I read somewhere that the food sold in Chinese restaurants in America isn't really authentic Chinese food but just an...

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Yeah if the owner speaks Italian it might be good. Always depends on how much you spend.. if a mozzarella costs hell too much, it's probably good. It's true it depends on certain categories, but in general food are adapted.. Indian in Italy is way less hot, Japanese is always sushi and owned by Chinese, and Italian abroad is overcooked and just wrong. Exceptions are in big cities, of course in London or NY you can find hundreds of Italian real places

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you have shit taste

which is the best affordable authentic italian dish?

As an ABC, I slightly prefer American Chinese food over authentic Chinese food but it might be because my mom isn't a good cook. I didn't really see anything particularly gross growing up. I've seen my mom eat stuff like chicken feet at dim sum places but she never serves that stuff to me.

It’s because Chinese “food” is for peasants. First worlders wouldn’t eat “authentic” Chinese “food”

In which country? I think a good carbonara in US would cost something like 20$ minimum. It is always a matter of products, if you need pecorino and guanciale it's going to be expensive to have those. Probably if you could find a real gelato that's the cheapest Italian thing

Here's your donkey barbecue restaurant bro. The guy next door also has deep fried scorpions on a stick.

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Don’t forget the rat meat soup

Pretty much, Chinese food is actually pretty different in the UK to what it is in the US
It's also very different to Chinese food in China

Chicken feet are a bit hit and miss
They can be really nice but the little bones are annoying as fuck to deal with

Didn't get to see that one. Ate pigeon dumplings with soup but we also breed pigeons for meat here. There are also normal dishes like Chongqing spicy chicken.

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You also don’t live in a first world country

Neither do you.

Dude. Chinese restaurants in America are way too fucking sweet. Go get yourself a nice fob chinese gf and have her cook

brown hands in in glass houses should throw stones

I guess this is an example of a more authentic Chinese restaurant in America.

youtu.be/6cRUvq2irao

Lol, ABCs are hilarious to me. They're like these weird little insectoid people who are pretending to be Americans

By the way people in mainland china hate you as much as we do. Maybe move to Canada?

>Fettuccine Alfredo does not exist
then what is this?

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He means it’s not Italian

Chinese here is a mix of indonesian(muh immigrants)/Vietnamese food made for the european stomach. It's good.

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THEN HE SHOULD HAVE SAID IT'S NOT AN ITALIAN FOOD, NOT THAT IT DOESN'T EXIST. LOOK AT THIS AND TELL ME IT DOESN'T EXIST GODDAMMIT.

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Yum!

The Xinjiang barbecue in China is also very good. youtube.com/watch?v=2-V0i6LLksk

Worst advice. She's gonna cook the same 3 fuckin oily dishes her mom taught her to get a white man.

Just go to China. Use their women , use their slave rate labor, and eat some of their dishes. Then leave

No need to ruin your life over some food

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>Traditional jap food is just seafood and a lot of gross pickled shit that eventually gives you stomach cancer
there are some foods you fatass likes either

I want to try Chinese hot pot.

youtu.be/TSYOW-2eg2k

One of my friends is dating a Chinese girl who is here on a student visa. They are renting an apartment together. Their house smells like oil and it’s dirty af. I’ve ate dinner with them before and she is not sanitary.

Why would I move? I'm doing well for myself.

A lot of Chinese/Asian stores have soup bases you can use. I never tried them since who the hell knows what's inside them and I'd just rather go to a decent Chinese restaurant and eat it there.

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Hotpot is fucking fantastic, I'd eat it all the time in China because it would only be like £5 per person, whereas it's like £20+ per person here
This, I found Chinese homecooked food vastly different to restaurant food. I certainly appreciated it when my hosts cooked but there was such a wide variety of food I could get elsewhere. I don't think my host was necessarily a bad cook though.
Lee Kum Kee stuff is good quality desu, probably the best mass produced easily accessible Chinese food

I feel the same way about germanic/irish/italian (basically all non-anglo) "americans."

It was the first to show up on google. LKK is quite good but I'm not so sure about the other mainland stuff like Kang Shi Fu. Maybe products exported to Europe aren't as shady as the stuff they use in China.

It doesn't exist in Italian cousine. And that's what you call it, Italian.

