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what is the correction of a mistaken impression in russian? in german its doch

They're better than
>The car is blue
>Saturn's interior is probably composed of a core of iron–nickel and rock (silicon and oxygen compounds). This core is surrounded by a deep layer of metallic hydrogen, an intermediate layer of liquid hydrogen and liquid helium, and finally a gaseous outer layer. Saturn has a pale yellow hue due to ammonia crystals in its upper atmosphere. Electrical current within the metallic hydrogen layer is thought to give rise to Saturn's planetary magnetic field, which is weaker than Earth's, but has a magnetic moment 580 times that of Earth due to Saturn's larger size. Saturn's magnetic field strength is around one-twentieth of Jupiter's.
These are clozes that people actually say, and especially us who post on Jow Forums.

>Would you marry an italian?
Czy chciałbyś wziąć ślub z włoszką?
>What language should I learn?
Jakiego języka mam uczyć się?
>I don't like her nose
Nie lubię jej nosa
>I want to do this to a black woman
Chciałbym to zrobić z czarną kobietą

It's not that interesting since I just googled it, but the reason I did was that I know a guy who is well-versed with Old English (the Serb posting here sometimes btw) and I know it's more Germanic than today's English, so I figured I'd look there first, expecting a cognate to fråga or fragen, and I was indeed right.

Henlo Swedish learning fren.

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>Easy
>>Would you marry an italian?
Aș căsători tu un italian?
>>What language should I learn?
Care limba ar trebuie să învăt?
>>I don't like her nose
Nu-mi place nasul ei
>>I want to do this to a black woman.
Eu vreau să fac acest la o fata negra
>Medium
>>Show off your protruding gut and manboobs? Me too, man.
Artă burtă și țâțe? Și eu om
>>My normie friend wants me to hang out with him and his friends soon
Amicul meu normal vrea să stea curând cu el și amicii lui
>>They were too soft on remaining bourgeuois elements after comrade Stalin passed away
Ei erau mai slab să rămână pe elemente borgeuoase dupa Stalin trecea.
>>Why, yes, I do believe that the Bolsheviks' elimination of Tsar's children was both justified and necessary. How could you tell?
Dar da, cred că eliminarea bolșevicilor de copiii lui Tsar era justificată și necnecesar. Cum ai putut spune?
>Hard
>>I've never told anyone and I massively regret it every day, I know I was young but I still shouldn't have done such an evil thing.
N-am spus nicodată oricine și eu o regret tare în fiercare zi, știu că eram tineri dar nu înca ar fi trebuit să fac ceva nefast(a?)

Vos te casarías una italiana?
Cual idioma debería enseñar?
A mi no me gusta su nariz.
Quiero hacer esto a esta mujer negra .
Mostra su bonsa asca y tetas hombres. Yo también weon
Mi amigo normal quiere que yo pase el rato con él y sus amigos
Ellos estaban demasiado fácil en el resto de los elementos burgués que se quedaron, después camarada Stalin pasó
Pero sí, Creo que la eliminación de los bolcheviques de los niños de Tsar estaba justificado y necesario. Como vos pudiste decir?
Yo no nunca he dicho nadie y macizamente lo lamento cada día, Sé que era joven pero todavía yo no debí haber hecho esta cosa malvada

No, as in, translating a sentence from English into your language of choice neither improves or proves your proficiency in said language. You shouldn’t be outputting so early.

Prove it.

Reposting: TED talks have transcripts which are fairly literally translated in many languages and also are learner friendly with the style. They're good for both reading in one's target language or using as a native to target translation challenge with an answer key

ted.com/talks/tony_fadell_the_first_secret_of_design_is_noticing/transcript
for example

my wife chino... I WANT TO FUCK CHINO
please chino is so cute my wife chino is so cute chino chan sex chino sex with chino i'd like some more kafuu chino sex with chino kafuu chino my wife cute is so chino wife

Eu quero que voce me faz uma sopa deliciosa como o sopa com o macaco de que tenho visto em Jow Forums

*panza

It's only a tool after all

Just made Ruby League on Duolingo. Time to learn this language. Is there anything left for me to achieve?

Actually learning the language

>I've never told anyone and I massively regret it every day, I know I was young but I still shouldn't have done such an evil thing.

