If Nordic countries have the best school systems then why are their scores falling?

Deperessions and Antidepressants are illnesses of the wealthy.

Swedes are devolving into toasters

did you even look at the pic

Cause they reworked/changed the school system, changed the grade system and it's horrible.

Everyone I know just does the bare minimum to pass the test now.

>Cause they reworked/changed the school system, changed the grade system and it's horrible.
sounds very familiar

>is one of the highest in OECD
was*

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To further explain, before you could pass a test failing 50%. With the new system you need to have everything correct to pass. To get a higher grade you need to have better answers.

Also we had our own Swedish system (IG, G ,VG, MVG) and we swapped it to the murican one (A,B,C,D,E,F).
Why do you say that?

you can't concentrate on studying when there are niggers around you

I also believe unlimited access to the internet makes people dumber. Just look at this board for instance, pure retardation most of the time. The social media age favors low IQ behavior

i hate non blond people

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>Cause they reworked/changed the school system, changed the grade system and it's horrible.

Elaborate on this? Is this related to the adoption of voucher schools by the conservatives?

Your stat says suicide rate overall, I was referring to youth suicide rate

>you can't concentrate on studying when there are niggers around you
fair point but don’t niggers in Sweden live in segregated neighborhoods? At least that’s what I thought

I think we all know why.

It can be solved by banning your flag tho.

Kids are getting dumber due to their parents preferring ipads to raise them or being crushing helicopter parents. Also nogs and rabs.

How do they calculate rankings? Is it bench marked on other countries? Because it makes sense first world countries fall relatively when everybody else is becoming less poor rural farmers.
I just say tgat because i thought what they thought in school was actually pretty good. Actual application of theory and linking rather than rote learning like is more traditional.
And you talk to a random middle aged person they don't seem any smarter than younger people.

And in the past the where getting dumper because they were parked in front of the TV.

because we allowed """pedagogy""" """""researchers""""" reform the education system

Explained it here
Also yes. They do live in different neighbourhoods.

>trend starts more than a decade before refugee crisis
>I-ITS LE FUCKING NIGGURS!!!
Jesus fucking christ why is this shithole board so utterly OBSESSED with fucking race to the point of total retardation and delusion

>t:nigger

man I thought it's just us who introduced retarded useless and pointless education system reforms (removing of middle school for example)

Sweden started receiving non-white immigrants long before the refugee crisis my dude

Sweden is full of subhuman shitskins, it's completely reasonable to assume that they are responsible for every negative development in the country

>Actually start using high standards
>Suddenly you can't pretend that you have a smart population anymore
Its alright user, nothing wrong with being in the double digit IQ club.

>Jow Forums
>Why is this shithole board obsessed with race

Hey I'm not racist, I just shitpost, but you have to be kidding yourself if you go to Jow Forums and expect people to not talk about ethnicity and race, literally nothing else in common with these people except on rare occasions, it's not like , , or where the main topic isn't about nationality and ethnicity.

One other reason is the reform that gave parents greater ability yo choose which school their kid goes to. This has lead to kids with educated parents not choosing some schools and all rhe un motivated/immgrant kids being clumped together in a majority of schools which leads to further declining results. Also kids nowdays are hardcore dopamine/smartphone junkies. They have become mentaly handicaped by all phone/pad bullshit so that they cant into delayed reward

>With the new system you need to have everything correct to pass

Sounds like the new system was implemented to raise the overall performance but the effects came out to be adverse, could because it dropped the student confidence. Is this true?

>removing of middle school for example
tf why would anyone think of such a retarded idea

why are asians so much keen on IQ MUH intelligence MUH scores MUH this MUH that

fuck you. nobody cares about studies except faggots like you. Godless insects

What exactly was the old system?

>Nordic countries have the best school systems
As far as I know, it was only Finland's school system that was praised. The school system in Sweden was destroyed in the 90's by the Social democrats and has been declining ever since.

>this post coming from an indian
you are not different from us and actually worse in many cases, pajeet impudence is really something

we destroyed it in the 2010's, where sweden goes finland follows

What exactly was changed?

The responsibility for the schools was shifted from the government to municipalities. Being a teacher used to be a respected profession, with salaries on par with what the politicians made. Afterwards teachers were given more tasks unrelated to teaching such as administration, less power and shit wages. This lead to fewer people wanting to become teachers and now the school system here is in crisis.

Our scores are falling in a direct proportion to how many africans and arabs we are importing. Now the ruling party (social democrats, lefties) are seriously talking about removing maths from the curriculum (it's suddenly 'too hard' for the students) and removing the worst score (F) just to make the statistics look better.

Our society is in free fall. This is what leftism and open borders gets you.

To explain the fact that scores are dropping across the board regardless of ethnicity:

'Swedish background' is not a strict term according to our statistical organs, if your parents were born in Sweden you are 100% Swedish according to them. Also, mixed classes, the arabs and africans will contribute to a horrible classroom environment affecting the scores for all.

And I thought we had a retarded education system. It's crazy because our Democrats would point the finger at Sweden, Finland, and Norway as examples of good education systems.

The only finger that should be pointed at Sweden is a warning finger. You wouldn't believe the shit I see in the news here. Our politicians are either utterly retarded, actively malicious and hate the nation/people, or both.

We are really good at upholding this image that everything is going well when in reality everything is a mess.