Chinese food >>>>>> Japanese food

in most parts of earth dogs meat no so popular among population

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Because you're just some weird version of an American. If you have kids theyre going to resent you for bringing them into such a fucked up situation. I think Canada is a good place for ABCs and hapas

If you're living in US and claim some origin other than having two white parents in a rural / suburban Midwest town you're probably fucked up.

They don't eat dog that much to be honest. Young people are against it. The dog-eating festival they held every year went from 10000-15000 dogs in 10 days in the 2000's to 1500 dogs in 10 days in 2015.

>No need to ruin your life over some food

>Just go to China.

Life ruined

No thanks. The tech salaries suck in Canada.

Food in china is like wontons n shi

>Brit talking about food

Self reflection capacities = 0

Chinese fucking love chili peppers. I wouldn’t consider authentic unless it has at least a chili pepper sauce on it.

Authentic Chinese food is poverty version of western Chinese food

Brainlets
Watch "A Bite of China" if you actually wanna see what different regional Chinese foods are like. Fantastic TV series with a fuckhuge state sponsored budget.
youtu.be/8C2rizBCHtI

>chili pepper sauce
they don't eat chilli pepper sauce
they'll eat chilli oil but it depends on what part of the country you're in
out west in Sichuan they eat everything with chilli oil and chillis, but in other parts o the country it doesn't appear nearly as much in other cuisines

Here they only serve something called "arroz chino" (Chinese rice)
This may be right.

I thought they were all about the peanut sauce and peanut oil

again depend on the region
chilli oil is used more as a condiment and as a something food is served in whereas peanut oil is used like vegetable oil is in the west for cooking
peanut sauce is again a condiment or something food is served in though I saw more sesame sauce than peanut sauce

Lol, ABC who's nong parents steered him into getting a software degree. Now he's barely breaking into 6 figures driving his consumer grade luxury Sudan while saving up for some unattainable housing on the west cost. What a success story.

Thanks for the link, going to marathon the shit out of it

It's best if you watch it with the original Chinese narration and english subs. They got a bunch of retarded sounding Russians to do the dubbing.

That's my plan, thanks

my gf told me that china has some program to train people to make american chinese food so they will come here and open restaurants, and that that's the reason why they all serve the same menu

ABCs will pretend otherwise but commonplace Chinese food is not really that different to what's sold in Chinese restaurants.
The two major things that come to mind are a) the lack of forks and b) the much bigger reliance on rice steamers.

Italian niggas be like
>oha yes, i cutta the pasta ina different shape another successful dish i havea created!

nytimes.com/1990/10/28/weekinreview/the-region-a-traditionally-insular-community-begins-to-reach-out.html

this article touched on the aspect of how Chinese immigrants, brought from China in shipping crates from 1970s-1990s, would live under direct governance from the Chinese authority in the US (mafia)
this is how the Chinese came to open up restaurants and dry cleaners w/o having any $$ or experience, thru the help of a very well connected mafia. the mafia would then collect fees from the "franchises"

what is so strange about chinese restaurants is that they are all pretty much the same:
same menu
same taste
same format/design
almost like an unofficial franchise that spreads throughout the planet. all the restaurants may have different names, but that is the only difference.

Chinese food pretty much all source their shit from the same mafia distributor, its a chinese food service that sells bulk frozen shit that is meant to be boiled / fried then doused in the accompanying packets of sauces.

There's too many Chinese restaurants

When was the last time they actually made good food? Ever? Even In the smallest of towns there's 10 Chinese food restaurants scrunched in. I have nothing to gain by walking on your dirty ass floors, you bring no value, and your only form of communication is a nod and a syllable or screaming in Chinese like you have some kind of right to do that to my great people! You don't.

This is true for everywhere. You can go to a tiny little town and they will have a Chinese. Even in eastern Europe. Like how and why do a group of Chinese decide to set up a restaurant in all these little places?

Since the 70s, there has been a major illegal Chinese imigration to the US, specifically destined to work in Chinese restaurants in NYC and California. Many of the Chinese restaurant menus in the U.S. are printed in Chinatown, Manhattan

scholarsstrategynetwork.org/brief/untold-story-chinese-restaurants-america

every resturant gets its supplies from the same place.

