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>What if that tradition is misogynistic?
It's only misogynistic to people who seek offense in everything.

>Is the former acceptable?
I guess, but I feel like anybody doing so is either doing it to make a point or because the father's surname is awful.

Harks back to males being the legitimate heirs to the family name and fortune (i.e. the stash of potatoes and turf).

And?

>It's only misogynistic to people who seek offense in everything
Or to people who open their eyes and dare to question bad traditions (i.e. people who aren't sheep and just vote FF and FG all the time)?

Males having priority in inheritance was a misogynistic practice.

t. Jow Forumsireland

If you're hear to preach, be open about it. Don't hide under the guise of an innocent question.

>system inherently favours men over women
>not inherently mysoginistic
You still haven't given a reason for keeping it.

>stating one's point is preaching
Right lads, let's just shout random incoherent words from now on. I'll start...

Window

Because it does no harm and only offends the perpetually offended.

"Muh tradition"

>"Tradition bad"

Bad traditions are bad, Taoiseach.

"Bad" is a matter of perspective.

Neither of those are reasons.

Yes they are. If something is harmless and most people aren't bothered by it, there is no reason to get rid of it. You're only looking to make an issue out of something that most people don't care about. Try redirecting your efforts towards something more productive.

Right, if you were a misogynist then I guess you wouldn't perceive it to be bad. Makes sense.
Maybe unequal would be a better term to describe it.

If something's harmless and most people aren't bothered with it, then what's wrong with changing it? Surely you wouldn't be bothered if you lived in a world where you took your mother's name then?

>Misogynist
I fail to see how. If women didn't like this tradition, then they wouldn't adhere to it. I am acquiescing to the wishes of Irish women, unlike you.

>it's just and right if more people say it is

>then what's wrong with changing it?
A better question would be "Why change it?" Change for the sake of change isn't necessarily a good thing.

>Surely you wouldn't be bothered if you lived in a world where you took your mother's name then?
I prefer my father's surname.

>if women didn't like not voting, they wouldn't adhered to it

>I am acquiescing to the wishes of Irish women, unlike you
So you don't agree with who looks disapprovingly on it?

>A better question would be "Why change it?"
Because a child has two parents and perhaps the one that carries it for 9 months should have some representation?

That's not really applicable when the "victims" of this perceived offense don't seem to have an issue with the tradition. If they did, they wouldn't adhere to it.

But the suffragettes advocated for change and ultimately got what they wanted. I don't see any such movement for the abandonment of surname traditions (which unlike the right to vote, are not legally enforced, so it's apples and oranges).

Both me.

People who want to change Londonderry to Derry are just those who are constantly offended and outraged by every little thing.
It literally makes no difference what it is called, so why change it.

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>Because a child has two parents and perhaps the one that carries it for 9 months should have some representation?
Parents are equals. It's their choice. It's not our role to tell them what to do. We can have opinions on the matter, but that's it. Forcing change for the sake of change when the current system works just fine would be little more than virtue signalling.

>ignoring historical context.
Don't oversimplify things to support your shitty argument.

>I don't see any such movement for the abandonment of surname traditions
So you're saying that if people did advocate for change, then you would support it? I highly doubt that considering that you've been against the mere suggestion of it from this thread alone.

>So you're saying that if people did advocate for change, then you would support it?
Not necessarily. But if there were a sizable number of people advocating for change, then at least the argument for change would carry some weight.

>historical context
It was always called Londonderry officially, just like men have always inherited.

>It was always called Londonderry officially
>always
I didn't realise that Irish history began with the plantations.

Well, that's when the civilised history began at least.

>Parents are equals
But that's the point. If they are equal then shouldn't they be given equal naming credit? And isn't it a little insensitive to say that the person who physically carrying a child in their body and suffering the ill effects that can come with it, is an equal to the person who merely provides the seed? And of course that's going from a purely biological perspective, but every couple is different so it's pointless to compare otherwise.

>It's their choice. It's not our role to tell them what to do. We can have opinions on the matter, but that's it
I'm glad to hear we won't have anymore political discussions unless we all become politicians.

>if there were a sizable number of people advocating for change, then at least the argument for change would carry some weight
So the amount of people that believe something changes whether it's correct? I guess r/Ireland was right, the majority does have the right opinion.

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Based rhododendrons.

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>If they are equal then shouldn't they be given equal naming credit?
I prefer the option of choosing the surname if the parents are that way inclined (which most do not appear to be). As I said originally, a double-barreled surname is an unfair burden to put on a child and will only cause confusion when there's a second generation.

>And isn't it a little insensitive to say that the person who physically carrying a child in their body and suffering the ill effects that can come with it, is an equal to the person who merely provides the seed?
Parents should be equals. I thought we had moved beyond letting biology dictate one's value in life?

>I'm glad to hear we won't have anymore political discussions unless we all become politicians.
Not sure where you drew that conclusion from. Political discussion is inherently opinion-based.

>So the amount of people that believe something changes whether it's correct?
>willfully misunderstanding me
Sizable =/= Majority. If it's just a handful of loons, then a movement is hardly going to have much credence. There's a certain critical mass required for any movement to be taken seriously.

