Every day you encouter people. On your way to work, at work, in your free time etc
Seriously most people, even people that are really smart, are completely delusional. They have no sense of reality, know nothing about themselves, just like npcs.
It is really seldom that I meet a person whom I feel that there is something behind. It is like most people have a lower consciousness. Like lower animals. But how is that possible if many are also smarter than me?
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>how is that possible
it means you have an inflated sense of your intelligence
I think this every single day but I also think this every single day too.
>inflated sense of intelligence
>recognize that others are smarter than me
Hmmmmm
People tend to rationalise thier views actions in this world. Its the only way to deal with the absurdity that is. When you try to attack thier worldview they will get defensive if not almost violent depending on how far you push. There's nothing you can do about it.
Like I said there are people I can connect with, but they are rare.
>he goes to work
portray yourself as you like, but you're an NPC as well
few people have the personality, intelligence and self awareness to think like that. munroe projected his high iq onto the unwashed masses with that one.
I am objectively the only sentient being surrounded by simulated inferior NPCs. Try and prove me wrong, machine filth.
>I can't form a meaningful connection
>it's their fault!
>it's because they are so self-absorbed
wow.
I can form a connection with anyone. Sounds like you are just a total chump locked in his own brain-cage.
Normies are simple people. You're not completely wrong. I interact with people on a daily basis between work and school. There are definitely people out there who are more self aware, but the average person doesn't care about much. Normies don't care much about anything other than their daily work, going home to watch netflix, and getting drunk/high each weekend. That's all they aspire to do in life.
I can also form superficial connections with everyone. But the feeling that there is a real person with an own thinking is what creates a deep connection.
No, intelligence is complex and not necessarily concrete. This is why idiot savants exist and what diseases like Alzheimer’s turn geniuses into babbling idiots. The brain is one of the most truly complicated things in the known universe, we still have very little understanding over how it works and what we do know tells us that we are far from understanding the nature of our reality.
The simple acceptance that we don’t know very much about reality and existence and beginning to think from a universal perspective vs a human one will change the way you interact with everything around you, and will make you feel more intelligent than others. This is a specific type of intelligence. They may be better at math than you, or a musical instrument, or working vigorously towards a goal, etc., but live blissfully unaware of how relatively meaningless all of that actually is. This is an example of what user might be referring to in terms of having a lower level of consciousness - simply living from a small minded view, looking out from your personal and subjective location instead of looking down at yourself from outside.
When I share my thoughts about the nature of existence with others, one of the most common reactions I get is fear. People are often afraid to believe that everything they’re doing is relatively meaningless. They ask questions like “well then why do anything at all?”. That’s missing the larger point, it shows a core lack of understanding that simply being is a gift, meaning is an illusion, and there’s no reason to be depressed or scared or whatever because those things are merely chemical reactions in your brain. It’s nature. Atoms and molecules firing electrical impulses between the gaps in the super computer which is your brain. Nothing more, nothing less.
being "smart" has nothing to do with consciousness, they are orthogonal concepts. you were less smart as a child, but no less conscious, probably more. if you make an AI "smarter", i.e. improving its problem solving, it is not one step closer to gaining consciousness.
I guarantee your on LSD
I can already tell that your first problem is listening comprehension.
I diagnose that you should have been beaten up in middleschool but it didn't happen. It's like you grew up with crooked bones and no one helped set them right. Sorry bud.
npc spotted
haha you go to work you fucking wageslave and you really have the audacity to judge other wageslaves- yall suck including you OP
>But how is that possible if many are also smarter than me?
Computers are smart but they aren't conscious.
I bet you're a q'user poltard aren't you?
this is op.
>"meaningful connections"
what a faggot
I don't think the problem is with peoples intelligence or self-awareness or whatever, but more so that it's just extremely difficult to form close and open bonds/friendships with people.
I've known some people for 15-20 years and while I know them quite well, there is still some layer to them that I don't fully know, like I can't entirely trust their judgement or action in certain extreme situations. Fortunately I do have a couple friends who I'd trust with anything, I view them as actual brothers more than just friends.
