is this a good thing or a bad thing
EU-Mercosur trade agreement
>Mercosur is already a major market for EU exports of olive oil frozen potatoes, malt, chocolates, vegetable and fruit (e.g. pears, plums, kiwis, apples), soft drinks, as well as wines vodka and whiskey.
its good now we can finally eat affordable good meat
>frozen shipments of meat across the atlantic
>good
[X] Doubt
its good now we can finally drink affordable good beer and wine
still better than frozen cheap shit from poland and denmark
Its good now we can finally snort 95% pure cocaine for an affordable price
Should make some foodstuffs cheaper for us.
Should make some machinery cheaper for them.
Dunno what else.
Colombia isn't included.
Now its your time to shine
Stop supporting globalism. Tend to your own markets first before you decide to trade away your economy to third world shitholes.
t. mercantilist brainlet
we are not in the 17th century anymore sweetie, this is how capitalism works now
Whiter than you, mohammed
good for brazil and europe bad for argentina
>bad for argentina
Why? EU is your largest meat importer
Is TTIP the other way around
Figure it out
For matters like this, it's always the opposite of what Jow Forums says
All tastes the same in burgers and meatballs.
Good for Brazil, bad for everyone else. Brazil will triple the economic earnings with exports of soy and other products to european faggots and win reductions in taxes and tariffs of european imports such as wine, cheese, german cars, and clothing (gucci, prada and other shit)
>getting cheap products in a protectionist country
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I'm redpilled.
you have to use EU food regulations tho and open up your market to EU imports
It's a very good and important deal, because Mercosur had 4 times the tariffs Japan had and never really opened its market before. Really shows what the EU can do
Are we FINALLY going to be first world? Can't wait.
>good for brazil
The average brazilian cant afford the luxuries you posted and most brazilian producers cant abide by the health standards pushed by the EU due to geography alone in terms of food preparation. Why are Bolsonaro supporters so fucking stupid?
"Pour me a cup, bitch."
what about you open the nalgas and receive my feed and seed?
How you tarriff free trade?
This is going to destroy the Brazilian economy, which is a good thing.
Things like food standards or quality control on industrial products may improve in Brazil as a side-effect of dealing with the EU
en.wikipedia.org
>common food like wine and cheese are considered luxuries in leafland
Did you read what I wrote? It's reduction of tariffs for us.
>The average brazilian cant afford the luxuries you posted
If you're from the middle class you can. And with the new pension and tax reform, it will lead to low interest rates and higher FDI(Foreign Direct Investment) which will translate to people being able to buy luxuries.
k then
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>The average brazilian cant afford the luxuries you posted
True. :c
> most brazilian producers cant abide by the health standards pushed by the EU due to geography alone in terms of food preparation.
False.
Good for Germany
Wine and cheese becomes cheaper meaning more people will be able to afford them.
Yes, German wins, everyone else loses.
You are producing food for 400 million people how wouldnt you profit from this, in fact food production is the one thing were you can compete globally and all farmers here are already crying
No offense but this is absolutely the case for your beef and agricultural products.
Foreign brands in brazil? Absolutely.
This reads painfully like a retread of the same fact devoid speculation Macri supporters used.
Why hasn't USA made a hissy fit yet
why would you want to pay for shti thats cheaper in brazil than in europe?
cheapest pack of wine is 1€ in Spain (almost 5 reais)
good
swap the position of the bottom two quotes for my post to make sense.
Brazil produces enough food to feed its population 4 times over, we don't need euro food.
no
its just an attempt for companies to fuck us over by either flooding our market with cheap shit or delocalize to those countries
good for Germany, bad for Spain. poor people whose jobs are in the agriculture sector especially in Murcia and andalusia
The agreement's details are not even ready yet, but in theory this will kill the industry in Latin America and make us even more dependent on American technologies anyway, so it still a win-win, American companies might even return their factories to the USA, which is exactly what Trump wants.
but what about chile?????
based fuck those leeching andaloosers who rely on slavelabor but vote vox
Chile is white and first world already. They don't need trade deals.
Those farmer fucks, who literally let tons and tons of food rot when they can't export it instead of selling it internally, will earn like 5% more while the rest of our dying car/food/cloth industry dies for good
EU VIetnam FTA was also signed yesterday
For whoever might care south america is divided in the chad and economically successful libertarian Pacific Alliance and the sinking ship which was Mercosur, however all the countries which used to be left wing transitioned into more fiscally aware and economically literate goverments in the last election cicle, so they might do better now, however i am not that optimistic specially with argentina whichs economy is on the floor right now, perhaps these new alliances will become a success and we finally merge Pacific Alliance, develop a common market and possibly even unify our currencies
Meanwhile we will keep laughing at the mercotards
It has roughly the population of Germany.
