What is German "Gymnasium" equivalent to if you compare it to something in the US?

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Im not sure but i wish i went through a school system like in germany, or maybe most of EU is similar. from what ive heard they specialize earlier and so in the bachelors they dont have to take shitty art and english electives which makes it 3 years for a degree vs 4. Also heard that as long as you pass the high school equivalent then you can enter any university in the country. Maybe i dont have the full picture and im not sure how many of the euro countries are actually like this but it sounds based

our school system is rather complicated
we have 3 types of high schools:
1. Hauptschule (for the turks)
2. Realschule (for the dumber germans)
3. Gymnasium (for the less dumb germans)

High school, but without being bullied into suicide/mass shooting and also with actual education (including basic calculus).

We used to have a similar system but they called it racist and ended it because all the blacks ended up in the lower schools.

There is a "Numerus clausus" on some subjects, meaning that you can only study it if you got good grades or be put on a waiting list for at least half a year.

unlike you germans have equal chances while you racist pricks actively bully negros
eat shit subhuman

There's also Gesamtschule which tries to combine the 3, with rather moderate results

Don't you have vocational school or trade schools what ever they're called there? Here you go to gymnasium(high school) or vocational school after 9th grade.

Maybe 20 years ago.

not him but yeah, usually people do it after high school (graduate hs at ~17-19), but im not sure if a high school degree is necessarily required. I think most high schools have wood working and metal working classes you can take to sort of prepare for that path, but nothing for plumber, electrician, etc. at least not at the high school i went to

High retard school

We used to have gimnazjum a few years back. It's 3-years long school between 6-years old primary school and 3 years-old high school. Secondary school, I guess. Now it's gone, but primary school and high school are longer.

plenty of people take calculus (1, 2, and/or 3) in high school though, but algebra 2 is all that is required for graduating so most people just do up to that as they either go to uni for a non stem degree or dont even go to uni after graduating high school. Would people in a realschule or hauptschule, or even people in something like art, history, other non stem paths really have to take calculus there?

Well smart high school
Ours is basically realschule unless u in advanced class

do germanes real have jizznamiums

Not nearly as much as negroes bully whites. The oppressed American negro is 90% meme.

In Sweden, there's 2 year schools to learn trades but also trade programs in high school for most trades

>Grundschule = elementary school (grades 1-4)
Then you get decided which kind of standard of education fits you best
>Sonderschule
Pretty much a school for drooling retards, don’t even know if they retired it
>Hauptschule
school for migrants and children that society has given up upon
>Waldorfschule
Private school for drooling retardant with rich parents
>Gesamtschule
Which is a mix between all systems and IMO the best version of all of them
>Realschule
Your average school for average person
>Gymnasium
Depends on your city but usually it’s for smarter children or children who’s parents are influential in the city.
those are the options for middle school (grades 5-10, in special cases even only 9)
Then we have Highschool which we call “Abitur” and it’s divided into
>Abitur
Usually in a Gesamtschule or Gymnasium and it’s the version you’d want to have if you want to go to university
>Fachabitur
You go to a vocational school and learn a more hands on version of the Abitur which can be sometimes combined with the trait you’re learning

Are waldorf-schools also extreme-left in Germany? I taught at a swedish waldorf-school until recently and it was pretty bad

We have gymnasium too though it's atheneum + latin/Greek and compulsory ancient cultural studies.
People that go to gymnasium rather than atheneum are considered utter cunts

Don’t know I can only judge from my local “Waldorf” school and people usually make fun of it because the only thing you’ll learn there is to dance your name and nothing else, which describes those schools very well. But it’s a free Realschulabschluss and maybe if you’re one of the overbearing parents who wants their children to become a concert pianist for example you’ll send them there so they can train their piano skills instead of learning about history, languages and maths (which is a really stupid idea IMO but you know how people are)

Le lycée

Sounds an awful lot like the Netherlands including private schools for drooling retards of rich parents that still believe they can become lawyers.
Also I went to a gesamtschule and it was the best. Of course sometimes the immigrants and Kevins from our hauptschule were annoying but on the other hand our realschule has all the hot girls so that was good

>You go to a vocational school and learn a more hands on version of the Abitur which can be sometimes combined with the trait you’re learning

Is it here the "doctor" step ?

I think the most I probably part about Gesamtschule is that you’re meeting people from all social hierarchies and you learn more social finesse instead of being stuck in a fart sniffing circlejerk.
You mean with doctor step something like a P.h.D like in the states? If so no it’s Highschool after you finished middle school and went directly into a so called “Ausbildung” which is learning a trait but isn’t reduced to blue collar profession but also white collar professions like being a salesman or accountant

Yeah that's the whole point of those schools.
If you ever meet (ex)pupils from city gymnasiums you will notice they have no fucking clue how the outside world is.

