No, you can't work to undermine the current political system and install communism!

People who unironicly think these ""people"" are communists dont deserve to have an opinion

>i-i-it's not real communism
literally ideologycuck

based comrade.

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>Capitalism is the reason I’m a loser!

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>if you're against communism you don't DESERVE to have an opinion!!
>no we're ANTI-fascist what don't you understand??

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Communism is not an ideology.
Strawman
Samebogan

>If you ain't good looking you ain't a communist

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Hope the norks clease your degenerate nation in nuclear fire.
Calling people online comrades is cringe , il call a fellow communist comrades on person no some user is met online .
Post pic of any of those degenerates showing that they are member of an acctual communist party

I mean. You can have your opinion, it just makes you either a moronic classtraitor or bourgeois scum.

>I mean. You can have your opinion, it just makes you either a moronic classtraitor or bourgeois scum.

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at least after commietugal gets raid by muslim and niggers

Nothing to do with looks ,Im Ugly as a brick , these degenerates are all the same,"yes comrades ,lets march for gay rights for lenin !!!",ive seen plenty of those types joining my party being there a week realizing organized struggle was nothing like their cockslurping dreams and straight up leave ir never show up again

and history has certainly shown that people with the "wrong" opinion don't suffer any repercussions whatsoever and are treated fair and equal. Sounds good bro sign me up

They could just be lumpen.
Nice one, I'm sure the reason people tend towards socialism is because they're weak and strange, not because community and solidarity matter apart from letting ugly people fuck.
Oh wow there is totally freedom in aus and the anglosphere. Not subjugated by the finance industry at all, Bruce. I bet you're real independent like.

>LOVE IS LOVE!!!!
>YOU CAN'T TELL MUSLIMS THEY CAN'T KILL GAYS THAT'S RACIST!!!!

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There ara more m*slims in your distopian hellhole then in the whole of portugual

more freedom than any country has ever had under communism

>Nice one, I'm sure the reason people tend towards socialism is because they're weak and strange, not because community and solidarity matter apart from letting ugly people fuck.

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be wary of farming potatoes lest you become one

i don't think workers ever had control over the means of production

>Capitalism and democracy is good!
>Why?
>Well um because uh IT JUST IS, OK?

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>More freedom then any communist country
They again bruce

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>UNDER COMMUNISM WE'D ALL BE EQUAL AND I WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORK WHICH WOULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF ME BEING A BRAIN DAMAGED TRANNY WITH NO SOCIAL SKILLS!!!

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Because once leading revolutionaries win they toss those workers they had 'support' away lmao.

Great argument, Rodgers.
Oh you actually see causal chains in language, I'm astonished. Would you like to begin again?

Give me one (1) example of a country where communism worked. One.

Retard, I dont hate working in General, I just hate working for the 1%s fifth yacht.

>What do you mean Mao slaughtered millions of people? Capitalist lies!

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>Democracy only exists with capitalism
>Boy i sure love my two party dictatorship consiting of a slightly left and a slightly right wing party

Hmm...

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where are mass graves? I haven't seen a single photo of cultural revolution victim tbqh

these need to be combined

If you give me one example where USA or its allies didn't do literally everything in their power to kill off an ideology that was threatening the global financial takeover.
Oh wow a realist perspective yields the same result as a Marxist perspective. What a shock.
>What do you mean the cold war was a scam
>L-liberty and f-freedom won against ebin communism
>McCarthyism and infiltration is the same as communism being given free reign to adapt to the world

>I have no arguments
>Let me just shitout trannies and wojacks maybe they wont notice

Cuba
Nicaragua

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>>I have no arguments
>>Let me just shitout trannies and wojacks maybe they wont notice

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>I am a monarchist

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sure seems like it

Probably should have Said pic related in the post .
And stop being an autist and using communism and socialism like their the same , One is the Path to the other

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>B-but blockading basic necessities didn't automatically lead to the collapse of Cuba? B-but they still believe in socialism even after we gave them cucka cola and threatened to bulldoze their sand pit with nukes?
Israel is literally doing the same to Palestine right now. Have for decades. Basic commodities are externally restricted by the "liberal forces" to "prevent terrorism".
In reality all it does is artificially hold down a potential political opponent. History shows tendency towards less interstate war anyway, but liberal capitalist view is that war is good for business. Guess which state has the most to do with quelling international solidarity movements both covertly and overtly. Go on. I'll wait.

If you give me one example where USSR or its allies didn't do literally everything in their power to kill off an ideology that was threatening the global financial takeover.

i didn't know shitugueses have lower iq like this

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based
go back to Jow Forums. Jow Forums is NOT the board for political discussions, you retard. You only deserve to be mocked for posting off-topic garbage

You don't have to tell me. I know exactly who are behind the world's disasters.

