Finnland: 80% of men over 30 are childless

How does your cunt deal with demographics? We Germany focus on creating an amazing environment for immigrants and refugees from Arab and African countries

>FINLANDwill find in an entirely new demographic situation no matter the measures taken by the next government

>Finland has reported that the number of births fell...representing the continuation of a downward trend

>the decline has continued for so long that it can no longer be shrugged off as a statistical blip or even a temporary phenomenon.

>. “The change has went on for so long that no matter what we do now – even if everyone in their 30s started giving birth to triplets – we’d be in a new situation in terms of the demographic trend.”

>Finland has changed very rapidly over the past ten years
>“When a Finn turns 30, two-thirds of women and four-fifths of men are still childless,”
>same situation can be seen in a number of other economically advanced, wealthy countries.

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>uncharged demographic territory
wouldn't uncharted work better? like uncharted territory

Hah, asked myself the same. Though I regard the topic itself more interesting

Can't speak for the finns, but it was completely impossible for me to find a girlfriend/wife in Sweden since I'm not the social type, and don't have the Chaddish looks that internet dating requires. I guess more men have the same problem, plus the fact that there are plenty of distractions.

>an amazing environment
löl

It's the sames here's, and I'm glad desu. Fuck this gay earth.

Its time for the big incel uprising

>omg no replenished slave pool

Having kids is expensive. If the capitalists require fresh cannon fodder they should pay for it.
If no then the trend is perfectly compatible with urbanisation, consumerism, individualism and a shrinking and competitive labor market.

Yeah I'm the same. Nowadays German (and I guess northern women overall) are very much into very masculine aggressive man.

And black and Arabs immigrants, especially refugees from Africa, are exsctly that. They have crossed a whole ocean on their own to life and love free for fucks sake.

How are we white man supposed to compete with that? I'm a 26 year old kissless handholdless virgin, while several of my PoC friends are already getting married after having a great time with the girls in college. My best buddy is Nigerian. He fucked so many girls during college... We lived together in an apartment to save money

name one benefit to children besides menial labour

Kek ok Mohammad

things don't work here like they do in burkina-faso or whatever that is

>Having kids is expensive. If the capitalists require fresh cannon fodder they should pay for it.
This
Everyhing gets more expensive constantly but the wages haven't changed at all in well over a decade.

More people should read this book. He basically says parenting is more fun if you accept the idea that how a child turns out is overwhelmingly a result of nature, not nurture. So instead of wasting so much effort trying to mold your child, just relax and raise your child in a way that's fun for both of you.

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it doesn't
Leading tradcuck conservatards in my country believe giving wymen more free money and inlfating the already bubbling housing prices with government benefits is gonna help somehow, but of course it won't.
Literally the opposite is the truth, take away wymen's opportunities might be the only thing that raises birth rates.

>wages haven't changed at all in well over a decade
Rising minimum wage is retarded. Overall, wages have increased. Just not in shithole jobs

no they havent

The solution for men like you and me is to bury all thoughts of racial purity and take advantage of globalisation ourselves. By that I mean asian cuties.

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I just got a 9 cent raise so youre lying

You get fucked with taxes so hard here that the difference between shit and middle tier jobs is not that great.

Having kids would suck.

I’m never having kids.

>mfw the average age of white people in Europe is nearing 60
>Soon they'll be literally too old to reproduce, if they aren't already
Europe will be so "interesting" on this century. It's hilarious to see some 50 something incels bitch about "saving Europe" and go "muh heritage", "muh legacy", while having no "legacy" to pass to anyone themselves, after wasting away their lives looking at a computer screen in dark room for decades.

Why does it suck?

Based

> By that I mean becoming the gf
Fixed

Why would you want a screaming kid?

it's a non issue
the population of spain was 1/5th of what it is now a century ago
less than ten thousand people lived in finland at that time and we were all doing fine
don't let jews tell you it's the apocalypse and we need to dump niggers in the genepool or else.. (or else nothing the baby boom was a spike as the name implies)

Where do I find girls like that? I live in Cologne and most chicks here are (obviously) white and date Turks, blacks or Arabs.

Europs gene pool is very bad, we need immigrants to enrich it

Welcome to gynecocracy and hypergamy. What blows my mind is that since there are more people alive now than have ever died in the past, most men so far aren't reproducing.

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Wait what does the ratio mean? Can you explain?

I can give you the real, non-meme explanation of what's going on here.

Women generally do not want a man of lower social status than her. Combine this with the fact that more and more women are excelling in academics and getting good educations while many western boys struggle in school. All the women are now competing for the high tier men who are making at least as much money as them or more. And they have children with multiple women, while guys who are low on the social economic ladder becomes incels. They aren't having kids with Mohammed, they are having kids with Chad.