Those are some nice trees.

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>Healy-Rae screeching intensifies

How to revitalise /éire/:

1. Post controversial statement/question
2. *autistic screeching*
3. ?????
4. Profit

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Sounds like a flawless strat to me.

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Would posting a pic of someone from real life be bad or illegal? Let's say I just randomly took a pic of someone from Twitter or some other public platform.

What are your motives?

Don't have any. Does it depend on the motive?

I don't know. I guess I'm just curious as to why you asked in such a suspicious way.

I'm new here and don't know the rules. Also it isn't something I have done before.

>a double-barreled surname is an unfair burden to put on a child and will only cause confusion when there's a second generation
But how? Living with the shame of having both of your parent's names? There are many children whose fathers are scumbags that are forced to live with the burden of his name alone.

>Parents should be equals
"Should". You can't say that believing in equality means that the father suffers pregnancy pains or the mother able to drink alcohol without harming the child. Biological facts take precedence over how much you believe couples work together.

>Political discussion is inherently opinion-based
As is this. It is some people's opinions that only the father of a child should have surname rights, others disagree. You were saying that we shouldn't be discussing this matter without being parents, which is stupid since we are all the children of parents.

>Sizable =/= Majority. If it's just a handful of loons, then a movement is hardly going to have much credence. There's a certain critical mass required for any movement to be taken seriously.
You're still saying that you take the number of followers of a belief into consideration over the belief itself. What you're saying is that your opinion is inherently based on the majority opinion. Even if you're the only person in the world to believe something to be true, then you shouldn't abandon your own morals because not enough people follow you. Was Jesus wrong to preach his message even though He and His followers were considered "a handful of loons" by the greater Jewish society?

I have a better idea:

1. Autistically screech controversial statement/question
2. *autistic screeching*
3. Mysterious autistic screeching
4. Autistic profit

Needs more autism.

Jaggy

As long as you continue to misconstrue and misrepresent my posts, I will no longer engage in this discussion.

Given what the taxes are being spent on, thats a good thing

>what the taxes are being spent on
Roads, hospitals and fibre broadband?

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I can say the same. You've continually ignored the points presented to you and instead offered nothing more than your own opinion. Tell me in what way I have misconstrued your posts, and then respond to mine, and I may accept your complaint.

welfare for darkies

What's the solution then? No taxes? Wouldn't that be a case of cutting our noses to spite our face?

thanks!

brazil is white

Im grand with socialism, national socialism.

What does that entail? High taxes and lots of nationalism?

Not the Irish way of doing things, and a sign of decadent post-feudal pseudo-aristocratic pretensions.
You're not a cadet branch, you're not adding titles to your name, you're just pretentious west brit fucks getting cucked by feminism

yup

What about if one can speak fluent Gaeilge and has a double-barrelled name? Does that still make them a West Brit?

Any downsides? Is it civic nationalism?

I think they cancel each other out and you cease to exist.

Nope no downsides, unless you're a cuck

In never-ending despair, lads

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I'm definitely not a cuck!
National socialist is a bit of a mouthful though. Is there any shorthand term with which I can identify myself?

Maybe you should do something to make you happy?

Reddit makes the best memes.

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Anyone used Freetube? Good?

That happiness would be only temporary, the future would still be bleak.

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Yo
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I'm like bitch, who is your mans?, aye
Can't keep my dick in my pants, aye
My bitch don't love me no more, aye
She kick me out I'm like vro, aye
That bitch don't wanna be friends, aye
I gave her dick, she got mad, aye
She put her tongue on my dick, aye

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Everything in life is temporary, and the future will always be bleak anyways because we all die eventually.

On a related subject, the traditional Irish naming scheme had several barrels to it. It would go: your first name -> your father's first name -> his father's first name, and maybe one or two more depending. For example, people might call you Tomás-Séamus-Tadgh-Féilim. That goes for women too, so you could have Caitríona-Séamus-Tadgh-Féilim. It's a tradition that's still followed in some Gaeltacht areas.

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Rockall a qt succubus.

I was up late night ballin'
Countin' up hundreds by the thousand
I was up late night ballin'
Countin' up hundreds by the thousand
I was up late night ballin'
Countin' up hundreds by the thousand
I was up late night ballin'
Countin' up hundreds by the thousand

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Lads (and ladies), what does "gowl" mean?

So what would your name be? Has anyone ever called you by it?

>So what would your name be? Has anyone ever called you by it?
You're only allowed to be addressed by your full Irish name if you become the big man of the town/parish

>big man
Fucking misogynist. You said it was for women too.

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Being the "Big woman of the town" is a very different role.

>Is there any shorthand term with which I can identify myself?
nazi

>So what would your name be?
George-Oliver-Winston-Strongbow.

>Has anyone ever called you by it?
Yes, I'm a big star down at the parish's Lóiste Oráisteach.

In what way(s)?

This, enjoy the life you have. You don't get another.

>Lóiste Oráisteach
Austrian Legion?

Curious is the newfriend's art...

Bebo choons youtube.com/watch?v=DkGRcITL6WM

Is that a bad thing...?

I hate the Fine Gael, dude

based breivik