So now that everything is breaking down and CSW is going to hard fork, Ver is being crazy trying to get into other projects and Jihan is losing his shit as his IPO crumbles what is going to happen with BCH?
There is going to be an obvious split as CSW has shills and Jihan has his shills. I'm really curious to see what the landscape is going to be as it dies.
I've been saying for a while that bcash will in historical terms be viewed as a failed attack on bitcoin.
David Campbell
Its really strange to see a lack of BCH shilling currently. Ever since the whole CSW thing the shill has died down and they don't really acknowledge these threads.
Carter Moore
it's not strange at all. none of those threads were real supporters being enthusiastic. it was all astroturfing.
Samuel Johnson
I'm aware of that it is just strange to have that simple confirmation of them all stopping at once and awaiting orders on how to shill it around the current situation.
Jacob Kelly
Who do you think controls them? I assume it's either Roger or Jihan.
Caleb Foster
You guys are retarded, two morons talking to each other.
Jonathan King
Lets settle this. So is it Jihan, Ver or CSW that pays you?
Ryan Gutierrez
looks like Shareblue have an interest in crypto and decided to shill to hold the statusquo, eh? you're as insufferable as hillbots were in 2016. Enjoy your scalability and your overloaded mempool once BTC gets used like Satoshi intended.
I say again assuming BCH is Bitcoin which is the real Bitcoin cash?
Is it the CSW backed Bitcoin SV or the Jihan backed Bitcoin Cash?
Aiden Ward
ah yes the good old tactic or trying to flip everything into "hillary vs trump" truly pathetic but if that's how you intend to get dumb ass rthedonald refugees to buy your shitcoin then go ahead
Jason Morgan
2 (You)'s within the minute, jesus christ. How much are you paid to defend BlockStreamCoin?
wait, CSW wants to fork off of BCH? what the fuck? havent followed bitcoin drama for a few months. please do inform
Angel Ross
Its a really simple question which I don't think you can answer. Assuming that you are correct and BCH is Bitcoin which is the real BCH? CSW backed or Jihan backed.
It is a supremely simple question which I don't think you are allowed to answer.
Colton Wood
It's funny seeing the one or two poor souls who weren't paid at all, who are delusional enough to shill this rubbish on their own.
Justin Smith
also is BTC still a trainwreck with lightning network hopelessly broken and a devteam too frightened to do anything about it?
Juan Kelly
Yeah. CSW wants to hard-fork BCH and is now attacking Jihan on twitter and yes BTC is still a clusterfuck and will always be.
Easton Morgan
but BCH is already practically a dead project... hard forking a dead project has that much less of a chance of surviving. what the fuck is he thinking?
Benjamin Murphy
also what would the hard fork change? ie what's the point of contention between him and jihan? and if the two major mining blocs split up and each project only has one mining bloc behind it... um, this is retarded
Noah Perez
>What the fuck is he thinking Thus the thread. It is doubly a fucked situation because Jihan is kind of losing his mind about Bitmain being at such a loss after selling all their BTC for BCH when it was $900 and then lying about who was interested in their IPO.
There is just a storm of shit happening with BCH right now.
Ryder Robinson
so why does csw want to fork
Austin Fisher
bevause he wants nchain in control and patents on everything whereas others don't
Angel Cox
>10 posts by this ID
keep shilling against the real bitcoin. repent now, we might have some mercy towards non-believers.
csw want to scale up to 128mb while bitcoin abc want to screw around making little shit changes like core
Hunter Cooper
Craig really is Satoshi. He was sent on a deepcover mission to remove bitmain from dominance. Bcash was the dummy for crypto project mincemeat.
Daniel Johnson
>o provide a clear BCH implementation choice for miners who support Bitcoin’s original vision, over implementations that seek to make unnecessary changes to the original Bitcoin protocol >128MB blocks And control naturally.
How strange of me posting in my own thread you act like an absolute kike and refuse to answer even simple questions like which BCH is the real BCH.
Benjamin Lopez
lol but he can hardly even fill a small fraction of the blocks they have now and its not the lack of block size that's preventing adoption. fucking deluded
Kevin Anderson
lack of transactions currently has nothing to do with the future. there are applications and businesses that wont even bother with 32mb blocks because they would fill the network singlehandedly and then some.
Charles Price
There's going to be no hard fork you fucking buffoons, if anyone forks it'll be the sole french developer, a Bogdanoffs plant obviously
Isaac Hughes
Which ever has the most mining consensus at the fork (jihan obviously) will be considered the "real" bitcoin by cashie logic. Even if csw is satoshi (he isnt) it is irrelevant because btc is governed by mining consensus not token holder ideals and that includes satoshi.