>afraid of loud noises
what are you? autistic?

Joscher

basado
I heard there's a pretty big Japanese community in Düsseldorf. It's not far away from you, so maybe you should try there.

It means tribes consisted of a Chad and his harem which incel betas weren't allowd to touch. It's how guanche society was organized (berbers stranded in the canary islands 2000 years ago who regressed to the stone age).

In primitive societies, betas didn't survive at all. Simply being alive and being able to take care of himself automatically made a man an alpha.

>German cuck

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If you were born as a man 8000 years ago, your chances to live long enough to have sex with a woman were 17 times lower than womans chance to do the same with man.

has a right idea. Basically "king" of group who owned everything, women included and then bunch of "slaves" who were only allowed to die at war.

Untrue. Slavery was a thing. And slavery was very popular.

>Where do I find girls like that?
Not to be too facetious, but... in Asia :^)

If you are white and have a job or at least some prospects (ie, you are not a neet), there's a girl for you in asia. South east asia is the best bet (you literally can't fail, the fail state is finding a 'bad girl', not failing to find a girl), but I've seen success stories from China as well if you are more into China. Korea/Japan probably has many of the same issues as the west at the moment, so I wouldn't try there unless you really want to.

Just make an account of an asian dating site and try it out, you'll be amazed at the interest you'll create (if you are white).

We're overpopulated, have the bigfest pension savings in the world per capita and our population is fairly stable.

*biggest

Our housing market and land can barely handle more people.

Damn. Guess I don't have to feel bad for being a virgin at 26 years even though I've got a fairly good job and cash in the bank

I'm just not supposed to breed. We whites had our time anyway. Now Africa is taking over Europe.

Yeah that's me...

There aren't enough Chads out there though

who gives a shit?
I'd rather suck cocks

Sorry, but SEA is filled with brown people. I watched porn from that region recently and their buttholes and pussies look really dark, almost black

I'm not racist, but that's just not my preference

You arent breeding because you dont want to, not because you cant. Women above 30 all around world are extremly desperate to find husband / father of her unborn children. Literally install facebook and see for yourself. Not to mention prostitution is legal in germany...

How many women have you asked on date this year?

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above 30 is way too old

>yes goy, date used up roasties
>leave under 20 year old girls to us!

I think most guys at the age of 30 dont care anymore
The magic of those young innocent relationships is no more
So tfwnogf is only really a thing until your 30s then it stops bothering you

I mean i am a 20 year old KHHV and of course its a big sour grapes that ill never have a girlfriend but this caused me way more anxiety as a teen than it does now, i can imagine in 10 years this will just be another chapter in my life

So what is the problem?

>being incel in this country
How fucking ugly and retarded are you? Literally just go outside

Don't base your opinions on thai porn filmed with prostitutes from the Isaan-region (the darkest skinned region), jesus christ.

I used 30 women as an example to point out the hypocrisy. You dont want "just sex" or "just relationship". You want probably both with super young super hot women (which is kinda hard work) while not willing to put in any effort whatsoever.

HOW MANY girls have you asked on date this year? Statistically woman will NEVER EVER approach you. And even if the miracle will happen, your lack of dating experience / confidence will make you miss the sign of it happening.

You literally need to go and start pursuing girls. At least ask for their phone numbers. Basically if they give it to you, its permission to ask them out.

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Not him, but I'd wager that Sweden is one of the hardest countries to get laid in, if you aren't a normalbög. Women here are 100% "liberated", meaning they are passed around the best, most outgoing, males until they are 30 and desperate.

Dude... who the fuck wants to settle for a used up old whore? That's beneath even incel dignity, it's literally better to be alone and jack off to VR-porn then.

>You want probably both with super young super hot women (which is kinda hard work) while not willing to put in any effort whatsoever.
Yeah? That's what I was promised as a child.

I'm a khhv even though i've been asked out twice by a cute girl. First when i was 15yo and second time at 23yo

The article said the men were likely alive.

>wh*teycuck fantasies
imminiggers are all tiny wh*te fags just like you. quite frankly, i doubt i could tell you apart from them

You've obviously never tried if you think so

>in this country
Wouldn't it be harder to get laid in Sweden of all countries, as the women are some of the most highly educated and wealthy on the planet? That's the general trend anyway, since women of all races and nations do not often "date down"

Im normally not bothered by being single, but these r9k threads never fail to rustle my jimmies.

Okay so how many girls have you asked out then?

Bullshit. Sweden girls prefer PoC men

Yeah but you can find cute and funny girls easily who don't have super high standards. I usually go for art hoes and it worked great so far.

