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Is ETH dead forever, or is now the time to accumulate in mass? Discuss.

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Vitalik and the Ethereum Foundation research team is going to solve scalability for blockchain tech and all the nay-sayers are going to be blown out of the water. Don't believe me?

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Where else do you see this kind of dedication and effort going into solving the real problems properly?

DevconIV is going to be a serious game change for this entire industry when you see what is being pulled off.

Seriously, dump it for tezos. It'll outperform this mess.

En masse*

Waves is launching smart contracts and will shit on ETH

Inne mäss*

ETH is good as a DLT but not for scalable dApps.

Conventment is using ETH as a DLT which is fucking amazing.

yes thank you user

Besides being a first mover ETH has the advantage of having the majority of dapp development happening. Current problem is that there is little to show for it, most finished projects are ponzi games and exchange protocols. Projects that are going to bring in common use and users to the network are getting closer to release.
To name a few promising ones:
>Brave ads/BAT - Remonetize internet ads in a way everbody gets what they want
>Gods Unchained -Hearthstone competitor with users cards on the blockchain
>Civic -Blockchain based KYC, ID verification
>Chainlink -Needs no introduction here
>Funfair -Trustless online gambling, with a polished
>Ox - Exchange protocol necessary to shoulder ETHs token trading until scaling is increased

Here's the problem, by the laws of physics you cannot transfer faster than a centralized sequencal database. Internet infrastructure across the world is too shitty. Unless they create information portals node to node they will never get off the ground because normies care about things being fast.

Face the music, all the dapps are subpar flash idle gambling games. What the actual fuck.

What causes ETH's price to increase if these products are used? (since they have their own tokens, I know they're built on ETH but I don't understand how it makes the price go up)

For one there is ETH gas fees needed for transfers on the network, when mass adoption happens there will be allot of ETH purchased for this purpose.
Secondly, ETH is the standard purchasing power on the network, for buying collectibles or into ICOs (The ICO craze of 2017 is what gave ETH it's value, but developers cashing out is what is making it drop)

I don't disagree with you, currently dapps are shit, and if anything shouldnt be seen as more than experimental for the time being. That being said, there is currently potential for game clients to externally connect to a player's ETH wallet to see what items/status they have without needing to pay gas/wait for every little thing. Gods Unchained I mentioned is going to be doing just that, and having the players cards stored in their wallet, with the player free to trade/sell them externally.

Raiden - full testnet is on, mainnet imminent.

No other crypto has support from the corporate world like ETH does. ETH isn't going anywhere.

ZRX is where you wanna be though.

The Ethereum network is not going anywhere for a long long time. That being said, ETH is overvalued since it's literally a utility token. There's no reason to hoard ETH when you can hoard BTC, which is more recognized as a store of value and global currency.

The Ethereum network can be strong, useful, and valuable even as Ether stays cheap. I wouldn't go for accumulating Ether yet. Right now only deflationary store of value coins like BTC are going to be gaining value. If you really want a long play on Ether might as well buy 0xBTC, since it's going to do what Ether hasn't.

Will 0xBTC ever be on a real exchange?

>No other crypto has support from the corporate world like ETH does.
EOS, Stellar and XRP have better/bigger connections than Ethereum. EOS in particular has huge money backing it.

It doesn't have to be faster than a centralized system, it just has to be fast enough for the trade off to make sense

It doesn't make sense right now to turn a 1 second transaction into an hour transaction, but if scaling solutions can bring that high down to 10 seconds then we will see a lot more people choosing to take the preformance hit

Venture capital=/= corporate world

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Tis true lad, just because an ipo/ico is popular does not mean they are garunteed success in the corporate world

There is nothing on the market at least right now that will knock BTC or ETH out of their current positions. I am very bullish on the long-term future of ETH, but the dumpening has just begun. I am honestly concerned about whether USDT will hold or not... if the tether snaps, everyone with their networth in Tether is going to be 100% fucked.

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No, there is no such thing as a guarantee in crypto. But it's certainly a good indicator. Why would you bet against billions of dollars banking on the success of a project?

I'm not betting against it

IDK, it's tough as shit to get on exchanges without paying listing fees. Exchanges not even in the top 100 are still charging 1BTC, and legit exchanges in top 50 I can't find for anything under 8 BTC. It's hard to get a community with collective 0xBTC wealth of $1.6 million to raise $50k through donations.

Biggest hope right now, as I see it, is to grow the community in the US, Russia, and Asia, and hope that with a larger base those kinds of funds can eventually be raised (and even negotiated down due to high likelihood of consistent volume).

The community is adamant that a currency cannot be born of an ICO or anything but pure mining since day 1, which is nice and all, but it means it's a straight uphill battle.

Eventually, it's just going to take a while. No ICO = no instant pot of funds to buy off exchanges. The community is working on translating the whitepaper to different languages, starting a small advertising program, etc. Once marketcap reaches a decent size we'll probably be able to get a donation pot going that can get us listed somewhere decent. This token is 100% grassroots so it takes time to build momentum.

>it hasn't heard of KIN

ETH is at decentish technical support, will probably consolidate a bit and then pray that support holds because things can get nasty as fuck. Here's the issue, prices fall, what happens with the expenses of ICOs? If ICOs start weakhanding, then the next ICO is in more trouble... see the house of cards?

I think it's fine to buy around this zone if you want to make a quick trade, but I wouldn't make big buys here with the idea of holding.

Phoneposting, I'm the user you replied to, thanks for the answer, it was helpful which is unusual here.

NEM started in a similar way and has turned out quite well, have you studied their origin and rise? May be something to emulate there. Good luck.