Not quite as big a deal as Japan and not nearly as big as MERCOSUR, but still a big deal. Depressing this sort of thing doesn't get more atention.
baste
you live in the biggest shithole, youre not allowed to laugh at anybody
it was in news here because 1% of czech population is vietnamese so we have very good connections there
55th post best post
Seething mercotard lmao
m8 your argriculture sector is over 60% of your economy, this is good for you. You can use the surplus capital to invest in other sectors and maybe this will even finally stabilize your currency
Mercotards will win once brazil and Argentina can get their shit together for 15 years
so who next bois?
Argentina is the second least shitty country in Latin America in almost anything. If anything, they'd get on other countries' level of shittiness, But thinking about how they could depend on our economy to survive, the second largest in the whole southern hemisphere, makes my peepee hard.
>the largest
Fix'd.
amerikkka btfo
Bad more german car exported and more shit imported for vassals
Trade is not a zero-sum game. Both parties win when conducting free trade. The net economic gain will be positive to both blocks. One of the things that sadden me the most about my country is the sheer ignorance regarding the importance of trade. We've lobbied to hell and back by the local "industrialists" that we still consider archaic concepts such as "autarky" and "mercantilism" as actual relevant concepts. I hope we sign free trade agreements with everyone. We (consumers) pay over 5 times the international price of clothes to hold an unsustainable "industry" of clothing that is basically sodomizing the local consumers.
Rant over. Please trade with my country, thank you.
Time will tell, however Argentinas former quality of life does not justify its utter precarious current state, i hope they get their shit together but its beyond me why argies are still in mercosur with their current state, its like they would rather become a vassal state than reorganize their economy
can we trust you with food safety?
Those are exports, not "the economy".
Please understand, for us its the same thing.
We've had a free trade agreement with the EU for at least a decade macaco
Based. Mercosur is a fucking failed shithole
>Sneed (Chuck) Seed
what?
en.wikipedia.org
oh wew, didn't realize EU countries were 50% trade for their economy
save for Paraguay, a drop on the water that is Mercosur, all other 3 members are way below the world average
gib cuadril
over 50%*
free trade that benefits USA = good
free trade that benefits someone else = bad
The EU is literally unstoppable
Why do Brazilians think that the rest of Latin America is like their failed socialist protectionist shithole. Colombia has a free trade deal with the EU since 2013
dinero.com
Is a trade deal with the EU the new “first world criteria” now?
Would this help them overcome the middle income trap?
> Luxembourg
>230.0 %
i didn't know that was possible... they must import a lot
HEMISPHERIC
COMMON
MARKET
Considering the fact that autocratic shitholes like china, usa and russia don't have one then yeah.
Must be because luxembourg produces nothing outside the services and financial sectors
same here. southern euro does not need to import food, just unusual stuff like tropical fruits. you probably will benefit more from this than we will in terms of gdp. but on the otherhand we will probably havve cheaper fruits and stuff which even if not necessary are increasingly requested here. so it s a good thing for both
not really
Luxembourg is meme, most people working there are commuting from other countries
all Pacific Alliance members had trade deals with the EU even before the alliance was formed, I don't get why they make it such a huge deal, oh surprise you are no longer protectionist and now want to play international market woah
It will destroy my country's economy once and for all, which is a good thing. We can finally brag about being culturally enriched by Europe again.
Dude they recognised a ton of DOC food. We are about to flood their elite with Chianti and Parmigiano
big part of that agreement is automotive industry
they will be flooded with EU cars, which is amazing for us
yeah, we could boost our numbers by 10000% if we send back and forth a rock I found on the garden if we agree that it's worth a few million dollars
the world bank and img warn that there's a lot of tax havens out there end up over represented because of that
you have to ignore the meme countries and focus on ones with some complexity to their economies
what makes you think that
look at this uneven deal (Were I a vietnamese I'd hang every single one of the politicians who signed that)
It's kinda the same case for Argentina
We have harvest season at exactly opposite ends because we're an hemisphere apart. That alone means you can find stuff off season you shouldn't be able to grow in Europe unless you have super cheap greenhouses everywhere.
There are car manufacturers here already. And they get to pay shitty South American wages for the same job an Euro would ask more for.
Access to the EU means having access to the biggest market in the world, of course you have to make some compromises