Holy shit your posts are hard to read. Downlolad tinder and just meet a slut for fucks sake. There’s tons of them in Europe.

And Thai chicks run a gamut of colors. Some are really pale, some are basically brown. They mostly fuck well though.

Beggars can’t be choosers dude.

Based finngol adopting novel solutions.

Not a single one

>PoC men
Yes all girls want 170cm skinny fat poor brown NEETs. Europoor subhuman.

And now you know exactly what to do once you decide to grow up from incel life phase :-)

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Hm

Saw that coming. You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take dude.

Ive been thinking, in the past people would just resign to whatever they could find to mate, now things have been more complicated, trying to avoid responsabilities like babies and long term relationahips and people just wanna fuck. Thats my case for example, and in the most advamced countries thats the great majority of not only men but women. Women get pregnant by accidents not because they want it either. The onky reason theres more men than women childless its because we dont have the babies, girls do.

i prefer fucking my hand,
basically i dont even do jacking off much any more.
I've become enlightened, I do not desire 3d """women""" anymore.

I have many times, and have been shot down every single time. Face it, you are a normalbög

the 80/20 theory proved again lmao

i would miss 100% of the shots i took as well. i dont care about women. i dont have any need to f*ck them. i dont want kids or marriage. i only jack off 2-4 times a week. i used to do it 10-14 times. i am going to reduce it to 0 and be freed of lust.

Are you Japanese or not?

None
I’ve never asked a girl out because i am socially incompetent and have nothing to offer a woman
I realised since i have nothing to offer and i am genetic trash why bother
Just going to ride the neet life til i die

tinder is only usefull if youre a cute guy. if youre a average or less than average female, youre pretty much set for the SEX

my brother

Finland (and Germany and Japan and pretty much everyone else) needs to introduce the family policies that were used by the National Socialists to increase birth rates. Do it or perish.
Hungary is about to introduce some similar to them.

I volunteer to come to Finland and impregnate women with my incel cock .

God, scandis are such whinebabies.
You live in the most prosperous countries in the world yet you still complain that you have to go outside to get a girlfriend.

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Alright dude, do the ascetic thing then. Just seems like you’re complaining about unavailable/disinterested women.

No. I just live here.

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>You live in the most prosperous countries in the world

Sweden really isn't that. The economy is slow and our wages are low compared to the rest of the western world

>When a Finn turns 30, two-thirds of women and four-fifths of men are still childless
>two-thirds of women and four-fifths of men
Confirming alpha fucks beta bucks.

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Betas can just go NEET in Finland so more like Alpha fucks and bucks

I’m not that good looking, but somehow I had plenty of success before and after tinder became a thing. Frankly it’s the most convenient system for banging sluts ever devised unless you count Viking/mongol slave raids.

>We Germany focus on creating an amazing environment for immigrants and refugees from Arab and African countries

This will end up being the biggest mistake Germany has ever made.

im not complaining, im just saying that a single woman over 30 is totally useless

you are too stupid to understand
it is so easy for you, you live with your mother until you are 30 and you have strong family bonds, what do you ever have to worry about?
For us nothing matters at all except looks.
Money? Doesn't matter unless you're a millionaire.
Humor? Doesn't matter because no one here has it.
Being a good person? Doesn't matter because everyone is decent here but no one really cares.

men also settle down later than women

I knew it. Stop giving us tips. You are a Chad

Our wages are pretty good. Don't tell me you're not only a pathetic virgin, but also a NEET?

i dont want to have sex with w*men!!!

I'll never understand the rationale

>the population is shrinking, leading to the economy slowing down... so let's import mass amounts of unskilled labor from the least skilled and educated populations in the world!

There must be a sinister motive behind this, nobody can devise a plan with such obvious flaws believing that they are doing good. Literally the only possible outcome is that the host nation turns into a nation more similar to that from which the immigrants came, ie a shitty nation. Unless they seriously believe that genetics and IQ isn't a thing.

>Our wages are pretty good

No they aren't. Our wages are low compared to the rest of the developed world, AND we have a higher tax pressure.

If you live in Stockholm or Gothenburg you're looking at some pretty great wages

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Is it justified then that Stockholm, an irrelevant non-business center capital of 2 million have the same living expenses as London or Paris?
No its not
It averages out to your average big city urbanite in sweden is piss poor

We don't have nearly the same living expenses as London or Paris. You're talking out of your ass here.

Jag bor i cuckholm, en etta eller tvåa 45-60 minuter ut från centrum ligger på drygt 1,5-2 miljoner kronor
För varje 10 minuter närmare centrum du kommer kan du lägga på 100-200k på kostnad
En tvåa inne i stockholm city går lätt på 10-12 miljoner

QOL is much better in Stockholm than in Paris.