Japan is the MOST authentic East Asian country

Japan is the MOST authentic East Asian country
>Still uses traditional seal stamps instead of Western signatures
>Still publishes books right-to-left and top-to-bottom unlike China and Korea
>Still culturally Buddhist and Shinto (most families belong to a particular sect and practice the traditions for funerals and such)
>Still has traditional East Asian coming of age ceremony at 20 (albeit missing some traditions such as receiving a courtesy name)
>Still bows like Asian style. (China does handshake)

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Did Japan bow towards the nuke?

>Japan is the MOST autistic East Asian country
yeah we know

rude

No one cares

No one cares

> stamp
sometimes ivory is used for this and westeners go mad for it
other example is better

Well, yeah
Sad thing is some Japanese are xenophobic and most of it's companies are ethnocentric

>took everything from China
>authentic

>a good burgerpost

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but it's true

I like ivory.

Would be worth it even if you weren't talking out of your arse.

Fax is essential to a variety of industries and professions in Western countries and it isn't especially inefficient.

Digital signing is not standard in the West so you need signatures on paper anyway.

Get a job.

True. Japan should rule over China.

what

If you look at map the Vietnamese homeland in Hanoi is pretty much East Asia.

Vietnam expended south later on

"East Asia" is a geographic designation not a cultural descriptor unless you're talking about the Sinosphere.

but it's true

>shamelessly copies china
>shamelessly copies europeans

>ayo we wuz traditional n shiet

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better question why america bows to anime ?

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it's not copycat Zhang

No it isn't. It's right next to Laos unless Laos is always East Asian now somehow.

That's France

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>Still uses traditional seal stamps instead of Western signatures

Wow you use a retarded system that is substantially easier to forge, amazing.

Stay in denial, Tanaka. It's true Japanese offices have some of the lowest efficiency in the rich world, and part of this is the relentless forms and stamping in their bloated paperwork.

Sauce: economist.com/asia/2019/03/21/are-japans-ubiquitous-personal-seals-endangered

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How would you forge a hanko? I think forging a signature is easier.

Also what you say makes literally even less sense as the Vietnamese first originated near the Red River Delta but China was literally thousands of kilometres in the north at the time and the two had literally nothing to do with each other. Vietnamese eat rice due to their Austroasiatic heritage and Austroasiatic people are believed to be the people who first domesticated rice. In fact they were eating rice long before "East Asians" were.

Yeah hanko is more secure.

And yet Japan is the East Asian country with the most Western loanwords and the most Western-style marriages.

>most families belong to a particular sect
Correct. If "most" means "25% of the population". The most popular 'sect' is Folk Shintoism.

>Would be worth it even if you weren't talking out of your arse.
Yeah, because "authenticity" sure is worth it when you have to pay 20% more for everything. You do realize there's a fucking reason Western countries don't use signet rings, right?

>muh efficiency
>muh profitability
Nobody cares, jew.

>oy vey, you'll have to pay shekels!
Materialist jew go

2chに帰れ、ネトウヨさん

>Still uses traditional seal stamps instead of Western signatures
not anymore since like a month ago

sure 56%

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>He says while posting on his computer and chowing on high fructose corn syrup ridden snacks
Why don't you support your local Amish community by only buying their products? Sure, they're of severely lower quality and ridden with insects due to the lack of pesticides and probably a lot more expensive than what you can get in the supermarket, but it's just so A U T H E N T I C.

That's the problem with you idiots. You whine about "materialist Jews" yet not a single fucking one is willing to put his money where his mouth is. Not a single one of you is taking action to pay significantly more for a "traditional" product.

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Wait what
Did they change laws

I swear (((Abe))) is a closet globalist

ironically, here in the land of materialist jews, there are insane tariffs on everything and we are forced to buy subpar local products at double the price because "muh national industry"

>I swear (((Abe))) is a closet globalist
English teacher detected?

Source? I'm not seeing anything. Though I suppose it's not surprising since they also decided to open the country to mass immigration a couple of months ago as well.

Holy shit it's the same here too. Made in Korea and Made in America are promoted here while made in Japan is ignored.