Blake Thomas
I can sort of see CSWs point, Jihan wants to add a bunch of eth style stuff and 1 minute blocks in the hope of turning BCH into some sort of ICO platform so he can exit scam his huge BCH bags. CSW just wants to follow the whitepaper as if it's a religious text with no changes ever, which is what most BCH supporters say they want.
Blake Williams
Stop being a drama queen. Who cares? Maybe it's all a show to keep the uninitiated in the dark. You see disagreement on social media and wherever else, but I assure you things are going as planned.
CSW can't be beat. It's becoming a predictable market, almost. People don't like the idea of power, but he just can't be beat. If it splits, Satoshi's vision, I mean CSW's, will still win.
There is one easy way around this all and people don't realize or understand the actual agenda.
Hint: the block cap will be removed completely... sooner than you think. A lot sooner.
Easton Stewart
bcash jihan wants to go towards PoS bcash craig wants to go to 128mb blocks
I think he is currently shilling VeChain but he probably supports both.
Carson Sanchez
is there a plan on how vechain would protect itself against miner attacks? splitting bcash and keeping it on SHA-256 is super risky it's also why I think jihan wants to move towards PoS
Daniel Wright
no fork planned just some discussion among the different groups, unlike core with the dictator greg maxwell silencing any opposing views.
CSW is saying Jihan wants to shorten the block time to one minute to help his new project Wormhole and some other back and forth but like poster above only real opposition is from peter rizun
Brody Nelson
I don't know much about Vechain. But based on what I do know it is super centralized. There are 101 nodes which do all the mining and they are all companies. There isn't really a chance of a miner attack.
Robert Adams
oh I confused vechain with nchain my bad
Christian Sanders
>no fork planned just some discussion among the different groups, unlike core with the dictator greg maxwell silencing any opposing views. kek CSW is trying to scuttle the bitmain pre IPO funding deal, interesting "discussion".
Elijah Lopez
Why would jihan want POS?
Caleb Rogers
whats the deal with blacknet?
Angel Reed
Jihan sells miners, why does he want pos? Is he retarded or just parroting what the Chinese leadership want?
>Jihan sells miners, why does he want pos? Is he retarded or just parroting what the Chinese leadership want? If he owns 10% of all bcash of course hes going to want PoS, if he had flipped BTC and moved to PoS he could probably get around 30% or more of all block rewards and fees for eternity while not incurring power or production costs that come with PoW.
Mason Carter
jihan holds over 1 million bcash he single handily has to waste his miners to secure this shitcoin and his 1 million bcash liability it would be easier for him to control it through PoS while directing the rest of the miners to bitcoin
Sebastian Rodriguez
That dogshit is getting expensive to maintain.
Kek, the scammers and greedy faggots are taking care of each other.
Meanwhile, BTC strides onwards.
Juan Perez
More people need to see this
Easton Russell
Corecucks need gas. BCH threads are created regularly and mostly by Blockstream's pajeets in some vain attempt to scare people away when in reality it just brings Bitcoin (BCH) to the forefront of peoples thoughts, so hopefully a few retards on this forum posting in scamlink threads are instead more aware of the real Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash.
Having said that, Bitcoin (BCH) bulls may be quiet but we're definitely still here, how the fuck could you not be bullish on the real Bitcoin.
BTC will never be used as intended. It had it's chance to increase the blocksize to reduce those fucking absurd fees and transaction times in December, they didn't do it and scared normie adoption away (obviously fucking on purpose, Blockstream want to kill Bitcoin, not ensure it's (((decentralization))))
Bitcoin Cash is quite literally the future of Bitcoin, it has been for over a year now.
Jayden Garcia
>The real Bitcoin Would that be Bitcoin(Bitcoin Cash) or Bitcoin(Bitcoin SV) that is the real Bitcoin?
Jack Allen
BTC has literally done nothing since segshit, not a fucking thing.
I can't take people who call Bitcoin Cash by their kikestream master's propaganda plug seriously, you are either deluded or paid to shitpost about the real Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash.
Cameron Peterson
SV is a new client maintained by Nchain, it isn't a currency you fucking idiot.
Christian Gomez
this isn't rthedonald, spamming shitty memes won't fool anyone to buy your bags
dear reddit jew, please fuck off back to beeeecash HQ
Oliver Reed
BCH is about to find out why a one-block difficulty adjustment is weak and retarded
Brayden Sullivan
>blockstream's pajeets what the fuck do you call this?-
Asher Gonzalez
200k in feb
Evan Harris
russians and chinese always fall back to their socialist oligarchic bullshit
blockchair dev vitalik jihan
all coming up with stupid ideas
and don't get me started on the french
Jacob Brooks
when did the french come up with a brilliant idea?