Chinese use the border too, there's a black market in Manhattan that employs them in Chinese restaurants all over the US.

couldnt agree more

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t. self hating Zhang

>bite of china
Nice production quality. I enjoyed it, but it is a bit misleading.
youtu.be/5jcCIUeY7lw?t=674
(11:24-13:15) Basically, in the episode where they feature tofu, the tofu is made with pollution water.

One of the Chinese buffets in my town got to the point where they start serving refried beans because they had a lot of Puerto Ricans as customers.

That probably explains why Japan has a really high rate of strokes.

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They're are all over CA at least. They all look and taste the same with some sort of name like "China Chef" or "Golden Lantern."

They have they same place mats that show your b-day animal sign. They serve the same crappy, greasy, slimy Chinese food that looks like it all came from the same place.

Egg rolls = exactly the same Sweat and sour (anything) = Same same same Orange chicken = Orange syrup covered pre-cooked chicken shit nuggets.

So how are you doing for yourself user? Are you one of the welders in my factory who is 'oh so proud' of their 25$/hr and disposable skill set?

If Chinese takeouts were a franchise they would be the largest franchise in America. There are more than 40,000 Chinese takeout restaurants, which is almost three times more than McDonalds' 15,000. They take little space if needed and are versatile where they fit. They're perfect for low rent areas. The purpose of them looking cheap and the same is that you know exactly what you're getting - a greasy meal for under $10. This is critical to their business, because they want you to know that they've got fortune cookies, egg rolls, and fried chicken over rice even if none of these are actually Chinese.

Yes, there is a Chinese restaurant starter kit. If you visit a lot of the Asian supply stores for these takeouts, they have the same variation of materials over and over again. The supply stores literally have all the materials a Chinese restaurant needs because they're so ubiquitous. Essentially a Chinese takeout is one of the cheapest 'franchises' to start and run. Even the meat and food is sourced from the same companies. In NYC, the Flushing area and Chinatown areas have supply stores that offer everything a Chinese takeout needs to run from signs to menu photos. So everything is premade and basically standardized. They even have premade menu layouts too. This also makes hiring easy because the same migrant workers have been cooking the same thing, everywhere. There's even a sub-industry of products made specifically for the Chinese takeout industry. Imagine trying to sell a food invention you made to McDonalds to its 15,000 branches and the years it takes to roll out. Or you can target 40,000 Chinese takeouts and start selling now. For example, oyster pails are not found in Asia but you'll see them all over America. There are companies that make money doing nothing but selling oyster pails with 'Chinese style' takeaway prints on them.

Chinese takeouts stand forever because they're often resold at dirt-cheap prices. As little as $50,000 will get you an existing takeout and the staff typically make around $1,300-$2,500 a month. This makes it incredibly easy to maintain many of them, and quick to offload to someone else if you need to move on. They all have similar layouts because Chinese carpenters and workers know how to set up a Chinese takeout efficiently. Even the sign names are the same because the sign stores have premade Chinese takeout signs. Hence why there are so many "Great Wall, Spring Garden, Panda-whatever, China-this, Lantern-that and Golden what-have-you". When a new owner comes in, they don't bother changing much, if anything. However if the restaurant is found with some health code violation for the above reasons, a change of ownership is easy too, even on paper.

>Japanese is always sushi and owned by Chinese
This is not even the same phenomenon as a good-faith but poor local interpretation or an attempt to adapt to local taste.

This is is just Chinese (and Koreans do it too, and Malaysians) trying to cash in on Japan's reputation for good quality to make a quick buck. Most Japanese would be ashamed to serve shit food and call it Japanese.

It's essentially a fraudulent business practice because they are trading in Japanese reputation and tricking customers who can't tell easily that these people are not Japanese.

The history of Chinese restaurants in the US is really interesting. And there is strong hint that they are centrally organized and serve as vehicles for human trafficking. "Need a new cook? These people paid us to come to the US and sling your greasy Colonel Tso's Chicken and rice for a chance at the American Dream. As long as your menu is basic, they can start tomorrow."

Chicken feet are good.

t. yum cha knower

The overhead for Chinese restaurants are very low. A lot of the materials involved are ordered in large amounts and are cross-useful for multiple dishes and are very very cheap. If they want to make a little more profit, it's possible to hand-make a lot of American Chinese Takeout food instead of getting them ready from suppliers such as dumplings or pot stickers which are high profit items.

