Regions of europe final version, central europe is just myth by butthurt polacks

hail euro core

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I can see how some lunatic might consider Bohemia to be a part of core Europe but Moravia would never qualify in such even in the wild dreams of pepik schizo.

>European core
Being Helmut's cuckold for most of your history doesn't make you a "European core region" Jan.

Ohh fine then. I’ve seen only asians typing this symbol in the end of text

Good map tbqh senpai.

Fucking plebs, this is the true version

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>Turkey chaotic evil
>Switzerland true neutral
>Russia chaotic good
oddly fitting.

Catholics and Protestants aren't Eastern that's for sure.

They managed to become Capital of the HRE and a Czech made it to Emperor, so there is that. Also they never got Turked, which helps massively with work ethics.

>Charlemagne
>Holy Roman Empire
>German imigration under Habsburgs
I would say they're western

>not civilized at one point in history means not European
Well I guess that Gaul and Germania aren't Europen. Source: Julius Caesar

>scotland
> lawful anything
No

All of the "Bohemian" HRE Emperor were from the House of Luxembourg, they were from a German noble house and spoke a Germanic language.
I answer with this

>they were from a German noble house and spoke a Germanic language.
>Wenceslaus, later Karel, born in Prague
Sure, 100% German, Czechs are poor little Slav victims and totally not part of core Europe, despite all history telling the opposite.

> He was a member of the House of Luxembourg from his father's side and the Czech House of Přemyslid from his mother's side; he emphasized the latter due to his lifelong affinity for the Czech side of his inheritance
Literally a Helmut wewuzing as a Czech, lmao

>Montenegro and Albania considered eastern
>Coratia counted as mediterranean

Bad map bad thread

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Swim back to Tallinn, eesti

agreed that central europe does not exist but tbqh we are eastern europe implying otherwise just makes us look pretty butthurt and pathetic

>house of luxembourg
>german
for me, it's tsar Vasili IV being swedish because the rurikids were originally viking dynasty

>tfw live directly on the european core boundary line

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>Estonia
>Core

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> Originally a German noble house
> Even after setting up house in Bohemia they keep intermarrying with German noble houses and remain part of a Germanic polity
> Encourage German immigration to try and outbreed the Slavs
> Use Latin and German more than Czech
I don't know Jan, the verdict seems pretty clear.

>Estonia is Eastern and core Europe
Huh?

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Why are slavoids and ex-commies always seething in these threads?

>german father, czech mother, spent most of chis childhood and early adulthood at french court, being educated in latin by monks
I am not claiming that Karel IV was czech nationalist, I am just saying that claiming he was german is just as retared, especially considering there was no such thing as idea of german nation and if there was the highest ranking nobility almost certainly did not consider themselves to be part of it.

Based and Frankpilled

Because people say they aren't europe
If someone said Greece isn't europe , you would be mad

>german nation
Well, yeah, it's obvious that such a thing as "national identity" and "patriotism" were non-existent 700 years ago, noblemen were just looking out for themselves and their own houses.

But acknowledging that the HRE was a Germanic polity is not that much of a leap in logic.

Czech is HRE, Romania is Eastern Europe. Deal with it.

Western Europe = France, Benelux, UK and Ireland. That's it.

>Czech is HRE, Romania is Eastern Europe. Deal with it.
Your statement is perfectly coherent and I fully agree with it, you just forgot to write that Czechia AND Romania are Eastern Europe, a minor typo, I wouldn't sweat it, Swissbro, we all make mistakes.

>Because people say they aren't europe
Nah, nobody says that. It's all about the Russians. If they for some reason were considered Asian, then I'm sure their cousins to the West would be totally fine with the Eastern Euro label

should I read this book?

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United Kingdom+Ireland are not western. Great Britain is though

This is the textbook it came from

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I honestly dont know what point are you trying to make? I mean I personally believe that we are eastern european due to iron curtain being the dividing line, however what is your logic behind it or more specificely what the fuck does HRE have to do with anything?
Are you implying that kingdom of bohemia is not part of our cultural history or what?