J'ai jamais dit a quelqu'un et je le regrette énormement tous les jours, je sais bien que j'étais jeune mais je n'aurais toujours pas dû faire une telle chose d'aussi méchant.

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watches one mattvsjapan video and thinks hes hot shit kek
keep it up bro

Not two people share the same language. Every person's language and vision of the world is filled with unique details.
One may never expect to use others' language they way they'd use their own.

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fuck off philosophytranny

id almost say well done if that werent the entire point of the exercise to begin with. if you believe translation is the word for word rephrasing of a sentence into another language, youre dead wrong. read the sentence, consider all important bits, rewrite it. its a simple exercise and incentivises you to construct a sentence with necessary bits of information, if something cannot be said, find another way or leave it out. simple as.

about that fellow over here... even he was almost right when he parotted someone else's talking points with the exact same vernacular, but he didnt finish the thought. the advice he gave is only contextually true, if you were to construct a sentence out of the blue in a normal conversation without any real confidence that you can even say that with a good level of certainty that your solution is competent enough, then yea, its probably not very wise to do that often, since youre going to build up bad habits. however, none of that applies to this thread. the entire point is to take your chances, make a guess, and, this is crucial, get corrected by a native speaker. you can then learn from the answer. its a significant difference.

so no, the exercise is not entirely useless. it actually helps a lot.

very based

>some 45 year old roastie told me today German was an angry language and french was beautiful

shes right to an extent brudi

yeah because its definitely not a subjective matter right? or that french literally has more guttural sounds than german? or that people only think x language is y adjective due to american pop culture?

Stop overthinking it, you incel autist.
People say all sorts of dumb shit all the time.

You're just jealous your language is digusting G*rmanic and not superior beautiful Romance.

lmao its pretty much common knowledge that most romance lang countries are more posh than those of g*rmanics. but i believe that perception of how a language sounds cannot really just be wrapped up in saying that its harsh because of gutteral sounds, french also has a lot of nasal vowels and generally an enforced flow that keeps everything smooth. they add pointless letters to things just so they dont have to make a stop inbetween two words. the gutteral sounds get equalised by how round french sounds in general.

with german id say it doesnt have to stem from sounds like /x/ either, the reason why russian sounds a million times softer despite also having sounds like that is because they really seem to hate too many rough endings, they have an entire letter in their alphabet of which the sole purpose is to soften the preceeding consonant, whereas in german, word endings are very exact and sound choppy. but its hard for me tto have an opinion on this because i cannot listen to german that way, or at least i dont know how you can "objectively" dissect your mothertongue.

just because i make an argument about something doesnt mean im an incel

yikes

>lmao its pretty much common knowledge that most romance lang countries are more posh than those of g*rmanics.
thats what im saying. We need to stop putting stereotypes of the country and applying them to the language, when it is just a way to talk.

well ok, i said all that, but i said it without judgement. i dont really think harsh or soft are inherently good or bad traits, i very much like german the way it is, the same way i like french the way it is. and i think those things might intertwine with culture at least a little bit, and if not, then our perception of their traits definitely does. but again, that doesnt have to be a bad thing tbdesu.

Which level in Duolingo is equivalent to HSK 1?

Lads, I spent last night playing Dark Souls and lost my 89 streak on Duofaggot. I'm unironically quite sad.

None, stop using it as an only resource

>4chanint.fandom.com/wiki/Hungarian
This is the worst thing ever and its preventing me from.finding the right tools to learn Hungarian. It says it's fleshed out but its literally all duolingo GARBAGE. can some competent person fix it please and not copy paste a ton of shit onto my screen

Hey anons. Currently learning Portuguese (BR) here. Any tips and advice? I already know a bit of spanish

Read Machado de Assis.

Would it be worth learning Korean and Chinese for the sake of early manga scanlations?

That's subjectively stupid as fuck, but if you're willing to waste several hundreds of hours for the sake of being able to save a day at most, then do it.
Otherwise, don't waste your time learning other languages.

If you mean pornhwas and whatever the Chinese are doing nowadays, sure. Why would you not learn the source language?

I'm mostly interested in Japanese stuff. As far as I know, pornography is illegal in South Korea, and highly restricted in the PRC, so I doubt there'd be much erotic content being produced in either of those countries.

earned 700xp on French just today. holy fuck. The random user the other day was right, French is really a fun language to learn. pronouncing the words does pose a challenge. I don't know anyone who speaks French that I could practice with.

