Can they actually cut through solid steel?
Can they actually cut through solid steel?
Jason James
Connor Perry
No, that thing will break if it hits rock
Jose Smith
katana is used to cut flesh, not for mining metals
Asher Cooper
Jordan Fisher
Baka gaijin, gurorious nippon steel folded over a quadrillion time can cut through reality itself
Christian Reed
let's find out !
Kevin Jackson
Ryan Barnes
That's it. I'm sick of all this "Masterwork Bastard Sword" bullshit that's going on in the d20 system right now. Katanas deserve much better than that. Much, much better than that.
I should know what I'm talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine katana in Japan for 2,400,000 Yen (that's about $20,000) and have been practicing with it for almost 2 years now. I can even cut slabs of solid steel with my katana.
Japanese smiths spend years working on a single katana and fold it up to a million times to produce the finest blades known to mankind.
Katanas are thrice as sharp as European swords and thrice as hard for that matter too. Anything a longsword can cut through, a katana can cut through better. I'm pretty sure a katana could easily bisect a knight wearing full plate with a simple vertical slash.
Ever wonder why medieval Europe never bothered conquering Japan? That's right, they were too scared to fight the disciplined Samurai and their katanas of destruction. Even in World War II, American soldiers targeted the men with the katanas first because their killing power was feared and respected.
So what am I saying? Katanas are simply the best sword that the world has ever seen, and thus, require better stats in the d20 system. Here is the stat block I propose for Katanas:
(One-Handed Exotic Weapon)
1d12 Damage
19-20 x4 Crit
+2 to hit and damage
Counts as Masterwork
(Two-Handed Exotic Weapon)
2d10 Damage
17-20 x4 Crit
+5 to hit and damage
Counts as Masterwork
Now that seems a lot more representative of the cutting power of Katanas in real life, don't you think?
tl;dr = Katanas need to do more damage in d20, see my new stat block.
Daniel Gonzalez
>Initiate fight with katana
>Come out of it with a khukri
Gavin Martin
Do nips really swallow their own muh katana bullshit? I thought that was exclusively a western weeb thing.
Landon Wright
I bought a blunt katana from a pawn shop when I was like 7, what it lacks in strength it makes up for in elegance.
Aaron Walker
That katana is not really a great match for historical models. In any case both are made with modern steel, and thus far different from their historical counterparts.
Jayden Torres
Yes
Andrew Roberts
the real problem with the katana, other than the Japanese steel is shit, is that it is 2 handed sabre, you better pick a sabre instead
Xavier Russell
Why are wh*Tes obsessed with katana?
Andrew Reyes
Anime and martial arts movies, that's why, you don't see them obsesed with the jian
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Ayden Nelson
its just a two handed saber, only thing good about it is deflection due to leverage but it fails at basic saber qualities, speed and range.
Japanese were out of the loop on their island, just took turns running around with no pants and cutting down peasants or running from peasants with bamboo spears. 99% of the country's history.
Hudson Sullivan
It's a good looking blade for how inferior it realistically is. The saber almost looks like a western katana and is the most effective blade.
Jack Miller
Both swords were traditionally made by a smith who knows his shit.
Jace Morris
they can be cut by solid steel
Isaiah Baker
I like that one vid where they test a katana against a EVROPEAN sword, and it gets totally BTFO.
I love how butthurt delusional weebs and nips get from it.
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Owen Morris
no. katanas arent even particulary good swords. they are ok. late european swords were much higher quality due to having access to far superior steel.
a hint for that is how the japs adopted european style breastplates for a while before armour became obsolete.
also classic european long swords atleast have a proper fucking guard and a proper point. anti armour techniques such as halfswording and mordhau simply arent possible with a katana.
Josiah Powell
is that the famous chinese 苗刀?
Brayden Brown
Not just "style", they outright bought cuirasses wholesale from Spaniards and the like and incorporated them into "Japanese" suits of armor. Same with historical Indian swords - a bunch of them have German blades.
Carter Diaz
t. badass who studied the blade while others were having premarital sex
Isaac Hill
Hey! it is one of the few sword styles that people keep doing as sport and that's cool, you have fencing and the tai chi swords too but I think that's all
Joseph Ortiz
>Not just "style", they outright bought cuirasses wholesale from Spaniards
true but then the japs chimped out and isolated themselves from the west only allowing limited trade with the dutch.
