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we heard you in the last thread please take your retardation to a communist forum
Zachary Kelly
I think that if we don't make a higher high this week, then the open of the next week will be carnage. We've got bearish divergence on high timeframes and we made a double top, also everyone is euphoric due to longest bull run meme
Dominic Long
uranium is fucked rn imo oil looks weak now too, w hardly anyone trading it im gonna start watching natgas and see if theres anything worth doing there
fuck it theres two ways we can deal w this imo
SPY youre gonna want to short it immediately if not sooner if it goes against you just HODL bro, youll be ok
As a pro natgas trader \Here is the rundown Only buy at 2.6 Sell at 2.7+ End of story, it will range this area forever, ergo, natgas is untraceable at the moment
will recover and all the money will pour in. Everyone can hate Trump but his policies make USA the best place to park capital right now.
Adam Sanders
the spx is going to 3000 and beyond not sure why ANYONE besides retard commies would consider a recession when 1. momentum up is so strong 2. the economy is booming 3. the yield curve hasnt even come close to inverted yet its like Sorry Charlie, economic prosperity will prevail
Joseph King
sounds about right
i miss when silver was still ranging. i made good money on that, and the options premiums had almost no IV on em
aren't recessions generally triggered by some external event? e.g. housing crisis, debt crisis
Ethan Hill
What are the conditions/factors necessary to make the dollar reach 120 and beyond?
Samuel Harris
>trying to predict based on insignificant macro trends This is how you lose big time First of all, we just had a correction in february because of a bond yield breakout, not seen since 1987, how often do you think that happens
We also had a MAJOR correction in 2014-2015, how often do you think that happens
Adrian Gray
120 whats?
Owen Rodriguez
housing decline is going to be generally soft which just means money into stocks trade war will just be a dip not a crash
Angel Moore
Whos still holding FNKO and AMRS?
Cooper Sanchez
i mean i got a thesis, but its not totally batshit and based off of a double top on the daily chart. and im also under no illusion of it happening any time soon either
moar rate hikes
continued QT, which will keep inflation capped and cause the dollar to "moon" against foreign currencies that are still inflating
and also panicking foreign investors buying up all of them leading to an intl dollar scarcity (its a meme, but i think its a possibility if EMs all shit themselves simultaneously)
credit crunch if its anything its gonna be the corporate debt that has bubbled up due to the endless summer of QE/free infinite money glitch
but i dont see this affecting all stocks. only the super huge debthogs that arent even profitable w free money
the economy will litterally collapse if online advertising becomes unprofitable
Angel Clark
Isn't a USD shortage plan already in effect? And we're supposed to get a rate hike near end of Sept. and December is being considered. So not one, but two rate hikes this year. Pres. Trump sure likes his 2 in everything.
Before any sort of real correction (5-7%, nothing major) I think this will get pretty fast to the upside
I could see 3100 EOY
Josiah Ross
supposedly it's relatively meaningless. The lines of the poem are used in some sci fi series he read as a kid and names things after. For instance the drone ship names are from the book series. I wouldn't read it as something negative.
Christian Murphy
agreed
i'm here just for TSLA collapse, it's time to end this wasteful fugazi
right now it is delaying the development of real "sustainable" tech
destruction of musk-run-TSLA is good for the world, despite what many brainlets still think.
people are waking up to this scam.
Tyler Gonzalez
I agree Also what many people dont seem to realize is the sp500 P/E ratio isnt that high, its only slightly above average lol, which is a bullish signal
Anthony Jones
AGEN bout to moon. Get it at $2 while you can
Sebastian Barnes
>Isn't a USD shortage plan already in effect? i dont think theres a way to plan for a bunch of EMs eating shit all at the same time. especially since it hasnt happened yet.
2 more hikes has been the plan since like may. its whether were going to do it, and whether were gonna continue to do more after
>Pres. Trump sure likes his 2 in everything. trump has absolutely no fucking say in this. learn more about the FED senpai. the FED is a private institution and answers to no govt. they control and manipulate everything in the markets and the world.
read the book "the creature from jekyll island" if you havent
m8 were printing a new ATH tomorrow at this rate
>but we4 never double dipped, its the same as 1987 exactly the same i know weve discussed this, but i think it bares repeating: i think that february was ENTIRELY done via manipulation by the FED
Idk user, I'm not in because it's too volatile but Q3 might actually BTFO bears if production holds and continues to climb Anyone holding ARRY? Looks promising, big pipeline of drugs, dip right now, have only done basic research so far though
Justin Rogers
i tell you what, all these small specs whining trying to get me to tell them when to short a country has me absolutely staying out of the trade for the time being
i might even go long
Jeremiah Cook
yah to be fair, we did need that dip in feb cause it was going up in a straight line all year
Bond spike + vix and fed was bizarre, but all corrections you cant predict
It's far too soon to get in anyway. If it goes above 15 dollars to the USD that's when you start thinking about it.