French vocab is easy, but the pronunciation makes me REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

French pronunciation is a piece of cake

Yeah, I'm asking you, why would you not learn the source language? You're going to run into similar problems grammatically if you pick Korean and Chinese requires to drill Kanji forever, cause "Kanji" is the entire language

Your vowel inventory is one of the largest in the world, of course it seems that way to you

It's really not that bad. It looks completely arbitrary at first, but it's little more than a big set of rules that you need to learn. Granted, the rules aren't always the most intuitive, and there are plenty of exceptions (e.g. "fils", "oignon", "mets", etc.), but if you learn all the rules you can know how to pronounce the overwhelming majority of words in French.

I think he means actually forming the sounds consistently

Encontré alugunas frases en el hilo pasado, y las decidí traduir. ¿Como hize?

>long story short, the only places that had a good uni program in my field were amsterdam and gothenburg (there were lots others in germany and UK but they were kinda shit). I chose amsterdam because I figured it'd be more international and it'd be easier to travel around europe from here, both assumptions were true in hindsight though I doubt much would've been all that different if I would've gone to gothernburg we'll never know. I knew nothing about either countries in the process

Historia larga hecha corta, soló los lugares que tenián un buen progama buena de uni en mi campo eraban Amsterdam y Gotemburgo (había lós muchos otros en Alemania y El Reino Unido, pero estaban bastante mierda). Elegí Amsterdam porque creía que estaba más internacional y estaba más simple viajar alrededor de Europa de aquí. Ambas suposiciones estaban verdad en retrospectiva aunque dudo que no lo había estado más diferente si yo había ido a Gotemburgo. Nunca sabimos. No sabía nada sobre ambos paises en el proceso.

>No lol.
>Mandarin is preferred. Sorry I actually didn't realize how different they are.

No lol.
Mandarin está preferido. Lo siento, realmente no realizé que diferentes lós son.

>I must have misunderstood all that, then. I thought people were literally talking about being stuck in a perpetual loop of deliberate language study. If it's about maintenance and occasionally coming across new words, then I don't really disagree. Pretty autistic from me, now that I think about it.

Sale, debé tener malententido por todo de eso. Creí que la gente literalmente estaba platicando sobre estar atascada en un circuito perpetuo de estudio del idioma deliberado. Si él está más o menos sobre mantener y a veces pasar palabras nuevas, entonces realmente no disentir. Bastante autístico para mi, ahora que lo pienso.

>Historia larga hecha corta
I don't remember much Castillian, but this seems too literal already

I've actually already been learning Japanese too.
I was mostly saying it as a sort of joke because I often see Chinese/Korean scanlations posted on /a/ before or instead of Japanese raws or English scanlations.

Mutts leatning other languages

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>>They were too soft on remaining bourgeuois elements after comrade Stalin passed away
Kütke üles ennast sellepärast, et praegu võtaks natuke kiiremat tempot kui esimeses shows sellepärast, et järgnevad showd on natuke kiiremad
>>I don't like her nose
Me hakkame teid tapma
>>What language should I learn?
Me tulime õigel ajal siia, kolmas maailmasõda on tulekul, meie lapsed kannatasid, inimesed kannatasid ja kui te sellest pole aru saanud siis tõmmake nahhui
>>Show off your protruding gut and manboobs? Me too, man
Kui kellegile ei meeldi me hakkame teid kustutama, saate aru? See on jumal ja jumala perekond siin. Kui te sellest pole aru saanud me ehitame uut maailma
>>I've never told anyone and I massively regret it every day, I know I was young but I still shouldn't have done such an evil thin
>>Why are Scandinavians so thin and bony? It doesn't make sense from an adaptive basis and cannot be solely due to diet either, as they are
Ma räägin praegu Eesti vabariigi valitsusega. Mul piir katkes tänase viimase päevaga viimane kord. Mida ma näen praegu jälle taolist? Saate aru me tulime siia uue generatsiooniga, me tulime siia uue põlvkonnaga mida teil siin veel pole. Meie laev on teie pea kohal, meie perekond tuleb siia. Siin olen mina jumal ja minu kuningriik ja minu perekond tuleb siia, jumal ja valge lipp. Kes pole veel sellest aru saanud, meie perekond tuleb siia mis on üle maailma laiali. Mida ma näen facebookis jälle? Ma kohe näitan teile... maha võetud juba v? Saate aru, kui te midagi postitate siis vastutage oma tegude eest. Te panete sinna jumalat ja kuradit. Meil on süda läbi, punane lipp on maha võetud. Meil on sinine lipp maha võetud ja nüüd tõstsime valge ja kuldse lipu üles. 98% on valget, 2%-i on kuldset, kui kellegile ei sobi siis tõmmake nahhui siit. See on viimane hoiatus ja see jääb viimaseks hoiatuseks.