Isaac Russell
What the hell are you smoking
Luis Rogers
CSW has been saying all along that PoS is only beneficial for wealthy rent seekers, and it sounds like Jihan is proving him right. It's also a rational from Jihan's perspective to try to achieve it, although I don't see how that wouldn't require its own hard fork. Bitmain's P&L must look like babby's dirty diaper right now.
Brandon Taylor
Should i convert my bch to btc? This shit is getting ridiculous
Gabriel Wilson
Jihan wants total control. By forking off every opponent and dumping for his chain, he's slowly gaining power. How much Bitmain cash will that chink have once he dumps Bitcoin Craig? We know it'll be more than a million already. No wonder he wants to implement some sort of PoS into his chink coin.
Bentley Brooks
>By forking off every opponent and dumping for his chain, he's slowly gaining power. he's actually losing power
William Davis
If CSW and possibly also Ver abandon BCH that leaves just Jihan, who now has a large stake in a project that in which he's the only major community figure. A project which no one is actually using, and which Jihan lacks the ability to drive adoption because he's an aspie awkward Chinese fellow. Let's not even get into the fact that he'll and by proxy the Chinese state governor will probably now control all the mining power. But if Jihan wants to switch to PoS that will be its own hard fork and will kill legacy BCH as well as this new shitcoin that Jihan will create.
Levi Nelson
And miss on Bitcoin SV airdrop? No way man!
Nathan Flores
Why am I seeing more discussion recently about adding transaction ordering to the consensus rules?
BTW as an aside it's unfortunate that the person backing the fork is CSW since he's such a toxic personality and fucking asshole. Are there any other people of lesser stature that would go song with the plan? Vin Armani used to like Craig until their falling out, Rizun hates him, EGS hates him. I don't think any 'serious' researchers can stand him. How can CSW possibly achieve adoption alone?
Jordan Walker
cringiest shit I’ve seen on here today thnx
Ian Lewis
If csw wins it's the end of bch
Jayden Hughes
>Jihan wants to add a bunch of eth style stuff and 1 minute blocks in the hope of turning BCH into ...something that's actually adopted Bch has no future as it is now. They have to either go the smart contract way, anonymous way, or both. Nobody needs a dumb currency coin. The 10 minute block time is also way too long, 0conf requires trust in the miners to be safe
Nathan Price
This is hilarious as fuck.
Dylan Ward
It's not even 10 minutes, it took 46 minutes for my transaction to be confirmed on BCH network. BTC took 50 minutes. If BCH thinks it can outcompete Bitcoin with 4 minutes faster confirmation they're deluded as fuck. Not to mention that Jihan holds 5% of the BCH supply, I really can't think of a better reason to never touch this shit ever. Let BCH go to 0$ and let Bitmain go bankrupt. Fucking idiot that he is.
Robert Sanders
That 4 minutes is variance. Eth has pow and works with 14.7s block time, there's zero reason to keep 10 minutes
Wisdom and better understanding of how to scale a protocol.
Jason Gray
>How come everyone was in favor of removing the 1mb limit years ago as opposed to now? Less people around, easier to form consensus. Chinese miners destroyed initial plans for larger blocks because they wanted higher fees but claimed their internet was too slow for 1mb+. So they worked on segwit and other scaling options, then when Jihan realized segwit broke ASICboost and keeping the blocks small didn't end up making him money he chimped out and demanded all segwit work be halted and they increase block size for him. When he didn't instantly get his way the threats and network spam started, I think a large amount of resistance to larger blocks is because people didn't want to capitulate to Jihans threats, its like rewarding an animal for biting you. If bitmain is destroyed and made an example of you might see less objections to larger blocks, though it's unknown if it's even needed right now, the bulk of 2017 TX may have been Jihan spam.
Ayden Davis
Which "real bitcoin"? Craig cash or Jihan cash?
Matthew Davis
Interesting, thanks fren
Liam Walker
Increasing block size limit as a scaling solution is retarded. It's not socially scalable, it will always be an attack vector that can be used to split the community.
Removing the limit altogether isn't feasible either as it opens the network to spam and boundless centralization.
A better solution is to increase the network's efficiency and maybe at some point come up with a dynamic block limit everyone can agree to fork into *once*.
Julian Gomez
There are neither, just Bitcoin. There won't be a major split like last time.
ALSO all this nonsense about them changing to POS and the blocktime is PURE fucking LIES but throw all your money on the wrong horse (BTC) all you like
Henry Hughes
>bcash late adopters crying about a split oh the irony