I'll be honest Jow Forums memes and shitshow about Sweden never changed my perception that it's still a nice place. I mean every country has it's problems. Plus most the swedes I met were tourist and generally were well mannered nice people. So is everything okay over there or no?

Depends on what you mean with okay. Can you come here and not be murdered/raped and have a good time? Yes. Can you still live a normal life? Yes. However, the country has no future. Non-Swedes will over time take over the nation as the dominant force, all positive aspects of our nation are pointing downwards, and I have the general feeling that things are running on fumes from the time when this country was actually managed pretty well (decades ago).

>Why do you say that?
in germany every federal country has his own school system, 16 in total. in the past when a new government got in charge they try to change the school system. 5-10 years later they realize they fucked up and try to change this system again. that is what i mean that it sounds familiar. nrw is a good example, cdu fdp government got elected, they change the school system, nobody likes it and they got kicked out. spd and greens promised they would go back to the old system, which they didn't, they try to fix the stupid system of the cdu fdp school reform shit.

Some another user on here said that there is an increase in immigrants and the capital city is a shit show?

changing demographics, the younger generation is full of middle-easterners and africans. 1/4 is non-white

The overall quality of education drops when you have people from average low IQ countries in your classrooms.

That is depressing. How much of the mess in Sweden do you think is the results of open border policy? Do you see Sweden today would be similar to the past had it kept its borders closed?

>we destroyed it in the 2010's
What did you do?

because it's correct, the niggers and muslims are degrading every aspect of society

Somalis score some 200 points of a 500 point swede test

All major cities are ~50 percent non White. Minor cities range from 10 to 30

Our schools definitely are not good at all, so I assume theirs are not either.

I am fairly certain all of our problems come from the open borders policy. Most policy hasn't changed much, just the composition of the people. Economic changes have been good even, but it doesn't help when a large subset of the population doesn't have the skills or IQ to contribute

well, at least somali girls are cute, r-rght?

We had massive immigration well before that little bump

>swedish heritage
>somalis and muslimes
yes sure

Haha, what? They look awful, smell bad and are nearly always quite fat

Brown people

Finland too has many brown people?

Globalism is a byproduct of capitalism, and it will only become more prevalent in the future whether people like it or not

that's right, traditional finnish school is what made it great, the reformation is what made it drop
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Maybe, but literally every left wing party in Sweden is pro open borders

Our system is fine. PISA scores are dropping because kids have smartphones.

>Not wanting weaklings to suicide
Survival of the fittest.

>smartphones, video games and other digital time wasters don't exist in East Asia

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The problem is that ethnic Swedes and ethnic Germans are extremely paranoid about losing control over their society, therefore they prefer to import low IQ Africans and MENA people rather than high IQ Chinese. Look at Canada's PISA score.

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They do indeed, but asian parents are more strict and controlling. They have a totally different culture to us scandis, who are more laid-back and easy going.

Ar*bs have an average IQ of 85 they bring test scores down

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welt.de/politik/deutschland/article143637971/Finnlands-Pisa-Wunder-entpuppt-sich-als-Irrtum.html

This article (it is in german but google translated text is fairly comprehensible) explains that the new education system in Finland is wrongly attributed to Finland’s high performance when the traditional Finnish school system up to the 90s was actually strict and authoritarian

they also bring TESTOSTERONE up, wh*Teboi

> asian parents are more strict and controlling

what is this meme?

My parents never forced study.

LMAO

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a-aniki?

New Zealand is even higher now. Absolute shithole to raise a family in.

The first issue is the lack of teachers, especially competent ones. Due to large classes and administrative work there is little time for actual teaching. They also continually lower the requirements to become a teacher as well, leading an influx of young and insecure teachers who can't do anything. Teachers also have no power to discipline students, meaning that telling a disruptive student (mainly coons, towelheads and Balkan shits but also native Swedes) to leave the classroom is forbidden.
The next issue is related to the students themselves. You have big classes of mixed students, girls and boys, immigrants and whites, "normal" kids and people with special needs who all share the same classroom. There is a lack of funding to seperate bad students who disrupt class or the ones who need specialist help, but also an ideological idea that everyone is the same and must do the same, meaning Abdullah MUST have the chance to go in a regular school, otherwise he is discriminated against or Sven the autist who just sits in a corner and gets bullied since he isn't fit for the regular school work. There is also a lack of general motivation to so the school work since most of it is very boring and only there because politicians wanted it, not because any teacher or responsible adult recommended it.
This brings me to the last issue, the government interference, leftist and "conservative" (read stealing money to line their own and Schlomos pockets), and how these politicians have utterly fucked the youth. Politicians constantly go against recommendations by education professionals in order tp score brownie points, they changed the grading system recently for no reason but have also been introducing grades to younger students simply in the belief that this will improve academic performance, they do this while blocking funding, attempts by teachers to improve quality or the ability to punish bad student and ignoring professionals.
Continuation next post.

Asian diaspora in the west are middle class education fanatics, so Asians have the stereotype of being study obsessed, when in reality it's a middle class thing across the board in the west.

Politicians also believe that students must be tech savy in order to compete in global world, therefore all students now have an ipad or laptop to work on in school. Imagine a generation of stunted kids with no attention span and lacking the ability to write by hand.

Essentially the education system is a toy for politicians to score cheap political points while fucking the kids over.