>>My normie friend wants me to hang out with him and his friends soon
Ma loodan, et te olete üles kütnud, ükskõik kuidas, kasvõi oma naise seltsis või siis mehe seltsis. Naised mehe tulge vaatama, näitan oma tantsu

>Easy
Czy wyjdziecie za Włocha?
Jakiego język powinienem nauczyć?
Nie lubię jej nosa.
Chcę zrobić to do czarnej kobiety.

>Medium
Chcesz pokazywać swój wystający brzuch i cycki? Ja też, brachu.
Mój normalny przyjaciel chce, że wkrótce spędzam czas z nim i przyjaciółmi.
Potym jak towarzysz Stalin odszedł, oni byli zbyt mili dla pozostałych elementów burżuazyjnych.
Ależ tak, wierzę, że bolszewicka eliminacja dzieci cara była zarówno uzasadniona, jak i konieczna. Skąd wiedziałeś?

I want to be a polyglot

youtu.be/6ArTFMRNr4M

Imagine a world language that is just constant code switching

Based roastie
Absolutely based Joao

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I'll just do it in Serbo-Croatian considering the red-white menaces have already done it in Polish

>Would you marry an italian?
Bi ti Vjenčati se s talijankom?
>What language should I learn?
Koji jezik trebao bih učiti?
>I don't like her nose
Ne volim njezina nosa
>I want to do this to a black woman.
Želio bih to raditi sa crnon ženom

>Show off your protruding gut and manboobs? Me too, man.
Pokazati svoj buh i menbubs? Ja isto čovjeće
>My normie friend wants me to hang out with him and his friends soon
Moji normi prijatelji hoće da družim uskoro s njim i svoj prijatelji
>They were too soft on remaining bourgeuois elements after comrade Stalin passed away
Bili su premekni elementima buržvazije nakon komrad Stalin umrio
>Why, yes, I do believe that the Bolsheviks' elimination of Tsar's children was both justified and necessary. How could you tell?
No, da. Verujem da Bolševska eliminacija djece cara bila opravdna i potrebna, kako si doznao?

It's not entirely based on stereotyping though. Most people just don't find the sound of German (and Dutch) pleasant but like how Spanish, Italian and French sound.

It's pretty evident at the Eurovision Song Contest where American influences are not really present. Germanic language countries almost never perform in their own language anymore since they usually got bad scores. There was a rule that enforced the performers to sing in an official language of their country. When the rule was lifted from 1973 til 1976, 2 Germanic language countries won with English songs (Sweden and the Netherlands). The rule was removed after this until 1999, and only 5 Germanic languages won in that period. Countries like Switzerland and Luxembourg just used French.
Italy, Spain and France however still constantly perform in their own language (or both in English and their native language, like France did this year). In fact, there's always drama in their countries if they don't.
Slavic countries also often perform in their own language but every Germanic language almost never does. Iceland was the only exception this year.

So it's not just an American thing, but it's obviously even more biased for Americans, both because of propaganda-like media and less contact with the actual languages.

>The rule was removed after this until 1999
I meant that the rule enforcing the countries to perform in one of their offical languages returned after 1976 and then was lifted again in 1999

Dunno about modern Dutch proper, but Afrikaans is one of the most beautiful European (derived) languages.
youtu.be/tJrGfTQH5HY

>American influences are not really present.
Not really Bart, plenty of the music has American influence. The English singing is in an American accent, like a lot of English singing.
I'd say the problem is that the Germanic languages have a lot of harder consonantal sounds at the ends of words which combined with the prosody of Germanic stress tends to be limiting. The vowels are also a bit stranger. Now compared to Romance languages which are more "vowelly" in general and the fact that the actual vowel inventory tends to be pretty "pure" and open, it lets people sing in pure tones more easily without having to worry about finishing on an awkward stop consonant or something. Your own language I would suggest could improve results with a zachter G like in the south and a different vowel inventory for singing, like how British singers often adopt a general American sort of vowel inventory.

