Be med school student

>be med school student
>graduate
>finish residence
>begin to make at least $5k a week

jesus it's better than I imagined
the 6 years of college plus residence will be paid off in less than a year lmao at any other meme degree

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Not sure if seeing sick people all day long for the rest of your life can ever been considered as a good situation.

play games all day, upload to youtube, make 20k a month, get rekt fag

Better than staring at a monitor and debugging pajeet code desu. And bitches love MDs.

who are you

It's nice if you can get into a school which isn't easy at all. Especially if you're of the male and white variety. You'd better be goddamned genius tier or you might as well go engineering.

>falling for the doctor meme
oh yes 8 years of work before actually working. then having a soul-sucking job for the rest of youth. then retiring right when your body begins to fail. should just enjoy life when youre young user

why is this shit even posted at biz?

>get accused of sexism for assuming all women have vaginas
>lose everything in a frivolous lawsuit
>have no other skills

I might've just scored myself a gig as Safety tech - Radiation Protection at a top tier nuclear plant. I get this and I'm set.

>mfw you get your first sepsis patient
LOL every physician I've met has fucking hated his life including myself. hope you work in Ortho OP because your life is going to be awful

Yeah. Guess why...
>$$$$

Don't go a day to college. Do $15k worth of certificates (helicopter rollover, confined spaces, rigging) make 8k a week after tax month on month off roster on offshore oil rig.
I know how you feel OP totally.

>beat yourself up for a decade
>negative net worth

lmao

you could've done a trade at 18, saved $50k/year for a downpayment on a house, bought a new house each year, started renting it out, and been retired at 28 instead of starting to get out of debt

collegecucks are eternally retarded

>spend the best years of your life in school

No thanks gramps

>muh 250k when I’m 40

Congrats user. Don't mind these salty neets. Good luck savin some lives.

Yes, he could done backbreaking home renovations, unclogged peoples toilets or installed AC in peoples houses but instead he's helping people what a fucking fag amirite?

>PhD Maths
>$300k starting salary

Get on my level, pleb

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I'll be making $500k in a few years, possibly a full mil in a decade, can you even get to this level?

this

>Paid off med school loans
>In less than a year

Nice LARP

Doctors are the ULTIMATE wagecucks. Unless you graduated from a top 10 school and have legacy connections, enjoy your 100 hour work weeks and burning out by 35

Are you from NJ?

Doctors are the third leading cause of death.

And that's being generous. We don't include the as-yet-unrecognized widespread malpractice like premature and excessively aggressive vaccination schedules in those stats.

As to your other point, there is no such thing as backbreaking work in USA anymore. OSHA regulated it all out. It is way harder on your body and health to pull an 18 hour medical shift than anything a tradesperson will ever do.

Collegefags, eternally cucked.

Status cucks are truly the worst. It’s a shame most women are status cucks as well, people who care more about a title than an actual lifestyle are the worst.

hows it feel starting life at 30+ with hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt?

sure, you might pay it off fast, but you'll never get back your youth.

seriously though, I have a few doctor friends and the happy one is a dermatologist working 8 hours a day for a shit ton of money, and none of the others are happy due to shit hours.

You're not making 5k a week starting out. unless you're a prodigy( you're not, you're on a malaysian rice counting forum) you're not making over 180k a year starting.

>be me
>actual physician, not larping OP
this is true. i'm an intensivist and every physician in my hospital is unhappy. probably a result of the patients we treat (indigent care), but it's an unfulfilling life. 2/10 would not recommend others take on this career

Imagine being in one of the most easily employable professions in the world and hating your job instead of finding a better one. If you find medicine unfulfilling why the fuck did you go into medicine and why are you still there?

I already am, pleb. I don't even need to check old men ass everyday

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>and excessively aggressive vaccination schedules

Paranoid retards should leave this thread

Because I fell for the status meme. The medical admissions system is not a well-thought one. It's incredulous to think that an 18 year old is wise enough to know they want to be a doctor at that age yet the system effectively requires it if you want to practice by the time you are 30. Most physicians are unhappy because they really didn't know what they wanted to do in life at the age they had to make the decision. I only practice medicine because I am too old to change careers and it would be unwise to give up the money now.

If he truly likes what he does his job won't be hard.

If you aren't automating tasks you will be wasting your life and your tasks will be consumed by automation.

