Is positive mindset a meme?

it's a meme by poorfags who were never rich. same when brainlet normies try to personalities to certain intelligence levels when they are completely unrelated(ex. if you are an asshole or arrogant in any shape or form you MUST be stupid, kek)

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this. literally all that i've met are really fucking nice, it's the middle - upper middle larping as rich who come off as fucking deranged cunts.

You do realize that if you embrace your introversion and don't know when to turn it off, you're being a dick right?
It's not that the introversion is the problem, it's when you don't know how to control it and you leave it to become other people's problems that you are the problem.
The same inability to practice selfawareness and self-control in extroverts is just as much a problem.

Your selfish attempt to just stay under the radar, so that nobody notice your deficiencies, isn't anymore noble or nice, it's just immature.

>Literally every rich person I've ever met is a dick

its about having a positive mindset for yourself, not for other people.

sociopathy is correlated with extroversion. the introverted sociopath meme was invented by actual extroverted sociopaths to put humble hard working people down.

Not defending their behavior, but they can afford to be dicks because they've already made it. However, those who haven't made it get the wrong idea and think that being an asshole is the first step to being rich.

Most "introverted sociopaths" would probably register as covert malignant narcissists. They're more likely to have trouble in the workplace though and their incomes will tend to reflect it.

Sociopathy and introverted introspection don't mix.

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>You do realize that if you embrace your introversion and don't know when to turn it off, you're being a dick right?
Elaborate please? I can't stand people in general and choose not to interact with them unless absolutely necessary, how is this being a dick?

not sure what you mean
"positive mindset" doesn't have to mean being a pushover or weak or happy-go-lucky, it can just as easily mean confidence in yourself or self-assuredness.

Yes I think positive mindset is a real thing, it's tough to be a pessimistic winner.

“Mindset” is a meme.

That user is just insecure, probably an introvert himself. His insistence on extroversion is just an excuse get people to expose their vulnerabilities, making them easier to criticize and demoralize, literally bringing them down to his level. It's just his way of coping for his own flaws.

Some "how to be successful" types of books, actually most of them, state as one of the important things to be nice to people and not to judge people and other characteristics of a generally nice person with good manners.

My brother in law is a introverted sociopath and he is the most evil mother fucker I have ever met.

Absolutely no conscience what so ever. My sister will never be free of him either because she bred with the asshole.

Positive thinking can even slow down cancer from killing you

Don't know about that - I mean in terms of face-to-face business, sure it's probably a benefit to treat people nicely so that they'll want to deal with you again and to establish a network/connection.

That's only one part of it though, and likely an insignificant part since most people can be replaced. Most important to see yourself as a winner, a "YES I CAN" attitude. If you're depressed or miserable or angry and self-deprecating you're going to have a rough time succeeding. Better to be the guy with the 5" dick walking around like you've got a 12" rather than throwing a tantrum about your shitty genetics that you have no power to change; get my point? the energy you spend focusing on the negative side is wasted, whereas the energy spent on the positve side, even if it's just boisterous, arrogant energy can and often will lead to success. It's the classic fake it until you make it approach.

i don't think you guys know what sociopathy means. all it means is simply the incapability/suppression of emotional empathy. an introvert is perfectly capable of being a sociopath, but may use cognitive empathy(it is possible to be a good-willed sociopath with this) to compensate just like any other sociopath. the only reason why it seems like a meme is because introverts simply aren't even going to interact with you to let you know they're sociopaths unlike extroverts.

Oh, I'm aware and I have several of these Cluster B pieces of shit in my life.

The point is that sociopaths tend to be too excitable to be able to execute introspective thought on a regular basis. They get bored really easily without plenty of excitement around.

It's not that it's impossible for there to be sociopathic introverts, it's just that their diagnosis will probably align more with covert malignant narcissism or, for the truly calculating, psychopathy. Not that there's really much of a difference, both sociopathy and psychopathy get lumped into Antisocial PD.

And yes, some sociopaths even lead somewhat virtuous lives as they realize they can get what they want out of people by being "nice" to them. As you say, cognitive empathy. Few have that kind of self-control though.

