Why did Japanese comics develope into a massively varied art form but western comics stagnated as super hero stories?

calling japanese comics as "art" is a insult

well, children and manchildren too

that's because the only shit Bongs have is shitty Murrikan capeshit

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I love Gaston

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>western comics stagnated as super hero stories
That's not true, there are all sorts of stories put into comic book form.

Plus as others have said it's for children/manchildren, real adults read books.

well, calling them "graphic novels" is a cop out

>stagnated as super hero stories
That is the US. Here in Europe its is far more varied.

is his name translated in German?

His name is Gaston. My father grew up with his comics and Franquin works and he gave them me as a child and I loved it

Well, yeah, but it's supposed to be "Gaston Lagaffe" aka Gaston The Goof, or Gaston Goofer, or anything similar, and he's always referred as "Lagaffe", so I wondered how it would have been translated.

Just Gaston

ww2
they needed this to help them make it through post war times so it wasnt just directed at children
no it isnt

well you've got your indie comics around, they aren't bad

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Japan is great

Because Japanese often like to tell a wide variety of serious stories, not just funny cartoons. Also japanese don't like reading that much so there is a market for younger and older people who read comics from all parts of life.

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Japan has equality, female writers in the mainstream, a variety of topics and a long history of art and culture ignore continental europoors crying about the Garfield rip off only made in their 2 mile large province is so le edgy and cultured and you should be humiliated for not knowing hon hon le frog or what ever the euro trash gobble up.

>"serious stories"
>posts Berserk
don't shoot your own foot m8, please
here, real adult manga

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Looks like some shitty dating manga

Pretty far from that tho

this, Europe has good and varied comics and graphic novels, it's all the Western Hemisphere that is shit

>western comics stagnated as super hero stories?
That's mainly US comics

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adult manga are less flashy and very hard to digest
which is why they're for adults
not saying by any chance Berserk is bad [spoiler] (the only bad is that IT WILL NEVER END, FUCKS SAKE MIURA) [/spierdole]
what i'm saying is that if you wanna talk how manga can be sophisticated you need to learn some names or else you're not helping your case

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true

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Post good western comics.

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The best comic to this day is still Romantically Apocalyptic

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Wow there's gore and vulgarity it must be so mature

>Noizi Itoh
>Ootsuka Reika
>Sayori Sabori
>Shinonome Ryu
patrician list
wait where's Orimiya Mai? goddamn zoomers!

well i liked pic related, dunno about you

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nigga the most popular comic/visual novel/whatever the fuck this decade wasn't capeshit

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That's a tv show retard. I know cause me and the family watched it all.

Cute.

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how were you able to watch past season 1 lmao

Superheroes are for comics and cinema what reggaeton is for music.

Because americans are stupid and narrow-minded people. Cinemtograph is also good representation of it. Look how much different styles and cinematographic methods are used around the world, and americans only consume stupid straightforward Hollywood's crap (Disney is quintessence of this).
Nation of NPCs which taste in art is working literally like reflex.

What comics does Europe have?

plenty of underground stuff. you probably never heard of it *adjust thick rim glasses*

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Here in Italy the two big one are Tex, a westner loved by boomers, an Dilan Dog, weird urban fantasy giallo settle in London.
One of the most important recent comic is Orfani, or Orphans, a sort of Starship Troopers that parodize EU.

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>western comics stagnated as super hero stories?
Only in the US. Europe still makes varied comics.

is it just cringe anti eu nationalist racist pro italexit nonsense or is it based pro federalisation kino?

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>ctrl+f "stan lee"
I for one blame Stan Lee and his endless supply of capeshit.

this too

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Kys

More like people vs elite, guys plotting behind the scene an hiding the truth, I will not spoil it because whatever is your political ideal still works.

the sad is that Stan Lee is actually a good, entertaining writer
mind you i didn't say BEST like Don Rosa but definitely better than, say, Brian Michael Bendis

Being fair it's not entirely his fault, really I blame how DC/Marvel rehash their stories fucking endlessly, it's insane to think there's comics that's been around for longer than I've lived is constantly getting "reboots" with largely the same story.

Yikes a doddle-do!!! What a bunch of cringe

yet to see japscrap better than r. crumb t.bh

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Is Horsey making porn yet?

the left really can't meem

Because the west was busy making real art instead, understanding comics are best left for children.

who is this guy his art is visually unappealing
japan will most likely never be dethroned so ill just stick with their works until i die

>Because the west was busy making real art instead
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piss_Christ

see
this mindset is the reason why japan expanded and made a huge economy out of anime and manga they didnt fall prey to western arrogance of whats inherently mature and what isnt

Blacksad

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>western comics = furries
>japanese comics = women and femininity

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several dozen of thousands

bedetheque.com/bandes_dessinees_A.html

>japanese comics = women and femininity
they have very feminine furries tho

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haha le monke

the monkee is based

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how do you check by country of producer because i see japanese titles just translated to french

who that?

>never heard of Viz

lmao

I've never read a comic book in my life, always thought it was an American and Japanese thing mental that Europe had its own comic culture

western men grow up and have lives outside shoebox apartments and wage slavery

>never read beano or the dandy
You musta been a sad kid

why not start now??
read-comic.com/blacksad-vol-2-arctic-nation/

well, just the little flags left of the title

Comic books are for children and the Japanese are childlike

Maybe the lack of color has something to do with it

I know what beano is but never read one

that only tells me language and several of them are translated to french

well what i always admired from manga is that they use shades instead. glorious black, grey and white
comics were more into black and white only. not that i complain when you have artists taught by Will Eisner to make the best use of it

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Tuge Yoshiharu has a significant influence. He has impressed Toriyama Akira, Takahashi Rumiko and other manga artists.

qué grande
now THIS is seinen manga

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jews

don't forget based Ranxerox

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God bless Heavy Metal magazine
but i haven't read Moebius yet so i can't reccomend him

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Based ito btfoing White scum

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I guess that because westerners regard comics as for kids but the japanese didn't. Basically kids don't like intricate stories.

Many manga artists were made to realize the various expressions that manga has by him.

Les Tuniques Bleues

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stop reading american comics and watching american animation and you'll realize you're wrong

>click on cute asian chick
>austrian bro is here
aw yeah

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my drawing teacher had a Garo N°56 as inspiration. probably bought it from some nikkei. lots of japanese comics that wouldn't really catch the eye of a weeb
back then i also didn't appreciate it but i understood how important it was to escape the "only for kids" label and restriction

the 70s man... it was really something else back then

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Maybe because our film industry had been (and still are of course) extremely small and poor in comparison to Hollywood and those who were talented in visual expressions had very limited options other than drawing their images on paper with pens on their own.
And distribution of those printed media should be easier due to its limited size of the country as well.
As proof, as you may have already known it, the comic industry of this country has been progressively declining once the internet media started permeating into the society.

wow, that looks like my gf

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idk

Japan or death

Capeshit ruined the American comic industry. Old comic strips are way more aesthetically pleasing and catchier to read.
It's tragic that America lost this art medium.

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