Healthcare fucking sucks no matter how much you make. You have people's lives in your hands and it's complicated because they're too retarded to follow your advice. Have fun getting increasingly cucked by Medicare, Medicaid, and greedy PBMs.
>t., debt-free pharmacist pulling in $12k+ a month

Do doctors actually get paid this much starting out in the US or is OP larping?

I have a doctor family and here in the UK you’d be lucky to start out with more than £30k and most doctors never earn more than £100k.

Then factor in the insane residency hours and it doesn’t seem worth it at all.

Why are American doctors paid so much?

we do really need doctors, but the pharmaceutical complex is really fucked up and they write all the text books

Just work in a surgical setting, that shits the best

yes not only the excessive vaccinations and antibiotics, but also the liberal diagnosis of cancer and use of chemo among other practices

Avgn or Cinnemassacre now

I will bite though
prepare uranus OP
literally selling your 25-35s for shekels
80-120hr work weeks
free time nonexistent it equals sleep only
sued all the time
rekt by insurance
overwhelmed by hordes people mad at you because they or someone from their family is sick or even worse dying
you will be patient's bitch
you will be big pharma's bitch
nurse, chief resident, chief physician, professor...you name it, you will be the ultimate bitch
you will financially surpass your PA in 10-15 years, which will be your 50s
only he wont be the one responsible

MD is carrot on the stick wagecuckery
Medicine is interesting as a subject but you will hate it after 5 years of practice
Only way out is /comfy/ speciality, which I got, otherwise I'd kms long time ago.
Had some attempts during the residency don't even know how I made it through
never again/10

There are plenty of things you can do with an MD that don't involve practicing medicine that can make you plenty of money. I suggest you look into them before you become one of those cynical doctors that gives the profession a bad name if you aren't already.

For a good portion of us, myself included, it's not about the money, it's about a profession that is challenging, deeply personally rewarding, and allows us to help others. We would rather be fucking dead than work a desk-job or do a trade.

i've never been sued but it sounds horrible. you're full PP or in a PG?

lol bullshit. No mention of ridiculous hours, annoying as fuck patients, or shitty as fuck attendings constantly trying to run you into the ground.

lying faggot.

how long have you been practicing? you remind me of a 2nd year resident

>long hours
>on call
>poor work-life balance
>mentally coping with patients that suffer or die
>errors despite perfectionist mindset
Yeah, that sounds really comfy.

automate with technology. automate it once and it's done forever. Do it one by one and i guess you can stroke your own personal reward at the expense of what could be.

I'm coming to 'MURICA next year, and it will take me 5-7 years to make your healthcare about healthcare and not taxing population. One of the side effects of that change will be the normalizing of medic's wages to the median. Sorry!

This. Listening to pompous boomers all day, hard pass.

Orthopedic Surgeon here

After busting my ass for 16 years (36 year old boomer here), its pretty comfy considering I’m partnered with one other orthopod in a rural area in Commiefornia. We see alot of patients since the area is close to the Central Valley, so of course more revenue.

My weekly schedule:

Mon: Clinic
Tuesday: Surgery at Hospital #1
Wednesday: Clinic
Thursday: Surgery at Hospital #2
Friday: Add-on day (My partner at the practice has the OR and Clinic this day)

Weekends: Add-ons or I’m off. Plus I’m on call every other weekend.

Overall its pretty fucking cushy, and I make money by volume of patients I see, and since one of the clinics I work at is a public clinic, the hospital manages the overhead for that one. My private clinic I pay for.

Monthly depending on the patients I’ve seen I make close to $65,000.

So overall I’m comfy. And happy, and since I’m single I have my pick of the litter of qt nurses to pound on my downtime

Me neither but the threats are omnipresent
I work in the small hospital
Minorities come up recording you trying to catch you saying sth wrong.
Dumb fucks who don't follow the instructions and then try to sue you
That was residency though....luckily I found a hidden gem - working 50/50 outpatient / lab

To add finance wise, I move about $3-$5k into crypto a month.

And since houses are cheap in my area and I’m single, housing expenses aren’t much.

So if you’re willing to work your ass off, you’ll make it.

fucking Orthobro. made fun of you faggots in med school but you guys were right all along

ayo I have a friend thats on her 4th year out of 5 to become what youre doing there. Is it great?
Is that 65,000 really typical? its not like a oh yeah I made 65000 this month and the next month it was 7,000?
Just curious. that sounds wild. typically work 8 hour days too?