> is a dick
That's something else. Positive mindset is something like
> You can do it with the right attitude!
mythfolklore.net/aesopica/milowinter/101.htm
That's a bit the problem I think you guys have. It's not, it won't be painful. It will take from you and you're hoping it's worth it, but you're thinking in terms of having it already. You're moving but you can't take everything you have to the other side, Basically, there's going to be a cost. Let's say I'm the best bottlemaker in the world and I'm super autistic about it. I'm not even doing it for the money, I just want to make the best bottle possible, the one nobody has made before but always existed in my mind, it's just that everybody was too busy doing other things to make the bottle real. That would "consume" my life. Maybe in people, maybe in health, maybe in kindness towards people that don't make bottles or something. Maybe you'll say something about bottles that some bottlemaker or not bottlemaker hears and makes them burn your house. Once you made that bottle, your raw autism would let you see a new bottle or make you find the best bottle where to put things that come from your dick ot write a record about bottles for the next guys. But there's not an "I rest" moment. That's why most people don't get rich making bottles, everybody's fine with just the second best bottle. The best bottle is a gift to the world and the world gifts you.

Now, if you're lucky and gifted, maybe that autism won't make the experience that painful. Maybe you will enjoy every step of the process, that's a bit the lie and the cope, but I accept there may be some level of vocation or calling or whatever. But in most cases it makes you happy there are other things in the world besides bottles, like people and maybe even money, that's only worth something to buy food and bottles and shit like that. Also
> You can't make a better bottle
Can lead most people into positive mindset, but it can make them give up.

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>garyvee

did they get rich by being dicks, who work hard and put in the hours or did they become dicks in the process

or did they become dicks after they worked hard all their life only to be raped by taxes

It seems like a pretty ubiquitous answer when the dude isn't quite sure how he ended up where he did, or as a more marketable veneer if he has some idea. I don't think the cultish venerations and mantras are at all necessary, but the element is there that to be successful you generally do need to think doing something will work if you try it, otherwise you end up doing nothing. There's diminishing returns on that though since you usually need to have some competence behind that momentum to actually capitalize on it, which usually gets lost in the "positivity" mental masturbation loop.

One thing I would say is that Ive seen a bunch of people in my life pass up really great opportunities by being cynical and negative. I have one rich brother in law who thinks big and positively and sees and dreams big and he is loaded. The other is typical salary guy who just thinks about drinking on the weekend and playing it safe. He is poor as fuck. The poor one was actually the better academically I was told.

Nothing wrong with that. Football is gay

It's american football, not soccer.

>The point is that sociopaths tend to be too excitable to be able to execute introspective thought on a regular basis.
Or we like people like you and we know you'll abandon us the moment we show you our genuine excitement. If you ask me
> why do you do that instead of something "nice" like me?
And I tell you, that it's because it makes me happy about the things it will destroy whatever the punishment, that it's for the danger in itself, maybe you'll warn others against me and I'll be alone and I don't like being alone. But I'm not looking for followers. Maybe it's for the best that we can push you away or that you can push others away from us but if you leave me alone in the world with only a rope and you tell me you leave me there because you love me the most, after a while there's only one thing I'll know how to do. Something sociopathic could be
> Everything is a means to an end
Something "nice"
> People are a means to happiness
All those imposed eggshelss are not clarity. If I'm a cold motherfucker then your love always gets way too warm. We need to warn others in our way too and if you don't believe anything else, please trust me on this, there are way worse things than us with way worse intentions and maybe it's true you can go at them on your perfect unstained virtue alone but I don't think you can.

Ok so to stay on topic
They just follow the meme Weak men create bad times.
If someone is honestly critical to you, it helps you more than fake platitudes.
Not like roastie bullshit. It's gonna be allright user, just bee yourself. Might as well check the horoscope.
I guess richfags know it does not work that way and behave accordingly.

A positive mindset works if you have people that can fill up the holes in your reasoning and implementation. If you don't, into homelessness you go!

> I divide my officers into four groups. There are clever, diligent, stupid, and lazy officers. Usually two characteristics are combined. Some are clever and diligent - their place is the General Staff. The next lot are stupid and lazy - they make up 90 per cent of every army and are suited to routine duties. Anyone who is both clever and lazy is qualified for the highest leadership duties, because he possesses the intellectual clarity and the composure necessary for difficult decisions. One must beware of anyone who is stupid and diligent - he must not be entrusted with any responsibility because he will always cause only mischief.

This sounds kind of close and good intentioned but there's a barrier I can't make pass. It's not on logic, it's not on mischief with a purpose, it's not for others, it's something that broke and nobody gave a fuck about.

one more example please