>Bi ti Vjenčati se s talijankom?
Bi li se vjenčao Talijankom?
>Koji jezik trebao bih učiti?
Koji jezik bih trebao učiti?
>Ne volim njezina nosa
Ne volim njezin nos.
>Želio bih to raditi sa crnon ženom
crnoj ženi*
The challenge used to, not with.
>Pokazati svoj buh i menbubs? Ja isto čovjeće
Very awkward. No idea what the challenge meant either.
>Moji normi prijatelji hoće da družim uskoro s njim i svoj prijatelji
Moj normi prijatelj hoće da se družim uskoro s njim i njegovim prijateljem.
>Bili su premekni elementima buržvazije nakon komrad Stalin umrio
Maybe blag sounds better. Mekan works too, I guess.
Bili su preblagi prema prema ostacima buržoazije/preostalim elementima buržoazije nakon što je drug Staljin umro.
>Verujem da Bolševska eliminacija djece cara bila opravdna i potrebna
Vjerujem da je boljševička* eliminacija djece cara bila opravdana i potrebna.
*adjectives ending in -ski and -čki are not capitalised.

Afrikaans is pretty close to Dutch. I'm sure most people would agree it sounds awful.

>plenty of the music has American influence
I know, that's not what I meant. I meant that the voters are less biased in their opinions (compared to Americans) about other languages because they're European.
And yeah it does also have to do with how the "word melody" changes the way songs and lyrics have to be structured. This year's winning song for example would've been impossible to perform in Dutch without drastically changing the lyrics, if at all.

Also I'm actually not Dutch, I'm German. I do live in the south of the Netherlands and yeah the softer G definitely makes it sound better. Although Flemish is even softer but I think it's almost too much, it sounds pretty silly sometimes.

Ai de plm.
>Te-ai căsători cu un italian?
>Ce limbă să învâț?
>Vreu s-o fac cu o fată neagră.
Etc. Restu-i aiurea cam de aceeași speță, și nici nu-mi e limba maternă. Larpistu’ de cancer cu proxi ce ești.

>most people would agree it sounds awful
You're just jelly I didn't praise literary Dutch instead

youtu.be/jvVuZToPvlY
Listen to this and tell me it doesn't have soul.

I didn't say it sounds awful, I just think most people would think it does. I do like the sound of Dutch, it's cute. But I am German so it's not surprising as Dutch is mostly softer than German, aside the stronger emphasis on ch- or g-sounds (x in IPA)

Fair enough, mein Freund.

>And yeah it does also have to do with how the "word melody" changes the way songs and lyrics have to be structured. This year's winning song for example would've been impossible to perform in Dutch without drastically changing the lyrics, if at all.
Exactly. And how Duncan tried: youtube.com/watch?v=25O5jO5kr9w
>Also I'm actually not Dutch, I'm German
Ah. Any opinion on your act getting null?
>Although Flemish is even softer but I think it's almost too much, it sounds pretty silly sometimes.
Yeah, I guess. Dutch in general seems to work better in comical music, but there are some acts like Bazart that, while I'm not really a fan of them, manage to make it work in a contemporary context. youtube.com/watch?v=pew1rERKHMo

Eu? Proxi? Nu amic. Am postast aici înainte. Traiesc aici in Moldova pentru că lucresc cu o GNO. Sunt din America

>(x in IPA)
That is ch, the voiced variant AKA the g sound you have on your mind is /ɣ/

Eu am vazut eroarele am facut în gramatica mea. îmi pare rău, am scris acest în 3 dimineața

>stronger emphasis on ch- or g-sounds (x in IPA)
Yeah, there's another thing. I find that that fricative works better when used in Celtic songs, like Welsh and Gaelic, and German better than it does in Dutch. I'm not sure if it's the placement or the fact that Dutch simply has more contrasting stop consonants that cause it to feel out of place.
In lots of speakers the two are allophonic though

Yeah I was thinking of that challenge video actually, kek. Disrespect for the Swedish dude not even trying to sing it, though.
[pretendspoilersworkhere]Fuck, Duncan a cute[/spoiler]
>Any opinion on your act getting null?
Fucking hilarious. The song was incredibly boring just as every year so we're used to it, I at least fully expected it to perform horribly. UK scoring even worse than us was surprising to me though.
Fuck the guys who choose the songs for us, they are always awful. We have lots of young talent but they just pick a generic ass song and someone to perform it. This year's song was a rejected Eurovision song from Switzerland, written by someone who didn't even know what Eurovision is. It's ridiculous. Unironically soulless.
You're right, my bad. I just looked up the German one, I forgot that it's different because it's always at the end of words and thus not voiced. They are almost the same though.