Yeah I know german lawyers/accountant fancy being called "Doctor".

I wish a german flag asked this, I already know their system but the us system interests me the most. There is calculus in us highschool I have seen it on instagram’s homework tags before but I have a hard time to believe you guys work in systems where a degree is just as much valuable is everyone else’s degree.

They take a SAT which determines everything I think

Oh yeah das rite thnx anone

Come over and I'll show you ;)

Why do you think Gesamtschule is the best? Just curious, I was on a Realschule and went to a Gesamtschule to get my Abi but I feel like I should've went to the local Gymnasium instead.

Exactly, it even got worse since we reduced our Abitur on 2 years in gymnasiums and now you have 17 year olds who never in their life held a screwdriver studying engineering.
Yes, I think it’s more appropriate than just putting a PhD behind your name. Also you have the Right to be called And written as Magister in Austria after finishing your masters

Do you actually learn anything valuable in school?
The only thing i learned there was german and i forgot a big chunk of it already.
I feel fucking useless even after uni.

Its like american highschool but every subject is on the level of college in the US.
You take a major in everything for like 4 semester basically.

Sure, I learned plenty of things. I had a psychology course, that was really dope. That and English were my favourites, also cause the teacher was cool and hot (thicc lady with glasses and great humour). German was the subject I learned the least in honestly

I had very nice history and geography class. Liked it a lot
Not to mention I started working with accounting like balances which I need for my studies and work

That's false, Waldorf schools are rather like Gesamtschulen, you can do Abitur, Fachabitur and Realschulabschluss there. Also their curriculum only differs from the curriculum in normal schools in the first few years. I went to a Waldorf school and turned out just fine, I am currently in the process of finishing my PhD in mathematics.

I feel like if you go to a gymnasium you will become some Sören or like that I don't believe in borders guy

yeah, no
Gymnasium is just the highest level of secondary education

Well thats nice, i bet you can even live a comfy life over there and have a decent job without ever attending universities or higher education.

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How so no? All those climate agreement strikers come from our inner city gymnasiums

In France it's basically the same, instead of "mister" "miss" it's doctor. Didn't kniw this for austria though, "magister" sounds really badass.

Magister Erik Stark

>What is German "Gymnasium" equivalent to if you compare it to something in the US?

It corresponds to an American high school + one year of general courses in college.

We have everyone in the same school but people for the most part pick their own pace. The main exception is you need to take english all four years, and then math, science, and history for at least 3. For something like 11th grade english you might have three levels of students from english 11, to english 11A, to english 11AP. AP is the highest and if you get a good score on the standarized AP test then you can get college credit for a much cheaper price than the corresponding college course. There are many subjects for the AP courses (pic related) but most schools wont offer all those subjects, except maybe a rich private school that can get teachers for them all. The history, science, english, CS, and math AP courses are usually offered at any high school. The rest are just dependent on the individual school. You could just self study and take the test as well if the high school doesnt have a class.
Universities look at the courses you take, your grades throughout high school (GPA), and SAT or ACT test scores to determine whether you are admitted. Someone with perfect grades that only took the easiest classes will probably not be viewed as highly as someone that took most AP classes and has a little lower grades. On top of this some unis look at involvement in clubs, volunteering, internships, etc

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There are too many factors that come to play to generalize like this, I simply think that you can learn the basics anywhere, but what’s more important is social competence that you learn from interacting with people form different strokes of life
That’s why I said that I can only judge from my local Waldorf which is basically filled with special ed children.

I dunno about inner city gymnasia, but I was in a rural gymnasium and ended up more on the ronny side of the spectrum. I learned a lot from all the stem lessons, history and English. :^)

I wouldn't know I'm 27 and have been in uni for 7 years now cause I've become useless lmao

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The Gymnasium I went to until 2017 wasn't politicized at all

Waldorf schools are founded on the beliefs of some esoteric retard and has a lot of hippy parents or children who are to stupid for normal schools like all privates

Like a superior high school

No its true. Its just highschool for people that arent retarded. The last 3 years of it are for university preperation, you get your Abitur wich is required to go to uni.