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>n-n-noooo every time communism failed it was due to le ebin evil capitalists!!!!

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>*Monkey noises*
>U opinion bad ,they good ,they stay u go
Shitty banter in response to ligitimate criticism

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Gorbachev vying for reform.
USSR stopping at the 38th parallel instead of bulldozing ahead into ROK.
Two enough?

>Overtrow , invades and blocades every socialist goverment in history
>"Lmao you commie really are dumb ,how many socialist leader do we have to kill for you to realize it doesnt work"

Jow Forums is not the political board, you fucking subhuman, learn this. That's the only reason why you should get the fuck out, you low iq retard with 5% nigger dna

>I AM A VICTIM OF COMMUNISM!!!!

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Have sex, Jow Forumscels

Not Steam rolling the allies out of continental europe after ww2 ,like the allies planned to do to them

>People shitting on socialism isnt a political opinion
>But yours is so reeeeeeee back to Jow Forums
Ape tier Logic right there

>A communist regime is totalitarian
>A subversive capitalist regime is authoritarian
It's like they don't know about Jeanne Kirkpatrick and her work with shaping foreign policy. Saddam, Ghaddafi, Mubarak... Every attempt at local stability in MENA is crushed "in the name of the West".
Not even half an argument, bankbaby.

is that an offer?

People shit on socialism because it's retarded and never works well.

Completly missed the point to that post but sure.
Its retarded becuse you say so? And it failed expect when it didnt right?

>Gorbachev vying for reform.
Which led to the dissolution of the USSR? Kek great example.
>USSR stopping at the 38th parallel instead of bulldozing ahead into ROK.
Umm... so did the US.

Let me guess: You never took introductory econ? You're completely clueless as to how economies work, aren't you?

>he really thinks somebody is shitting on commies for serious political discussion
bruh you are literally fucking retard

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this thread was started by a commie, people are just mocking him, not having real discussion, because that's for FUCKING Jow Forums. If you want to talk about the cold war, second world war, that's ok, that's Jow Forums related. But communism, nazism or whatever, belongs to Jow Forums, sorry

The wellbeing of the state is not the wellbeing of the people.

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Most of the mongs that post soyjacks in these threads are NEETs who talk alot about "politics" on Jow Forums but irl do nothing for their belifes they are just happy with complaining on the internet

They shit on it because it's never been permitted in Western thought. Every attempt is quashed by realpolitik. Few examples exist of even social-democratic states with mixed economies, and even then it's basically just the Nordica, not powerful enough or similar enough to the other Western States to warrant any intervention. Oho but if a socialist governor rises to power in the east, or a socialist party rises in Africa, then we're talking serious destabilizing countermeasures. Sure as the sun will set on Washington.
Dissolution wasn't caused only by him. Decades of weakening of Soviet capabilities resulted in that. There are many examples of "accidental border dissolution", also in Norway with Sweden.
"So did US" only when they arrived several days later. Ussr would have had a major advantage but found it more useful to honor the agreement. Read a fucking book, cereblet.
Let me guess, you took so little econ you still think introductory econ is viable? It's an autistic science and isn't regarded as empirically significant by any other...

Yeah nobody said it was.
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What I find so hilarious about these communists and antifa fags is that if their society would actually change to Communism, they'd be one of the first sent to the gulags or executed

Same thing with skinheads in a National Socialist society

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>Noooo you can't be a Monarchist, YOU JUST CANT ITS NOT DEMOCRATIC

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>Polical doscussions
>Jow Forums
Are you new here?
Op posted bait and anons Started sperging out "gomminism bad".
You just want me to leave because you dont like my opinion just say that

>They shit on it because it's never been permitted in Western thought.
No, they shit on it because of every socialist experiment ever attempted.
>East Germany vs. West Germany
>North Korea vs. South Korea
>Pre-reform mainland China vs. Taiwan and Hong Kong
>"So did US" only when they arrived several days later.
Kek so you admit the US did the same thing. So why bring it up as if the USSR's failure the cross the 38th was exceptional? Dumb retard.
>you took so little econ you still think introductory econ is viable?
>introductory econ is viable?
What did he mean by this?
>It's an autistic science
lol

monarchy is much better ,just take out the Royal family and its done

>nobody said it was
But everybody has been saying this in the thread. Who cares about the wealth produced by a country if 95% goes to foreigners and 4% goes to local elites?
Also I just download pictures off my search engine.