Adrian Clark
Yes, I saw that in anime.
Levi Jackson
Weapons are cool. My favorite iron age, to replace the "medieval stereotype", weapon is the Bardiche.
Gavin Martin
You misunderstand. Modern reproductions are not the same as a historical sword. In terms of quality consistency and metal hardness modern smiths are light years ahead of anything produced during the arming swords heyday.
As for the katana it certainly a katana, but probably the weakest type of cross section in historical use.
And just so we are clear, even in historical models European swords often had more flex than a katana, meaning they were less likely to break. This is not about which sword is "better" but about that tests validity.
David Moore
Nigger the swordsman and smith in the video is Stefan Roth, he has spent years on historical reproductions and is a member of the NBTHK (Nihon Bijutsu Token Hozon Kyokai).
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Charles Carter
Send me back a couple hundred years and I'd slap every jap silly with my bare hands
Anthony Smith
If you noticed I didn't cast any aspersions on the smiths skills. The opposite, modern smiths and there equipment are often much better than in the past. If memory serves me, both sword in that test were made of modern steel.
As for my comments on the cross section I stand by them. Popular styles change over time, and the thicker cross sections are less popular today.
Landon Rodriguez
Benjamin Flores
> If memory serves me, both sword in that test were made of modern steel.
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They literally show him making the blade ffs, what more do you want?
Zachary Foster
BASED
Gabriel Flores
I don't want anything. I agree that Japanese swords were not better than European. I just think the test was stupid for a number of reasons.
I didn't call the katana inauthentic, though I did not know he used tamahagane, that certainly does not make it better. I simply pointed out it had a weaker style of cross section, and that modern smiths have access to knowledge and tools which make their swords, on average, better than historical pieces, so a test between two modern made swords does not tell us as much as most would assume.
Blake Rodriguez
>modern smiths have access to knowledge and tools which make their swords, on average, better than historical pieces, so a test between two modern made swords does not tell us as much as most would assume
Yeah but the whole point was to compare swords which were made as traditionally as possible. The only modern equipment he uses is an electrical fan for his furnace and an automatic hammer (sometimes).
Katana's being prone to chipping and bending was well known by the nips themselves, so if anything their test only stated the obvious.
Nicholas Martin
I said in my earlier post that European swords generally had more flex.
As for traditional, well that's a tricky thing. Katana are forged "traditionally" in Japan. That doesn't mean they are the same as something forged in 1590. The same is of course true for European blades.
Brody Sanchez
Yes. I was watching some samurai drama that its plot is like power rangers with my grandpa when I was 5
Jaxson Cruz
The katanas are fragile and break meme is becoming ridiculous, it was exported all accross asia due to its quality and never suffered any practical issue in its use ever.
Julian Parker
This is the only correct and smart post.
France BTFO every other retard ITT.
Ayden Ramirez
All swords suffered practical issues. but you're general point is on the mark.
Tyler Perez
Damascus steel >>> katana
There's a reason japs needed guns to invade china
Jacob Roberts
only if it's thin as paper
see minute 8:00 and
Jose Cook
another issue is that nintou are sabers
and you know, with any saber:
- only the tip and edge are useful
- don't sideslap
- just use them for ceremonial purposes. and charging against unarmored opponents
Austin Peterson
There only saber in the sense that any one edged sword is a saber. Their techniques tend to be quite different.
Adrian Sanders
>Damascus steel >>> katana
Literally any steel > katana
There's a reason it needed to be folded, Japanese metalworking was always inferior
Samuel Taylor
damascus was folded as well so that's moot
Isaac Nelson
No.
Isaac Ward
katana as a sword is like tae kwon do as a martial arts
both are just decent looking scams
Julian Reed
They folded swords in Europe too, in fact there were folded swords almost everywhere there were swords. It was one of a few common ways to deal with the fact most steel at that point in history was shitty.
Jace Watson
>historical Indian swords - a bunch of them have German blades
Fuck outta here, we have the best steel in The world
Levi Cook
the number of foreign made breast plates in Japanese armor is pretty small compared to the number of native made ones. Importation is after all expensive.