No, my two points are:

1. If Poland is considered Eastern European then so should be Czechia, both countries are very similar and have gone through similar historical circumstances (I am personally more in favor of considering them as part of a Central Europe region, however)
2. The map's consideration of Czechia as part of the European core doesn't make sense.

Is the cover a bunch of pakis and afghans on their way to cross the Aegean?
That's fucking hilarious.

>both countries are very similar and have gone through similar historical circumstances

>let me tell you about your continent
Go away, miguel

>both countries are very similar and have gone through similar historical circumstances
This is simply not true, atleast it has not been until 1918 - or even 1948. And while past century has been extremely formative from the political and economical standpoint, the historical development for thousand years before that was VERY different.

meant for As I said, I agree that we are eastern european for economic and political reasons - cold war that is - however in broad cultural and historical sense (if you factor in pre-cold war history) we are much closer to Austria than to Poland. The thing is, past century has been so extremely important and formative that the differences resulting from the cold war are much more important than history or culture.

Your languages are as close to each other as ours is to Dutch, if not more. You have pretty much same architecture, cuisine, economies, genetics... too
Only thing that differentiates you nowadays is level of religiosity

> Both West Slavic languages
> Both historically Catholic
> The Jagyellon monarchs managed to very briefly unify both countries
> Both of them have historically had a lot of interaction with the different German polities and barely avoid being swallowed up by the Drang Nach Osten
> Neighbors and located in roughly the same geographic region
> Both fell behind the Iron Curtain and after its fall successfully managed to become modern democracies with quickly growing economies and joined the EU
I don't know Jan, your argument seems weak.
Mis ancestros :)) were from Spain, therefore I am white, therefore European, it's my continent too Helmut, :')

>Language
Yeah that's about it. However so do Russians and Slovenes but you would not imply they are essentially the same.

>Architecture
Broadly central european in like with cities of Austria, southern Germany or Hungary. Not to mention that if you look at authenticaly polish cities in eastern poland you will see the difference.

>Cuisine
Again, ours is much more in line with say Austria. Just look at schnitzel or appel strudel and plenty others that are not closely associated with typical polish cuisine but are with czech.

>economies
Result of cold war, and as I said economical state and political culture are both results of the iron curtain split - not previous historical and cultural development.

>historically catholic
jesus christ mate
>literally what are hussites, bohemian rebellion of 1618 and like 400 years of czech protestant struggle against the catholic habsburgs

>Jagiellons
For a total of what 50 years?
We spent way more timethan that within HRE.

>Interaction with German polities
What a nice way to phrase it. Yes its true, we both interacted with german polities. In a way that both Nigerians and Americans were at one point ruled by Britain but you wouldnt imply they are the same. Poland was always outside of HRE and western european cultural sphere - we were always within. Even when parts of Poland were gobbled by Austria and Germany, the core was still outside of that sphere.

>Iron Curtain
Yeah, as I said multiple times already, that is the point where our and polish history becomes similar. But before that (or arguably before 1918 in a way) it was completely different.

retarded snownigger fantasy map, heres the real one

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And to avoid any confusion - I am not saying we are not eastern european. We are, there is no doubt about it. However this division is result of the past 70 or so years and it has nothing to do with grander previous historical or cultural development, which was VERY different between individual eastern european countries.

>macedonia
>eastern europe
how do you explain this, dumbo?

balkan

this
>the homeland of Aleksandar Makedonski and the craddle of civilisation is clumped together with bunch of slavs and eastern yuros
disgusting
the empire of fyrom shall rise again

balkan is white and western though, unlike eastern europoors

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>7 centures under roman rule
>3 centures under byzantine rule
>5 centures under ottoman rule
>50 years under communism
>just clump it with russia senpai it's basically the same thing
amerilard tier brainletism

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>50 years under communism
that is kind of the most important factor tho m9
Eastern Europe is by definition former communist countries. Most of the defining traits of "eastern europe" such as poverty, conservative and nationalist leaning political views,tendency for strongman politics etc. are results of those 50 years of communism. Obviously czechs, slovenes or hungarians are culturally closer to Hungarians than to russians, but that is quite frankly irrelevant in the context of west-east europe divide.