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>Op posted bait and anons Started sperging out "gomminism bad".
>WAAAAAAAAH MOMMY I WANTED TO BELITTLE THE EVIL CAPITALISTS BUT GOT BTFO INSTEAD

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>You dont have a collage degree on how neo-liberal economize work ,dumb commies
Thats the most retarded boomer argument ive hear so far.
Let me Guess:you never read the whole of das kapital and are clueless to marxist literature?

Seething

not him, but you're entitled to your opinion just don't go ape shit when someone calls garbage garbage, mate. Communism is a meme. And is even funnier to bait some fucktard like you to try and defending it.

>Endless flood of soyjack
>Y-yeah guys se totaly btfod the commies ,r-right?

>Not him
>I just have the same opinion
Sure lets pretend i belive, i dont have problema people calling my opinion garbage , but non of these brainlets including you ape boy have even giving a reason why.
You can say what you want just backup what you are saying hiding behind soyjacks and adhomins just shows how sad of a person you are

>you can't criticize my mass murdering failed of a ideology on account of you didn't read this waste of paper.
You can't criticize Nazism if you didn't read Mein Kampf either, didn't you known ?

>Thats the most retarded boomer argument ive hear so far.
Understanding how markets and basic supply & demand work is a "retarded boomer argument"? No wonder communist wet dreams always lead to poverty.
>Let me Guess:you never read the whole of das kapital and are clueless to marxist literature?
Oh no no no no. I bet you haven't even read Das Kapital and don't realize it contradicts itself over the course of its 3 volumes, especially when it comes to the labor theory of value which is pure nonsense. This is gonna be entertaining.

I did , its very poorly wrriten btw Hitler was a good speaker shit writer.
>Mass murdering ideology
How could i forget if a guy trips and falls in the ussr it counts as a murder of Stalin
And its only mass murder if its under commie rule , if happens in a liberal "democracy" its just a tragety

>How could i forget if a guy trips and falls in the ussr it counts as a murder of Stalin
Nope. Political executions, Gulag deaths, resettlement deaths, and famine deaths are all duly recorded (though sometimes underestimated for obvious reasons) by official documents. Are you now going to say that the USSR's own documents were le ebin propaganda? Lmao.

Backpedal harder leaflet.
>E./W. Germany
Just the fact that even in GERMANY this lasted so long should tell you the opposite, that it's external instead of internal divides that cause the collapse.
>DPRK/ROK
Arbitrarily split by USA/USSR for no actual historical reason. Scene of a proxy war where imperial US and Japan stood against Soviet/Chinese/Korean troops for a long time. You hopefully know a bit about Korea as a Japanese vassal state before WW2 and the very real tensions that occurred as a result.
>PRC/Taiwan/HongKong
Look, if you're putting China as communist you have to admit it works based on their production and economic prowess. Different morals maybe but still.
HK was a crime against the Hongkonger by British. Should never have "released" their hold to China. This is the mistake, not too much communism, but fucking Maggie sticking her bits where they don't belong. Because of liberal push for independence.
>So did US
R u troling me lol? Do you understand that when somebody is already standing along a border you can't just push through? Do you understand temporal displacement of events? One then two then three? It seems like you confuse the timeline, and that's not my problem.
>(That you think) introductory econ is viable (as a means of explaining the world)
Are you absolutely touched in the head? Do you have no reading comprehension?
Basic economics serve as nothing more than fairy tales to explain much more complex emergent features of sociology, trade and politics. It's not enough to form an understanding of economics as a field.
>Autistic science
Literally. It doesnt concern itself with empiricism from other fields, just its own theories and nonsense. You arguing against me in this way shows you have no clue what you're on about.
So are internment camps, black sites, kill squads, drone strikes, justice murder, systematic economic oppression, concerted efforts to facilitate an economic elite free from regulations..

so... you're being ironic and stating that holodomor, the gulags, the purges, the laogai, 1/3 of cambodia are just car-crashes.... You really can't see why nobody takes you people seriously ?

Yes Im sure all those 3rd world nations sure are happy they understand how the market works , clearly it is a flawless system.
>3 books
4 books ,and you should read it with a group of you belive ir contradicts it self.
>Communism always lead to poverty
Yeah lets just ignore the massive life inprovements socialist nations like cuba and the ussr ,big rises life expectancy, quality of life and literacy rates while under constant outside pressure are nothing really

Nice try jew. We all know you'd love to keep enslaving the workers for your own benefit.

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Charles had a moment of doubt, communism meant equality, but equality meant chaos

Have you ever even been or seen cuba outside your commie magazine ? They have no modern medicine equipment, their entire health system is based on prevention, if anyone gets sick they basically fucked.