Japanese products are fucking amazing though, especially their food. I've never gotten sick after eating food imported from Japan, so I try to specifically search for Japanese imports when food shopping.

I'll add that it's hard as hell to find food imports from Japan. Sad.

*ahem*
Fuck chinkpan

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bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2019-03-08/japanese-banks-will-finally-stop-using-a-piece-of-1800s-technology?

We don't even have American products (or when we do, they are insanely expensive due to tariffs). it's not a political thing of not supporting enemy countries, but rather a protectionist thing.

The biggest problem is in agriculture, where the government (and the public) insists on keeping our failing farming industry alive, because of "muh zionist spirit", and blocks import of cheaper higher quality vegetables from Turkey and Spain.

Then the same retards who scream about buying only Blue and White cry about how high living expenses are here.

FUCK protectionism, FUCK socialism, and FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK unions

Oh that's just for wireless transfers.

Official and personal documents and company still use of course

A substantial part of low efficiency is emphasis on long hours over high productivity per hour.

Doctors, lawyers, and all sorts of other professionals in every country need to use fax on a routine basis.

You're an idiot.

Get a job.

I think almost all Japanese families are registered with their local temple or shrine or both.

>signet rings
I would absolutely have on made and use it if forms made it clear that it was acceptable in place of a written signature.

I already pay more for moral/social/political/quality reasons for all sorts of things so if the option is there I take it when I can.

>closet

>FUCK protectionism
disagree

>FUCK socialism, and FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK unions
agree
we need to bring back guilds instead of unions

same shit
globalism and capitalism is the only choice

>implying militant colonial imperialism isn't the only choice

Unions are fine as long as they're not directly supported by the government. A union should be nothing more than a collective bargaining institution. After all, if work contracts are based on bargaining then what's preventing either side from outsourcing the bargaining to a group of people who specializes in bargaining (for a fee, of course)?

Competitive private unions engage in regulatory capture and inevitably become poisonous. They need to either be banned outright with no exceptions, or else replaced by a state-controlled system of monitored mediation which the state oversees and uses to enforce policy as a third-party distinct from workers and businesses.

Guilds should be locally-focussed and geared towards development/improvement of professionals, tradesmen, craftsmen, etc. and need to be neutral between business and worker (indeed they would be most useful for relatively independent entrepreneurs and small partnerships, which are forms of economic activity that should be encouraged ahead of corporate-structured or multinational enterprises).

Literally gave you a source showing how the Japan's reliance on paperwork is crippling their businesses. Overuse of fax is part of it.

Get a job in the 21st century.

That's not the case here. There is a single union that can force workers to join it through special legal privileges that it keeps by controlling all the major parties, both left and right.

>Competitive private unions engage in regulatory capture and inevitably become poisonous.
Can you elaborate on that?

Yeah, unions in a lot of countries suck but to a large extent it's down to them having insane support from the state. The worst example is France: if your company has 50 or more workers then you're forced to have a union representative on board (even if literally nobody in your company is part of a union).

Unions get "support" from the state by infiltrating politics and creating a legislative environment that gives them special competitive privileges so that workers are pressured to join and alternative unions are not viable.

I'm not subscribing to The Ecommunist. Fuck off.

I see. While that's true, we see the same thing with companies. In fact, in the US (and almost certainly in other countries as well) big business benefits the most from high taxes because they can always "donate" to senators in order to get an exemption pushed through. The problem here isn't the existence of companies or unions, but the fact that politicians are receiving "donations" in the first place.

Every politician's finances (yes, that also includes the lowest representatives on a state level) should be made public the moment they take office so we can investigate if any of their decisions and votes coincide with "inexplicable increases" in their finances.

Here it's the "third law". If 1/3 of the employees of a workplace agree to unionize, all of the workers are forced to join the union and pay fees. Of course, this law only applies to the national union, and any sort of attempt made by workers to unionize outside of it is swiftly crushed.

This. Same with fucking this. The Korean government labels Made in Korean food so that people buy it instead, and even commercials are saying retarded stuff like "this is grown in Korea" yeah as if that has anything to do with the fucking quality of my food.