To be fair, Scandinavia is pretty gay.
t. Hans von Knedlik

>Estonia

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How much I love you dear Pepik but this thread is void if someone calls us central/core/east or whatever Europe, because we are not Slavs/Europeans, we are Sarmatians.

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>Eastern Europe is by definition former communist countries
By what definition? There is not a agreed concept on what eastern europe is. The UN has a different definition, CIA has a different one, if we go by geography or culture, there will be a wholly different one.
You know that the cold war is over and that there isn't an iron curtain that separates these countries now (on which this model of division was probably based).
And, would it make sense for formerly communist countries to call all capitalist countries west of them "western europe"? No.
Going by definitions made by americans who can't even pinpoint european countries on a map, let alone know anything about them is retarded

>estonia
>core

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The only true core of europe

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seething polish diaspora

How the fuck is it not?

there's no difference between northern europe and western europe you stupid czech faggot

that's why we use the term northwestern european

Obligatory ignorant mutt. Thank's for checking in, your work is done.

Why, yes, I'm an East European. How could you tell?

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Because it definitely looks and feels as part of eastern europe and is geographically located there, right?

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Yes?

czechs have heavy germanic admixture. this has been proven scientifically.

they are slav-germanic mutts

mosques aint helping

Green stuff = Eastern
Yellow/Orange and Purple = Western
Anything else is retarded

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Gained from who? Germans? That are only 10% Germanic?

>The population of the Czech lands has been influenced by different human migrations that wide-crossed Europe over time. In their Y-DNA haplogroups, which are inherited along the male line, Czechs have shown a mix of Eastern and Western European traits. According to a 2007 study, 34.2% of Czech males belong to R1a. Within the Czech Republic, the proportion of R1a seems to gradually increase from west to east [23] According to a 2000 study, 35.6% of Czech males have haplogroup R1b, which is very common in Western Europe among Germanic and Celtic nations, but rare among Slavic nations.[24] A mtDNA study of 179 individuals from Western Bohemia showed that 3% had East Eurasian lineages that perhaps entered the gene pool through admixture with Central Asian nomadic tribes in the early Middle Ages.[25] A group of scientists suggested that the high frequency of a gene mutation causing cystic fibrosis in Central European (including Czech R.) and Celtic populations supports the theory of some Celtic ancestry among the Czech population.[26]

Haplogroups mean shit about ethnicity and admixture. R1b in Czechs and Poles is popular since Unetice Culture/Bell Beakers. Who gives a shit about Germans that are younger than both Poles and Czechs lmao.

Germs can be qualified as: 60% Celtic, 30% Slavic, 10% Scandinavian(Nordic).

>failing to notice the oriental influence

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>steal everything from the mediterranean otherwise you'd be on the same level as africans
>larp mediterranean aren't core europe even though all your claims of superiority rely on stealing their history and saying yours
is there any wonder why europe is failing? it never stood a chance to begin with. it's clearly a fluke the situation developed as it did

If you have to go back that far, then you're not 100% "pure"™ either, you're also mutts of Proto Slavs, Fenno-Balts and Goths

why is the inclusion of czehia into core europe so controversial?
as a true central CORE EVROPEAN BVLL I say they are worthy of it. End of discussion you new world cunts

Goths were Scandinavian, you Alpinid nigger.

its from american textbook

You know it's true

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trusting america on history is even worse than trusting a black guy off the street with your wallet. america does nothing except steal. it especially loves to steal history when it's not stealing dna.

No.

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Seething mongrel.

>A group of scientists suggested that the high frequency of a gene mutation causing cystic fibrosis in Central European (including Czech R.) and Celtic populations supports the theory of some Celtic ancestry among the Czech population.[26
We wuz druids n shieiit
Alba gu brah
Tiocfaidh ar la

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We're not europe

make germany, austria and switzerland "western europe" and it is

We want nothing to do with r*ssia stop posting this you braindead faggot