Charles Wood
why are you being a dick about it? what do you think this board is for?
Ayden Carter
he isnt being a dick, he is being reasonable Way too many small specs shorting 3rd world right now + news
Jackson Fisher
>but all corrections you cant predict true but i still think theres merit in trying to find out how they can happen. clearly, since this one was so similar to 87, they DO repeat somewhat
there cant be THAT many ways to crash the market. at least, not that many DIFFERENT ways to do it
he was talking about EZA, the SA ETF, not the rand.
>why are you being a dick about it? because you dont know what youre doing, and are trying to play some super risky, geopolitical macro meme that just got spotlighted by the fucking US president.
you SHOULD feel stupid, and thus should try and prove me wrong by analyzing the ever loving fuck out of it on your own. when you can tell ME when to short the SA40, then its time to do it
>what do you think this board is for? shitposting and judging market sentiment and thats exactly what im doing rn i hate a crowded short. especially a crowded short on some bouncy little EM like SA.
i just KNOW theres some cunt out there just waiting to squeeze the fuck out of all the channers and Jow Forumsacks who try to LARP as soros
Josiah Rogers
>i just KNOW theres some cunt out there just waiting to squeeze the fuck out of all the channers and Jow Forumsacks who try to LARP as soros you mean the anime neets lurking this board after getting rich from when crypto was really fucking high
I'd be surprised if the company is still around at the end of Q3. The bloomberg tracker is an estimate based on VIN registrations. It does not directly correlate with production and can be gamed. The factory has been low capacity/slowdown for 2 weeks now according to eye witnesses + photos. twitter.com/skabooshka
It's not just that poem. Every single fact is pointing directly to CH11. Every advising firm they have hired specializing in BK, them not retracting Musk's tweet (they are accruing liability on it to this day), the factory slowdown, the farewell concert, the extended delay for refunds, no one in texas getting cars, the cars in the lanthrop dustlot getting warhoused, the advanced SEC investigation putting a cloud over any capital raise, the divide between the board and Musk, not cash flow positive july,..they are basically stuck and the only way out is to shed debt/liability and restructure the company. Sure, they might get lucky and find a dumb money buyer to hold the bad but anyone with that much money has enough sense to not throw it away on a pile of debt and liability that burns cash. It's all a smokescreen for bankruptcy.
Samuel James
theres merit but the problem is >to the day The day that it really happens is completely random, like how last year the us dollar only TANK on super strong news then randomly decided to jump up late this year
as a small spec i've heard just be a contrarian on sentiment and you will make it. is this true?
Ethan Myers
I'm close, mine starts in middle of september
Luis Rivera
>not many different ways >ridiculous derivatives, leveraged etfs, cdos and other strange financial instruments being created all the time
Daniel Hernandez
I remember this question being asked a while ago. If you start with $50, and get a 2% return every single day with no red days, you will end up with $68,870 in 365 days. It will never happen, like ever, but still pretty interesting
Robert Gray
you make a compelling case user, but bankruptcy by Q3 already? there's no way it happens that fast. From what I've seen, employee morale is quite high and optimistic. You are certainly right about VIN registrations possibly being gamed. The twitter acct you linked is some edgy chapo guy larping as an investigative reporter. There is enough optimism to carry it to Q3, but if that disappoints then I think the end might well be near
Leo Barnes
you have to be contrarian to other small specs not large specs the COT can help but is delayed weekly
If you could squeeze 1,000 shekels into your starting position, you would end up with $1,377,408. Pretty EZ m8, I'll call Soros and ask how he did it
Bentley Thomas
you see, i was short on SA (and turkey) 3+ weeks ago when i heard the possibility of the govt passing this law allowing boer to be slaughtered. i talked about it here, but not too much
i covered after that BIG drop. prior to the event getting realized why? because i looked at the chart and determined that i DONT wanna be on the wrong side of that. at all
now everyone, even comfy is asking me how to short SA so the best advice i can give you is dont do it yet
theyre here too but youre kidding yourself if you think that this place isnt PERFECTLY set up for famous people to come in, stay user, and fuck around and LARP like theyre a normal human bean. Jow Forums becoming completely mainstream has solidified this.