When I go to the grocery store to buy food, I am looking for fucking quality, not patriotism. I don't give two flying fucks if a Japanese farmer who descends from war criminals farmed my tomatoes, I want my tomatoes to not make me sick.

And cost of living is off the charts here as well. You can't even get a house, not even in the countryside, it's all apartments stacked either than Babel.

Fuck protectionism.

Fucking hell. Does that happen a lot? Or is the national union unpopular?

It does. I'm not sure about the private sector, but this union controls basically all of the public sector, which has inflated wages, open nepotism, inability to get fired, and a fetish for general strikes.

The general public in Israel is pretty socialist leaning, so the overall view of the nation union is positive (massive television and new-media ad campaigns help with that, too), but it's slowly going down. A recent streak of Italian strikes by the train subunion seems to have marked a turning point.

Very interesting video I watched recently.

youtu.be/hiAJyK0UqH0

Seals are still used here as well.
I’d guess also in many other Sinosphere countries.

fuck, our countries really are similar. We also have those dumb commercials, especially around independence day, reminding you to only buy Blue and White.

There are enough retarded patriots here that wouldn't mind paying double for local, just let me buy Spanish olive oil or Turkish tomatoes.

I like unions and striking but I hate protectionism. Striking needs to be done more often. Nobody should work more than 25 hours a week. It's slavery.

If you rely on imports and not only aren't self-sufficient but don't even have the capacity to be self-sufficient, what happens if, for instance, due to war or some disaster, your access to sources of goods of strategic importance or that are essential to daily life is suddenly cut off?

Maintaining a basic level of capacity in a variety of industries is absolutely key to national security and stability. It's not (just) about patriotism; it's about preventing your country (and therefore your own life and safety) from the threats posed by hostile foreign powers.

But even when we know whence politicians are getting their funding they don't behave well. The problem is that we have a political system wherein the people in a position to make decisions are necessarily (by the nature of the system) susceptible or beholden to that sort of influence. There are alternatives.

Also, in Australia's case, union meddling in policy has a lot more to do with them literally owning one of the major parties, such that pretty much all the noteworthy candidates have to have some background with the unions. There's not the same thing with business on the other side, by the way. It's a problem that precedes the funding issue.

Based Taiwan

Your Communist twin I'm pretty sure does not use

Vietnam abandoned it because of French

We also have military conscription. It used to be 3 years here too, before it got cut several times. Have no idea what it is now.

We also have the rule where you can delay military conscription until you are done with your studies. This creates a huge class of college kids who just keep going back for multiple degrees to push off the service until they are 35 when they don't have to serve at all. Then people who did serve can't find a job because people who get out of college have multiple degrees. They are now bankrupt and took out several loans to support their college lifestyle and work the rest of their lives to pay it off while unemployed military guys become NEET's living off their parents money who then take out more loans.

It's a fucking dystopian nightmare.

You are lucky to have such a problem.

In Australia, if I want to buy "Australian Made" or "Australian Owned", there are authorised labels for those, but I can't really be sure that the people making products in Australia are Australian or that the people owning companies in Australia are Australian - so what is the point of the labels? And that's ignoring foreign sourcing of components or technologies, as well as subsidiary relationships between businesses, that mean that my money is still almost certainly going where I don't want it to go - but the market is cornered and consumer information is deficient so I don't get a realistic choice.

Strikes in the private sector is fine. If you are a factory worker, and you feel that the owner is cheating your contract, then go on strike, it will only hurt him.
The thing is, in Israel the strikes are in the public sector, like public transport, electricity, the mail service, etc. And it's for the most entitled reasons ever. The recent train strikes were because train drivers were asked by the management to do 4 hour shifts instead of 3.5 hour shifts, and they get paid for 6 hour shifts anyways!

Then people who grow stuff in the country should make it high quality. They shouldn't be allowed to hold people hostage with that argument (what if war breaks out we are the only ones who can feed you).