I guess that's why I didn't really like it, I'm literally autistic and will always suck at social competence so it probably wouldn't have mattered for me

If I would stereotype people from those gymnasiums vs gesamtschule the first ones are much more inclined to be either left wing weirdos or annoyingly smug posh kids

People on those schools learn to dance their name.

nor are they here, the ony connecting factor between gymnasium students is that they did wel in elementary school. there's probably some expensive private ones in places like inner city amsterdam that are more homogenous but i reckon they are actually more conservative and (classically) liberal than left leaning. poster above is probably salty that he had to do havo

Thats a myth, waldorf schools are very educational, its just the anti authority thing that and the other stuff ontop of media shilling against them that makes them look much worse than they are

I did atheneum and after meeting my peers from places like Luzac and Praedinus gymnasium I can safely say the latter were distinctly more weird than the people I went to school with in my openbare scholengemeenschap

>>Realschule
>Your average school for average person
heh. here the realschule is the cream of the crop with advanced maths and science classes (think MIT graduate level). also, gymnasium is just the last 3 years of basic education with abiturium being the very last year when you're declared an abiturient.
t. realschule faggot

>luzac
there's your problem
also groningen is possibly the most leftist city in the country

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Sorry, I can't understand that. Could you dance it for me?
I had to dance this post to my sister, so she could write it.

Here in swiss zerland it's like this:
>Primary School
6 grades, you start there at the age of 7 or 8. Everyone is bunched together, but there are special "educational units" within the school itself to take care of the especially drooling retards. At the end of the 6th grade, your grades decide what type of "sekundarbildung" (Secodary Education) you'll get.
If you're one of the smarter kids, you can take the Gymiprüfung, and if you pass you can then attend Gymnasium, which is the only way to complete your Matur (that's something like your finals).
You need to pass the Matur if you ever want to attend a University.
There are three levels to secondary education here:
>Sek C
Absolute drooling retards and albanians go here
>Sek B
More of the same really
>Sek A
Most normies go here.
The thing about the Sekundarschulen is that you will actively start to learn a trade after you second year there. You get a paid internship and everything.

How would you know?

>The thing about the Sekundarschulen is that you will actively start to learn a trade after you second year there. You get a paid internship and everything.
That sounds dope

Best post by an American flag ever. Thanks for the information!

Yeah it works very well most of the time. Of course this is quite a big decision to make as a 15 year old teenager, so there are always people who regret their decisions.
I forgot to mention that you can, after those two years, try and take the Gymiprüfung again if you want to.

Isn’t that basically Fachabi + Ausbildung / duales Studium ?

>your grades throughout high school (GPA)
Whew good thing I wasn't born in America.

Luzac? Almost nobody sane goes to Luzac. Dude stop shitting. All they worry about is their luxurious vacations they have there and I wish I was shitposting. There’s no proof but I am a 600000% sure they falsify school exams for some students and for the rest most still struggle despite being on easy mode.
t. My mom wanted me there but I noped the fuck out

Duales Studium is dope too. I wish I had done that but I heard it was a lot of work so I decided against it. I wish I knew better, I was dumb as fuck as a 18 year old

i mean it is pretty easy shit though, i showed up and played games on my phone through most classes and still was rank 6 out of 350 students in my grade kek. The AP classes at my school seemed the same difficulty to me so i just took them as they give bonus GPA points (weighted GPA), but unis still want unweighted GPA, or gpa without factoring bonus points like that. Also even if you just took the bonehead level classes, you could just study hard for the SAT and ace it to get a scholarship to good unis, not stanford, MIT, etc tier, but still good

Realschule there is like secondary school still but is MIT graduate level? if that is the case what do you do in university classes?

I bet that being the most useless german in germany can still land you between 5k and 10k a month.

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for different reasons i went to a lot of schools and unis:
>2x realschule
>2x gesamtschule
>1x Gymnasium
>1x university
>2x Technische Hochschule (University of Applied Sciences)

from my experience i can say that Realschule is filled with lowest class germans and turks and kurds. We had fights every week.
Gymnasium and university is filled with rich arrogant lefties who think they are above the world, those are the types of people who go to a vacation in syria to get beheaded because they are totally removed from reality.
Gesamtschule and Technische Hochschule are fine, just average people in general who arent obnoxious

It depends on your standarts, living costs can be a real joke in some places so minimum wage can be enought to cover it while still having money left at the end of the month.

There is also this thing called Ausbildung where companies hire people without further education and teach them the practical stuff, theory is taught at a school and you get a wage for this.

>Ausbildung
Yeah thats pretty cool, nothing identical here though.
The thing im applying for right now is some shitty outsourced tech support centre/call center.
But it pays more than double what the branch im qualified for (tourism) and i'll get some shitty training and pretend to be nice to people.
I doubt that they'd hire me with my shitty b2 level but if they're short on staff which they always are i'd still have a chance.

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Gymnasium back then, especially the last 2 years of it was there to prepare you for university.

So the US equivalent would be HS + entrance exam + first several courses of your college/uni life.

Does this mean OP's GF would be underaged in America?

You're usually 18 or 19 when you finish abitur so yeah probably unless she had to repeat a year.