>spoiler
Certainly a pretty one.
>UK scoring even worse than us was surprising to me though.
Wasn't there a voting error with that? But yeah, jury gonna jury
>We have lots of young talent but they just pick a generic ass song and someone to perform it.
Well, we all know that's most of Eurovision. Who would you enter for Netherlands 2020?
>This year's song was a rejected Eurovision song from Switzerland, written by someone who didn't even know what Eurovision is.
Wtf, I didn't even know that, that's fucking lame.

Facile
>Te marierais-tu avec un italien?
>Quelle langue devrais-je apprendre?
>Je n'aime pas son nez
>Je veux le faire avec une femme noire

Intermédiaire
>Montrer ton ventre gonflé et tes petits seins masculins? Moi aussi, ami
>Mon ami normie veut que je sors avec lui et ses amis bientôt
>Ils ont été trop bons avec les éléments bourgeois qui restaient aprés que camarade Stalin mourût
>Mais oui, je pense que le meurtre des enfants du Tsar par les bolcheviques était soit justifié que nécessaire, comment le savais-tu?

Difficile
>Je ne l'ai jamais dit à personne et je m'en repentis chaque jour, je sais que j'était jeune mais tout de même je n'aurais jamais dû faire une chose si mauvais
>Pourquoi les scandinaves sont aussi minces et osseux? Ça n'a pas de sens d'un point de vue évolutionniste et il ne peut même pas être seulement pour le régime, depuis qu'ils sont en grande partie ectomorphiques, ils sont comme des africains depigmentés
>J'ai clairement affirmé que les suisses sont trè mieux en ce qui concerne les armes, en pratique ils ont seulement besoin d'envoyer un seul pièce de carte à la police pour recevoir un permis, et cependent il n'y a pratiquement pas de crimes d'arme à feu. Je me demande pourquoi (les americains ont une sortie de fétichisme pour les armes, c'est pourquoi)
>Bien sûr que j'èvite de poser mon regard sur les femme qui porte des pantalons de yoga. En les regardant, je les donne deux choses: un est l'approvation pour eux de continuer à s'habiller comme des salopes en public, Deux est leur pouvoir sur moi, car ils sont maintenant conscient de mon envie de coucher et ils pouvent l'utiliser comme effet de levier dans n'importe quelle future interaction

>Wasn't there a voting error with that? But yeah, jury gonna jury
Yeah there was a voting error, the Belarus jury gave their rankings in the reverse order, so their 12 points was actually the worst ranked song lmao
UK was last in either case though, Germany just went from third-to-last to second-to-last.
>Well, we all know that's most of Eurovision. Who would you enter for Netherlands 2020?
No idea, but I would like if they would keep choosing talented singer-songwriters instead of established artists, picked by a private jury instead of letting the public decide. I think Duncan suggested Naaz but I don't know her.

Did you only start caring about Eurovision since Australia joined or were you following the event before as well?

"an ask" could have also meant a question

Lets make this clear, we joined because it was already a popular event here. I think it ties back to the ABBA craze, I don't know much about its popularity here before that. But I remember stuff like Finland 2006, Sax guy, Dubstep Opera guy, etc.

Huh, I didn't know that, that's neat. All I knew is that you basically were invited once as kind of an experiment and people liked it so it kept happening.

Yeah, I think it was also a bit of a push by the broadcaster, but I think the average person thinks it was a fun decision to make anyway.
Yeah that was a good year, we only pick people from the mainstream pop music sphere, but she was a relatively good pick for us that first year. I'd say that year and this year were our best picks, this year it was our most technically capable mainstream pop singer, being classically trained and all.

>only have time for either reading or studying my TL

Life is suffering. Back to work!

German is more gutteral.

man i have to travel to turkey on september and this language is hard as fuckk i cant remember shittt