This is all true as far as I learned from Chinese friends working in the industry. I would add a few interesting meta-issues around the franchise model. Most of the early Chinese restaurants in the US and Canada came from the same area of China (Fujian and Guangdong). The stereotype is that these businessmen were uncreative and hard working. They set up the restaurants according to the franchise model this guy describes, and then they got their work staff from subsequent generations of lower/middle class Chinese immigrants looking for starter jobs. Places like New York and San Francisco have human resource agencies which specialize in moving the immigrant Chinese labor force to one horse town Chinese restaurants around the country, which includes transportation, training, and dorm services, all without having to learn English.

But the traditional suburban takeout Chinese restaurant isn't doing as well as it once did because there aren't as many working class Chinese immigrants anymore and they appeal mostly to boomers. There is a new generation of Chinese restaurants expanding, at least around west and east coast cities, that appeal to non-Chinese hipsters and wealthy recent immigrant Chinese by bring in contemperary trends in Taiwanese, Beijing, Sichuan, Shanghainese, etc. cuisines.

"Human trafficking" typically refers to kidnapping, not visa fraud.

Visa fraud is a big thing with Chinese businesses in Australia and also in Japan especially with "Taiwan Ryouri" shops. Not sure about Japan but in Australia a lot of Chinese restaurants do basically no business at all. Some are small family businesses with no rent or wage costs, but if they are bigger and empty but staffed, then they are almost certainly also involved not only in visa fraud schemes but in money laundering, and also sometimes more directly in prostitution or drug trafficking.

There are some real scumbags here and it's disgusting that there's no crack-down. We need to start blaming and putting pressure on all Chinese for this sort of shit, so that the few decent ones have an incentive to get rid of the crooks.

Ironically, the reason all of the dishes are of a similar "fake" nature is because 1. A lot of the ingredients needed for authentic Chinese dishes weren't readily available in the US and 2. Authentic Chinese food proved a hard sell to Americans. Odds are, for every one customer willing to try an authintic menu, 50 of them would leave and seek out the sugary sauce-laden orange and coconut chicken they grew up eating. There's a good documentary called "In search of General Tso" on Netflix that goes over the history of Chinese restaurants in America.

I'm pretty confident in saying that General Tso's Chicken is not real Chinese food. In Asia have not heard of him at all.

Well, yeah. Most real Chinese food is weird/disgusting so Westerners wouldn't want to eat it. In Chinatowns, they have restaurants that serve food for their own people that's closer to being authentic, although not 100% of course since some ingredients aren't easily available here.

Chinese spies use these as cover.

There is an authentic Chinese food place in Irvine and it was always packed. However, I struggled to find anything good. And the place smelled like shit because of all the weird foods.

PS - A lot of the dishes are entirely made up and don't have a specific preparation. Chop suey, General Tso's Chicken, etc. In fact there is a Netflix doc on GTC and apparently the Chinese people don't know of him nor does he have anything to do with food.

It can be amazing stuff but is very hard to get used to if your brain/nose/taste buds/gut microbes aren't wired for it.

You say you want to eat "authentic " Chinese food, but you may not want to eat it as much as you think. Don't get me wrong, a lot of regional Chinese cuisine is fucking awesome but a lot of it is also very far removed from anything Westerners are used to. How many Westerners can handle spice that makes your face numb? How many would want to eat mushrooms with the texture of snot? Organ meat? Turtles and sea slugs?

Personally I find most real Chinese food to not be something I care to try. Enjoy your fish eyes and chicken feet. I don't think Westerners would ever truly be able to get into the stuff.

What about stuff like pork buns, soup dumplings, char siu and peking duck? I think westerners would love some dishes if they cared to try.

We can get fairly authentic stuff here in Melbourne mostly around box hill and glen waverley

China has way more food available than you'll ever seen in Western countries. And what I found after being in China several times, is that every restaurant servers only one type of food.
And fuck is it delicious, better than the shit here. Never tried American Chinese though, but I would expect that's the general touristic food they serve, which is meh at best.

go in the late hours before closing
you will see the chinese come out to have dinner
they never eat what they sell

american chinese food is worst
japanese chinese food is best

Damn you're bitter