I am wondering why is it so hard for people that grew up in ex-communist countries to understand that cummunist/socialist regimes are not sustainable. Even if you state facts they will say it was different and that it was all western plan to destory them because they are jelous. And yet they go to work in the evil west capitalist countries that they despise.
I am from ex yugo country and have family members that still believe socialism will come back..
I've been to Cuba several times and people there seem relatively happy. It I don't see people going through garbage cans like I saw all the time in Mexico and see sometimes here in Canada
Camden Jenkins
It's just matter of time before shit hits the fan. With negative trade balance of -8,3 bln $ its like sitting on the barrel of black powder.
Charles Johnson
same can be said about capitalism and the infinite debt bubble
Leo Sanders
Where do you live?
Gabriel White
Communism per se isn't necessarily the issuee the issue is that communists are authoritarians and that includes the people too.
You see it with anti trump people.... they want to control your life. And dictate how you live etc
Charles Morris
Communists have a self-correcting mechanism where they reach a small, but critical, percentage of the population during rough times. They then seize power and end up killing each other.
However the Pinochet method is still the most efficient and humanitarian when dealing with a communist infestation.
>anti trump people wants to control my life >there are still people who unironically supports trump
Are you fucking real?
Sebastian Fisher
Trump's an excellent compromise candidate. He's coloring within the legal lines, goes on about 'rah rah anyone can be an American', and even pays lip service to Hispanics and Blacks.
If the anti-Trump forces get an inch more power, they will wish the politicians of the 2020's were so nice.
Brandon James
>I've been to Cuba several times No you haven't. I know because I do have a friend that has been and tells a very different tale.
Aaron Powell
>I don't see people going through garbage cans That's because in really poor countries nobody throws away anything of value.
Communism could work, but only after hardcore libertarianism has created ways to do black market, avoid taxes, etc.. (see crypto). Once we have reached this state, if the people are smart enough (can go over the freeloader valley in the society's optimization problem (tldr: > 105 IQ)), then communism is the only way for the society to survive, as without it, the wealthy would simply take everything and destroy the society once no ressources are available anymore (of course the wealthy would be the last to die, but they will die still). Thus, expect thousands if not hundred thousands of years of society natural selection, before one start to understand that cooperation is the only way to survive.
Sebastian Baker
All commies will be impaled The faggot raiders in this thread should remember that :)
That's literally nothing compared to how many people capitalism killed (ps: all wars are because or capitalism)
Aaron Sanchez
Exactly. Also all deaths to smallpox and polio before the vaccines are also attributable to capitalism.
Murders too.
Isaiah Butler
How can you be into crypto and a commie?
The only difference is who gets to participate in the market and how much it costs to escape slavery.
Jacob Barnes
literally couldnt give a fuck. at least capitalism give you a chance to exit the rat race and not have to wageslave for someone. with communism your stuck being a slave your whole life.
Chase Carter
how many did communism killed user
Lucas Thompson
Honestly no idea, but if you're implying hunger, know that capitalist countries actually block exports to communist countries (like the states did to Cuba)
Andrew Russell
>That's literally nothing compared to how many people capitalism killed (ps: all wars are because or capitalism)
im sure all the countries invaded and destroyed by the soviet union were also invaded becasue of capitalism.
Landon Gray
This. Haha!
Matthew Hall
I try to change my friends political views by changing what is in their own self-interest. Libertarians are made by making people strong and independent and socialists are made by making people weak and state-dependent.
I encourage my friends to invest a portion of their income in stocks, live a healthy lifestyle (plant-based diet and exercise) and develop their minds by listening to audiobooks and through discussion about things that matter.
literally had a HUGE autistic fight about this exact thing with my family today and they are visiting in town for the first time in over a year and it was in public