They should make their food high quality and impeccable and also cheap and then I'll start buying. I would buy except that I have a sensitive stomach and everytime I buy local food I get sick. Rice grown locally is really high quality though.

I think you can be pretty sure that anything made in Australia is picked/processed/bagged whatever by grossly underpaid working holiday slaves from Asia LOL

>We also have the rule where you can delay military conscription until you are done with your studies.
We have something slightly different. You can delay your service to do a first degree, but then you are forced to serve 6 years as an officer when you return.

It just goes to show that mandatory conscription anywhere is awful.

Wait, were those striking train drivers the italian immigrants you mentioned earlier? Wtf????

4 hour shifts sound pretty reasonable for a public sector job to me.

Imagine being a young Japanese boy and the plots of Shin Chan episodes relating directly to your day to day life instead of being surreal. You are fortunate.

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Same here. All those "ture zionist tomatoes" were picked by flips and thais, but the israeli farmers still bitch about how they are the true patriot heroes defending the borders of the nation

they aren't italian immigrants, they are doing an Italian Strike, which means that all the workers just ditch work without declaring a strike. Here, all the train drivers in the country """""""somehow"""""" were all sick on the same day, so all trains were cancelled.

Asian working holidayers can come here only from Hong Kong, Japan, Korea, Taiwan and Finland. I know a lot of them do that sort of work but in a working holiday the holiday comes first. For the most part they are young people from relatively decent families who have enough money to make a loss or break even on their working holiday and are here on that basis.

The real problem is that we have very many foreigners with other types of visas or citizenship or who are here completely illegally who sneak around and won't necessarily stand out in official data, and there's no provision for telling consumers whether or not these types of people are involved anyway (though of course they are).

Here if you go as an officer you have to do 5 years. The enlisted people are crazy and bully each other, and the more educated officers try to stop them, but higher ranking enlisted people have the logic that "we were abused so we must perpetuate the abuse to others below us", or maybe it's just because they want to do it just because it's easier to make the lower ranking enlistees do all the hard work.

The worst part is, people who were anti-conscription when they got in, become pro-conscription when they get out, because they think "well I had to do it so everyone else does too".

Conscription and mandatory schooling are two cancers upon the civilized world.

I feel like I did my part in the army by redpilling every single person I could into being anti-conscription.

It's a drop in an ocean, but at least I tried

Maybe, but they're certainly not as cancerous as directionless, spineless, undisciplined, deviant long-hairs and hippies, which is exactly what you will get if you don't hammer the filth out of young people.

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Somehow, it's only people from countries with conscription that post this boomer shit

Countries without consctiption****

Nope. I'd rather have hippie homosexual dudeweedlmaos promoting interracial marriages and peace not war, at least they would put a stop to the rampant pollution going out of control.

People don't have to have a direction, or live to benefit the society. FUCK the society. FUCK the collective. I don't give a flying fuck about the advancement of man, or the triumph of the will of man. Am I going to space? No. Why the hell would I want to have state enforced discipline just so that the state can brag about sending astros to space?

Being undisciplined is a good thing. People act the way the act when they are born for a reason: it is natural. It is natural to want to eat meat and fruits and not broccoli or garlic or other poisonous filth. It is natural to want to walk without sandles or to not want to bow to people or stay up late or not treat the elderly with extra respect because they were wageslaves longer. It is natural to not want to go to school or work blah blah blah.

You might then argue that "s-s-society, muh CIVILIZATION can't exist without people paying Danegeld to the system and getting educated", well then to that I say, the problem then isn't childish behaviour (NATURAL behavior), the problem is civilization. Come on, are you really going to defend the hamster cage because savages don't live in cages and you are better than them because you run in a hamster wheel?

I tried doing the same, unfortunately Koreans are not the same as Israelis. Israelis are Caucasoids and therefore receptive to logic, Koreans just do whatever the state or the authorities tells them. If someone like me thinks differently they will go out of their way to fuck me over.

They are your ancestors Emliano. You wuz samurais.

We used to have conscription and things were great then. We need to bring it back.

You're the exact sort of person who needs his face smashed to a pulp by fellow conscripts, you filthy worm.