Where the hell is France?

>Vietnam War is a direct result of the First Indochina War
>Philipines, Australia, New Zealand, South Korea, and everyone else is involved in someway or another
>France is nowhere to be found
What the hell happened?

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Well? Why were we cleaning up your mess?

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>american historians

america wasn't cleaning anyone's mess, just asserting its interests
if rice farmers hadn't kicked your ass they would be a vassal state today

they surrendered even before the war started lel

>sweden
>same side as bunch of commies

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We literally killed over one million of them and we took in South Vietnam refugees.
Sweden hated the US during the Cold War.

>Sweden hated the US during the Cold War.
No we didn't.

It's good to be on the winning side

I thought Vietnam was the most pro-america country in asia

By this Germany won WW2.

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France didn't want to get involved. That's also why the peace deal was signed in Paris, that was the Paris accords.
Post-1945 France had to integrate many Communists in its government, who were opposed to the war. Public opinion was also very pro-commie. Going to war would have caused a whole lot of issues.

That being said, at my father's work, people came and offered money for volunteers. The equivalent of like 10k today. There were some French fighters.

>No we didn't
>The period between 1968 and 1976 also marked a cold period in the political relations between Sweden and the U.S., mainly due to the Swedish government's vocal opposition to the Vietnam War. In February 1968, the US recalled its Ambassador from Sweden after the Swedish Minister of Education and future prime minister Olof Palme, a Social Democrat, had participated in a protest in Stockholm against the war together with the North Vietnamese Ambassador to the Soviet Union Nguyen Tho Chan.[4] The post of US Ambassador to Sweden remained vacant until February 1970. In December 1972, Olof Palme (then Prime Minister) made a speech on Swedish national radio where he compared the ongoing US bombings of Hanoi to some of the worst atrocities committed by the Nazis. The US government called the comparison a "gross insult" and once again decided to freeze its diplomatic relations with Sweden (this time the freeze lasted for over a year).[4]
It was indecisive.
>Stating facts is bad
KYS, faggot.
Strange.

>South Vietnam collapses after rushed American retreat from Saigon
>Vietnam falls under communism
>indecisive
What

We pulled out, we didn't surrender. It was indecisive.

Retard

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>[The British Empire] pulled out, they didn't surrender. It was indecisive.

Withdrawing is not a surrender.
We beat them and took their land.

Please stop. A lot of people on both sides suffered. Most lopsided war/intervention.

The North Vietnamese took South Vietnam’s land too

Nope. Not until maybe the early 90s.

>We pulled out, we didn't surrender.
Too bad your dad didn't do the same

First of all, the stated period encompasses less than half the cold war. Secondly, and more pertinently, political relationships being frosty isn't necessarily representative of the overall relationship. Remember that foreign relationships are determined in no small part by otherwise unrelated domestic considerations.

>In an alternative present, Vietnam takes the war into USA mainland, supported by communist states.

Mmm that would be a nice movie plot.

>wHy wAsN't fRaNcE iNv0LvEd iN 0Ur sHitTy uSeLeSs wAr
Why are Americans like this?

you don't win wars by withdrawing
The US didn't fulfil it's objectives while your enemies fulfilled theirs, it's a defeat wherever you like it or not

>what is the Indochina war