The same for girls, you can date a girl, fuck her a thousand times, talk for hours each day, and even after years still feel like you don't fully know her, or she'll reveal some behavior that you would have never expected (usually a negative behavior like disloyalty or unfaithfulness)
I've thought about this for awhile now, musing on it for a couple years now: How do you truly, deeply get to know and trust someone? I can't exactly figure it out. Being intimate (with a woman for example, regular sex) doesn't seem to be the key. Being open and honest (telling secrets or deep personal opinions) can help, but doesn't seem to be the end-all, so I'm not really sure, but I think this is the key to what you're talking about with peoples apparent hollowness.
"firing electrical impulses between the gaps in the super computer which is your brain. Nothing more, nothing less."
you have no authority. you sound like a retard
Maybe its just your autism preventing you from feeling and listening to other people.
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Over thinking it there bro. It just comes to shared expwriences mostly. Positive and negative.
This is true but I find the argument „Then why do anything?“ to be true as well.
If you look at your needs/ambitions from the outside, you realize how pointless they are and you start feeling like achieving them is meaningless.
The fact that most people aren't fucking girls like that and never will because they weren't born Chad/aren't rich Hollywood starts and don't kill themselves proves how delusional people are.
imagine having so little empathy you genuinely believe people of all races, genders, cultures and intelligence levels think the exact same way as your 110iq anglosaxon dunning-kruger white ass
your just having an existential crisis op. its quiet common.
we need more dumb money coming in
This
Check em
I think I love you
Exactly the same feels I have
I even exposed this to my gf but she can't understand
Around me I see mediocrity sometimes I feel like I'm very different and brought to have something different to experience (I'm not saying I'm the smartest,coolest,alphast guy in the world)
i can't truly imagine having low iq but it could be a lot simpler existence i guess. maybe you could tell us all about it?
>wagecucking
>thinks he is smart
wew lad, 10/10. almost had me
ITT: butthurt NPCs
OP: most people don't seem "real" because they don't constantly wonder and question everything, like we do
Because most people you meet aren't your friends or seeking any sort of deep connection with you, only interacting with you to the extent that is needed while being more or less on auto pilot.
Then you, being an autist, do not realize that you are only observing their surface rather than the entirety of their being, leading you to conclude that they are as shallow as they appear.
sure, sharing experiences is good, but i have friends who i've grown up with, we've done crazy shit together, been in scary situations together, etc. and i do trust them to an extent, but from time to time they'll still do something unexpected, they'll zig when I thought they were going to zag. Then I wonder if I actually really know the person as well as I thought.
Obviously there's no absolute answer here, and the fault could be in me being weak in reading people for example (although I don't believe it to be the case -- it is possible)
That lack of absolute connection saddens me somehow, like I'll never know another person on this planet as well as I know myself.
Hahaha jesus christ. See? I keep saying zoomers are a bunch of psuedo intellectuals and look what we have here. Hahaha oh my god where did you retards come from? These are the people giving you finnacial advice, ladies and gentlemen. I bet you smug motherfuckers thought your posts would be saved for future redpill threads. Congrats your posts DID get saved but for future CRINGE threads.
>I scare people with my KNAWLEDGE
>His post is literally "what's the point bro?"
Yeah man we're sooooo smart because we invest in internet funny money
Doubtful. You're probably some normie brainlet who thinks circlejerking about television and occasionally virtue signalling about some irrelevant crap nobody really believes in is a "connection". There is no connection, it's a meaninless concept, like most normie shit. We're just isolated atoms of conscious experience, nothing more.
>People tend to rationalise thier views actions in this world.
Of course they do; ask yourself, would you ever do anything if you knew it was the wrong or suboptimal choice? Probably not, you'll always do what's best for you or those you care about. So when you challenge someones views or actions you're basically telling them that they've been fucking up in life and making poor, suboptimal, incorrect choices and most people can't cope with that, most people can't just say "oh damn you're right, everything I've been doing is horribly wrong and I've made so many mistakes, thank you for pointing this out to me so I can get better!" instead they almost certainly take a defensive or aggressive stance, as if to say "who are you to question my path in life!?"
