How do Muslim societies grapple with the idea that Neanderthals and Denisovans existed once upon a time...

Al-jahiz:
>In sum, no animal can survive without nourishment. The hunting animal cannot escape being hunted. Every weak animal devours those that are weaker; every strong animal cannot avoid being consumed by those that are stronger.... God, in sum, made some beings the cause of life to others, and in turn made these the cause of death to yet others.
Ibn Khalidun
>In sum, no animal can survive without nourishment. The hunting animal cannot escape being hunted. Every weak animal devours those that are weaker; every strong animal cannot avoid being consumed by those that are stronger.... God, in sum, made some beings the cause of life to others, and in turn made these the cause of death to yet others.

Hold on though
Allah created Adam and is the father of all humans
Evidence of a species before humans emerges
Hum Adam is father of hat species too
Yeah but that species was basically retarded like monkeys
Adam should then have he intelligence of a monkey
But hes supposed to be

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Fascinating. American Protestantism truly is idiotic by comparison.

A prophet

Didnt say that, protestants have contributed much much more in terms of scientific discoveries

Meant to put this for khaldun
>creation ... started out from the minerals and progressed, in an ingenious, gradual manner, to plants and animals. The last stage of minerals is connected with the first stage of plants, such as herbs and seedless plants. The last stage of plants, such as palms and vines, is connected with the first stage of animals, such as snails and shellfish ... the last stage of each group is fully prepared to become the first stage of the next group.
Those were subhuman hominids
There’s a verse in the Quran where the angels say that allah’s previous creations on earth spread bloodshed.

This does not explain the paracas skulls.

>say that allah’s previous creations on earth spread bloodshed.
there was a mistake?

Good there's a verse that says God's previous creation shed blood but those creations had the mental capacities of monkey and the archeological findings prove it because of their rudimentary shelters, vagrant lifestyle and thy did nothing of note. And adam is their father so hes even 50k more years behind so hes even more rerarded. But Adam is Allah's prophet.

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Surely the Creator of the Universe can make no mistakes.

>إلا
>not إلى

mental gymnastics: the thread

No mistakes in allah’s plan.
Bad people/creatures exist.
I just double checked the verse. I quoted it wrong, it’s says this
>When your Lord said to the angels, "I am placing a successor on earth." They said, "Will You place in it someone who will cause corruption in it and shed blood, while we declare Your praises and sanctify You?" He said, "I know what you do not know."
And I’m really ignorant of early hominids or proto-hominids but idk if we know enough about them to know if what you’re saying is true or not.

There were other hybrid humanoid creates on the planet, but they got wiped out in the flood. Noah (pbuh) and his family got saved because of his pure human bloodline from both Adam and Eve. Some say that maybe the wives of his sons had tainted blood in them and that this continues to this day, except that these hybrids are more intermixed with humans so you cant really tell them apart, i'm sure they are still spreading corruption though.

The "fallen angels" as the Christians refer to them as were in fact what the Muslims refer to as djinn. They intermixed with women and they gave birth to the creators of all the megalithic societies we find remnants of throughout the world.

All of this is conjecture though
How do you even know if the flood was global? How do you know noah’s Family was pure? Also noah’s followers were saved too, how do you know they were pure?

Why did God genocide the dinosaurs?

Islam is retarded. Jews and Christians called Muhammad the ear. They told him shit and he believed it.

Half of the Quran is telling Christians and Jews that they got it wrong though

they got uppity and had to be cut down to size

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For me, it’s the aquatic ape theory.

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Watch some Acts 17 Apologetics. Learning the Quaran, Hadith and Bukhari shit contradictions is fun

t. apostate

sounds like a complete waste of time

I stopped watching that dude when he dressed as a tranny.
I just watch his debates every now and then. I don’t think he’s very convincing, his entire thing is basically not defending the trinity or Christian doctrine but instead saying that tawheed doesn’t make sense either, but he’s dead wrong on that.