>also look, large specs starting longing the rand ha fucking KNEW it i know the oppenheimers would be pissed if SA was to completely dissolve into chaos theres a lot of platinum, silver and gold in there, and no one wants to pay for a full on mercenary outfit to guard the mines
its worked well for me so far the problem is that its hard to tell what people are doing w out having a fucking bloomberg terminal
still, its not as simple as just pulling the plug on the drain. it takes an incredible amount of money and effort to stop the US markets. and theres SERIOUS risk involved w that. thus, the FED is the only one i can see as being able to do it.
i think it could happen sooner desu look up how long it generally takes for the SEC to do investigations like this if he goes to prison it will plummet, and the saudis will LET it happen because theyll get a better deal. they have no reason to lie to help elon out
Adam Torres
is there any take on soros that isnt incredibly conspiracy filled? I feel like everything i read is mis/disinfo
Andrew Fisher
>comfy is asking me how to short SA Fuck off m8 I've talked about this off and on for the last 6 months
Nicholas Martin
speaking of soros in case you arent aware he has been trading Fang like mad, switching positions around this explains all the dips and pumps fyi, Amazon is going to 1 trillion marketcap, dont even think of selling your FNGU until then
CH11 needs to be filed early because it has massive fees. They can barely support it with their cash on hand. If they don't declare now, they will be forced into CH7 down the line which is a lot worse.
Even if the company does somehow manage to turn a profit by some miracle, they are still fucked. I don't think you understand the legal ramifications of Musk's tweet. If he is lying, (which he is by any measure based on facts we know), Tesla is liable for every loss due to the tweet and every share traded based on information contained in the tweets. That is BILLIONS in class action lawsuits. That alone is enough to sink the company many times over. They people in charge know the end is coming and what they need to do to make the best of it.
A buyout does not work. Going private does not work. If anyone pays a penny for those shares in a buyout, they are liable for the damages from Elon Musk's tweets. The shares have NEGATIVE value. Buying this company at 0$ per share would be a mistake. I doubt anyone is making an even bigger mistake by actually paying for them.
Tyler Howard
kek stop being so touchy anyone who skims Jow Forums occasionally has known about this for years
doesnt change the fact that you are not competent enough to be taking such risky macro trades like this. if you cant plan your own entry and exit by yourself, then you should not do it. period. the reason im being a "dick" about it is because im 100% certain that everyone who FOMOs into this play will get squeezed. fucking HARD too (see )
Easton Watson
>raising shares in Salesforce
I wonder if he is also loading up on Docusign?
Ryder Lee
>LARP like theyre a normal human bean. Nothing wrong with that. Hiroshimoot would be happy because he'd then get revenue from Jow Forums passes. William Shatner lurking in /tv/ can only be a good thing, gives the board some shitposting hauteur.
>LLC I found that funny, usually when I see LLC tied to a pizza place or a local insurance company, but it's tied to Soros in this piece I'd like the golden bull to continue forever now that I'm not a leveraged retard. However I will continue to cheer for the bear, because it's a better meme I was paper trading it for the last little while and was short USDZAR and made some shekels. Luckily I close my position at like 3 today so I avoided getting justed by DRUMPF
i mean mainstream popularity like this is unironically what killed Jow Forums (see: everywhere outside of this bread), and ESPECIALLY this election
but the fact that Jow Forums seems to attract some people who actually know their shit (and some who are DEFINITELY connected in the financial world), is enough for me to come back to this thread again and again
the guy knows how to stay hedged desu i can respect that. even if he is absolute scum, hes talented. he wouldnt have got where he is if he wasnt
just promise me, if youre trying to do this, take your fucking time and study it. hyperinflation takes months, sometimes years to get going.
say it with me: >i will not FOMO into macro memes
Sebastian Carter
nice proofs
Lucas Howard
I'm not longing USDZAR right now
Elijah Baker
there are some /sp/artans that are professional nfl or soccer players abroad. also there are several college presidents, ADs and coaches on rivals.com messaging boards and others. this rings pretty true imo, musk lurks he has to.
Benjamin Thomas
youre missing the point lad while i dont WANT you to blow up, it honestly doesnt matter to me personally. but even if it WAS time to short it forever, you are not ready because youre not trading/thinking for yourself.
go study weimar germany, and zimbabwe, and yugoslavia and venezuela, and whatever other cunt you can find that has had hyperinflation. study it. look at how it happens. look at WHY it happens. look for what sets it off etc
then go fill in the gaps on how the ANC works, and how the bushwars happened once you know how and why it will happen, and you have a plan, you then sit and wait for that to become realized. NEVER act until you see it happen
Aaron Fisher
Is MU the official algo rape dungeon now that AMD has some actual organic price action?
Hunter Moore
Look at this you can't make this shit up
Literally using #expropriation right after denying the validity of Trump's tweet
Wouldn't it be only 0.2% (Or 0.4% or 0.8%) per month? Still, I am just using Robinhood, and I'm thinking of swing trading instead of just long term investing (since indexes have been sideways this calendar year) But I'm not sure how doable it is with Robinhood as only broker, and such a low amount of capital
While I'd like to be able to plot more than 3 indicators at a time, I'm having trouble justifying the cost