I was stuck on that for a bit but once I realized that we instinctively always do what we THINK is right for us and our loved ones it all makes sense.
aspie cope, no better than waggie cope
Smart =/= life experience
People who have lived life and experienced lots of things, feelings, situations have a greater sense of being. That tends to translate into that thing you’re talking about. When you meet someone like that, you can click.
The thing is, everyone experiences a lot of the same- death, heartbreak, school, working etc. But not all actually are introspective about it.
So it’s a combo of life experiences, introspection, intellect, that make people
more self aware. And even then, that’s all falling on some spectrum.
This board is actually tasteful
>instead they almost certainly take a defensive or aggressive stance, as if to say "who are you to question my path in life!?"
Pretty much user. We've all received bad advice in some point of another. It's ok to admit you're wrong when someone smarter and with more experience than you tells you what mistakes you did in whatever subject you're striving to improve but it's also ok to deny any sort of advice from someone who is below you and doesn't know jack shit.
E.g An experience investor tells you what to invest in vs. some poor nigger that tells you what to do with your money OR A self made rich person giving you life advice vs. Some nigger who lives paycheck to paycheck giving you life advice
It seems shallow at first but it's really crucial to know where you're getting advice from. Hence the saying "your friends influence you."
The thing I have noticed is that close minded people do not really strive to improve because of part of what you and that user said. It wouldn't surprise me that this is part of the reason why post modernism is popular nowadays. People don't want to know that they're shit because it's a blow to their self esteem. To cope they spout out that everything is "subjective". Are you a psychedelic user by any chance? You seem wise.
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You can't. People aren't your friends - drugs are your friends
I don't think that's the case user. I think everyone is like you describe in your post, even you, or me. Even the smartest people alive. We all sort of run on autopilot most of the day. When you go make your breakfast, you don't think about your existence. You likely don't think at all and sort of just make your breakfast and eat. Sure you might think what you want to eat, but we could argue that's just your brain determining what would be the best for it at that time.
I think even the normiest of normies occasionaly have moments of realisation, short moments in their life where they just for a little while realize how pointless all of this is, how existence is for nothing. But ultimately they stop thinking about it and return to their normal daily life. I think it's just the way we are wired. If all of us thought like that all the time, it wouldn't be long until everyone would commit suicide. It's just your brain limiting those thoughts to prevent you from killing yourself.
I think smarter people tend to have these thoughts more often, but everyone with at least average IQ occasionaly thinks about this stuff. And I get that it's easy to say that that one stupid normie at work who only ever talks about TV shows and appears dumb as a rock never could, but people generally don't think about stuff like this in front of other people, or when they are with friends. These are thoughts that you have only and only when you are alone, and even that dumb normie at your work likely thought about stuff like that in his life, even if briefly and only few times.
Ultimately all of us run on "autopilot" most of the day. Smarter people tend to break out of that autopilot more often while dumber people more rarely, the dumbest people likely never experience stuff like that. I also think that depressed or sad and introverted people are way more likely to think about stuff like this.
>psychedelic user
>wise
its always these druggies that think they know shit
This
Even tho a shallow post ....its true.
Retired Chad here, now beta/normie tier
You guys sadly will never feel the glow in your body of being Chad. It's not the sex anons....its having the ability to turn heads of girls when you walk by and knowing itll happen before it does...
Nothing more fulfilling than that
>they think being a cs drone, or engineer beta with some money means making it
You do realize when you find out your used up Stacy was putting on an act of love the first few months while fucking Chad's while you were slaving away will make you feel like ending it right? And money isn't gonna help shit at that point itll be old news
You know after hundreds of hours of thinking about everything I came to the conclusion that it doesn't matter. Although I have to say that making a good trade on BitMex makes me feel good so I'll just do that.