I'm free because of it

What exact argument(s) of his do you find convincing?

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David Wood is the bane of Islam. Truth is better

Thats not an argument.

Okay Stefan

Whatever you say Nigel

God bless you

Wa ‘alayka as-salam.

I always wanted to learn more about Islam not going to lie.

The Quran is short enough to read in a long weekend. You should research world religions (especially Islam because it’s truth :^)) before you die and you never know when you’re going to die.

Well I have enough of a rudimentary knowledge of Islam, but I disagree with the fact that he thinks that Jesus isn't the son of God desu.

Oh I see. Well in Islamic thought it’s bad to think that God took a son but Christians are still often seen as closer to Muslims than other abrahamic groups because you guys accept Jesus as the messiah whereas the Jews tried to kill him.
>You will surely find the most intense of the people in animosity toward the believers [to be] the Jews and those who associate others with Allah ; and you will find the nearest of them in affection to the believers those who say, "We are Christians." That is because among them are priests and monks and because they are not arrogant.

I don't know, I just disagree with the Islamic thought about that. It's a nice religion but I like my Christianity better, it has more mystical stuff.
I like sufism though, that stuff is nice.

>I like sufism though, that stuff is nice.
The whole getting high, listening to shamans, and spinning around sufism doesn’t appeal to me.
Meditation and “sober” Sufism is ok in my book though.

I like the appeal of trying to hash it out and meditate on the universe and how God's plan is for all of us, but not in a gay predetermined way.
I don't know, I get the appeal of Islam though.

Why do you believe it's the true religion when it first started 600 years after the death of christ. I've read the Quran and you can summarize it with this way. The first part, which was written while he started gaining a few followers was a rehash of the Bible and it talked about happiness and all that stuff. In the second part though, once he gained a following large enough to start a war, that was the point he started talking about jyhad and how you'll go to heaven if you due in battle and kill all infidels. You said that people should read the Quran, but maybe you should research about other religions, maybe then you'll find a "true" one. (just want to say, if Islam has made you into a better person and has generally improved your life then good for you, I just wanted to express my opinion on this topic, don't want you to change your mind, just want to hear your opinion)

Gotta spread your right opinions somehow.

So the right opinions is killing all non believers, mistreating women and other things like that? Is that what you're referring to?

Sure, if you want to put words in my mouth like that.

Well how about you explain lmao? Am I supposed to know what you mean? No, that's why I'm making assumptions

Okay, non-believers who didn't accept should be killed. That's really how it is.
I'm not even a muslim but even I can understand this.

>Why do you believe it's the true religion when it first started 600 years after the death of christ
Why does that matter? The bible is a Greek translation of a Jewish Palestinian Aramaic speaking man with tons of commentary/differences between the accounts. If you had the gospel that Jesus preached, (a lot of times in the New Testament it says Jesus preached “the gospel”) then you’d have some authority
>I've read the Quran and you can summarize it with this way. The first part, which was written while he started gaining a few followers was a rehash of the Bible and it talked about happiness and all that stuff. In the second part though, once he gained a following large enough to start a war, that was the point he started talking about jyhad and how you'll go to heaven if you due in battle and kill all infidels.
Those are some generalizations but sure, the Quran has different themes but nowhere do those different themes conflict with one another
>You said that people should read the Quran, but maybe you should research about other religions, maybe then you'll find a "true" one.
I’m doing so all the time, not because I think I’ll find a true one (Islam is truth to me) but because I believe that most religions have some knowledge and it’s good to see what other people think.

I mean that's religion in general for you, looking metaphors after the fact but at least Islam and the majority of branches of Christianity and Judaism, etc etc accept evolution, it's only that very weird branch of amerilard protestantism that doesn't and have their creation science and museum.

That's because they worship a fucking book instead of God.

I went to a creation science museum once. Cool experience.

can tell you don't know what you're talking about