I just finished residency at the end of June. Planning on paying off all my loans then quitting medicine, for real. Would like to live in the forest or something off the grid.

OP is larping. Someone close to me just became a doctor a couple years ago. During residency they were only making about 55k-65k per year and their first year as doctor only bumped them up to between 80 and 100,i didn't get an exact number. But nowhere near what OP claims. Most long time doctors don't make that much, let alone when starting. Pediatricians and general practitioners tend to make the least at around 100-120k. Dermatologists and oncologists tend to make the most at perhaps 400-500k.

>work your ass off in school your whole life
>finally start to make money at 30
it's like a ticket straight to boomerdom

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Truth

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Its hard as fuck in terms of the USMLE and getting a spot, but If you sersiously want to be an orthopod another route is going gen surg for a year and doing a translateral shift to ortho.

Most ortho chairs like that considering you get a full year of gen surg before starting ortho.

Really depends on your area friendo. Rural areas= big $$$.

As they say, big fish only makes big splashes in small ponds rather than a big fish in a big pond. You have less competition on rural areas, and when you’re damn good at it most patients will travel to you since the wait times aren’t as long. My wait time from pre-op to surgery day is usually 1.5 months. I try to squeeze more patients in too since I have a great relationship with the Anesthesia Director, Charge Nurse, and Surgical Dept. Head (its usually a nurse surprisingly). Basically I end up getting more OR rooms and blocks so i can do more surgeries which is pretty damn fun.

Derm yes
Onc definitely not 400-500k, try 300 and medical oncology is hell on earth

Orthobro is correct on rural setting being a win
- more money, less expenses, less retarded bitter beta coworkers, less minorities

Yep. Tho my area has a fuck ton of beaners but its alright since alot of them are fatties which equals more joint problems.

Tip for any residents or med school fags, never burn bridges. Medical community is small and people will fuck you professionally if they don’t like you. And treat your surgical crew right and properly, don’t be an asshole. Their part of the team and if one fucks up the rest of the team fucks up.

>tfw Mon-Fri daystay surgical unit with no nights and no on-call

Sounds comfy as fuck.

My monday clinic at the public office is pretty comfy 8am-3pm and wednesday is 8am-1pm (private clinic, so less patients)

Here's my advice for anyone reading this thread thinking about medicine.

If you want to get into a profession for the money, medicine is not for you. If you want an easy, low stress job, medicine is not for you. If you're an anti-social NEET who hates interacting with people and doesn't see helping others as a worthy goal, medicine is not for you.

Go into medicine because you want a career where your job is literally to make people's lives better on a daily basis and get paid for it. It is hard, it is intellectually challenging, and there will always be something new to learn and ways to be better. It is tiring, exhausting, and emotionally difficult at times (especially depending on your specialty), but there is virtually no other profession like it in the world.

There are clearly some docs/larps in here who either got into medicine for the wrong reasons, or are unwilling to make the changes they need to be happier in their careers. Don't let them deter you. If you're in medicine for the people, you'll find it all worth it.

I'm a perioperative nurse, but I'm pretty fresh out of school so I'm lucky as hell I got to get into a specialty instead of going to a shitty med surg unit I would hate. We're set for 10 hour days but I've been pretty consistently getting to leave after 9 which is great

>making $500 a week
Fuck user stop it. Stop stop stop
>10x. TEN
OUCH I’m gonna need a doctor when my fucking heart explodes from this pain. Then you’ll make 11x my piddly wages
>waste your “best years” drinking and getting stoned, barely remember them anyway. Cringe at yourself
>hate the whole rest of your life
You have no fucking idea what’s coming do you

You guys are awesome. Alot of my perinurses keep the charts updated and clean which makes my life 10x easier with dictations at the end of the day.

This user is very correct. Gotta love going to the clinic and hospital everyday. Plus I get up early everyday to get Jow Forums and get sweet tang later on

what about orthodontics? Ortho sounds like none of those things. It sounds like something that is very low stress from everyone I've heard from.

Dentristy specifically orthodontics is pretty low stress from what i hear. Plus if you own your own practice you can make great money, and alot of it is cash-only since most insurances don’t cover braces and the like

>Orthodontics
That's dentistry friend.

To be fair there are some "low stress" specialties out there. Optho, derm, psych (if you run a comfy private practice) can all give you a great quality of life at the cost of $$$ if you choose

You could easily be a teacher or a researcher somewhere.