I used to think this was true, but try and redpill some people about what's going on in the worl and you'll see they are retarded worthless clueless pieces of shit. most people are fucking retarded and it's a fact.
anybody know where the fucking ark of the covenant is? i've had that on my quest log for ages and want to get rid it.
go back to Jow Forums you underage faggots
Not really but most are afraid to do anything great and most people don’t think of doing shit like having a family and all of that in a serious way until their thirtiesZzz maybe.
Bruh look at this dude.
Redpilled, you are a LARP tho.
because getting your dick sucked by girls like OP is better than not
This is the death of god my friend. People are walking around soulless after being fed upon from, as alex jones calls them, psychic vampire pedophiles.
The schools, the work environment, the family. These people shove themselves into ill-fitting boxes because tv told them they should. If you present them with alternative realities, you are literally showing them a universe that they've tried hard to ignore.
Don't worry God is coming back with super ai. The individual is coming back with blockchain.
The problem with this guy is he hung out with such a huge idiot that he fooled himself into thinking he's waaaay smarter than he is
But what use is higher conscientiousness? I have come to believe most people have existential crises at some point in their life, myself included, but after a while you realize consciensenous is a burden and a curse (theologians have tackled this problem forever) , but in the meantime you still have to do the normal bullshittery of life to get by, still have to pay the bills, still getting old, still going to die...
I'm just waiting for death now, unfortunately I went over a certain precipice where I'm totally nihilistic and quite depressive actually. It wasn't worth it to ask and explore those big questions. I'd rather be living in blissful ignorance than being consciously aware of how fucked everything is, how much I have to climb out of the system to achieve 'freedom'.
the way i did it is by realizing that the time has to pass anyway. so once you have all these realizations understand that if you aren't going to suicide, the time will pass regardless of if you do anything or not. and i'd rather do something, invest, build, have fun, whatever - than be a depressive faggot. if you choose to live and are using your time to be a depressive you're literally retarded. accept and internalize your mortality and meaninglessness, and then while still knowing the same things, it's actually possible to live life positively while not being ignorant of the truth
I just told you there is going to be super ai and you talk about the inevitability of death. You think a super ai cares can't figure out death?
Come on man, there's more at stake here than you all know.
>These are thoughts that you have only and only when you are alone
Btw, socializing and seeking out other people, or even compromising your position just to be in the presence of others, is an ancient coping mechanism because loneliness is very real, and very dangerous. Loneliness opens to room to existential thought that you can't abate unless you drown it out with video games/movies/anime etc.
I truly believe even a lonely rodent has the capability of thinking... What the hell am I doing here. Have you heard about the necessity of keeping Hamsters / Mice in pairs of 2 when keeping them as pet. Yes they can get *lonely*. It's a concept that I bet you haven't contemplated very deeply.
Most people can become 8/10s with enough effort.
No I agree with you. I do my best to get by, but it's quite deceptive. I'm seen as as happy, cheerful, motivating... people want to be around me and enjoy what I have to say, being positive is the only logical conclusion all things considered.
But truthfully when I'm alone, I feel a deadness, no passion, no fire. Nothing. I don't feel intellectually remarkable, or again by logical conclusion, I should be rich, an academic or satiated enough to ignore my crisis until my end of days.
I am paralyzed by the infinite choices I could've made, instead I'm average in all things. As they say, Jack of all trades, master of none. And to excel in a capitalist system, it's better to master a trade.
Yes yes and then you have to pay rent and taxes and food for your children which shows you that this thinking is totally useful and appropriate.
The keys to happiness and truly the keys to Heaven's gates open for those who seek truth and knowledge. The gates open for those who can bear witness to horrors and harrowing, uncomfortable truths and come out on the other side stronger mentally and emotionally.
Ignorance is evil.
you're only halfway there. you still think you're special
>you still think you're special
Not really. Just odd. But is it wrong to aspire to be 'special'?
To become a 'specialist'. Which requires ambition, motivation and other keywords to achieve.
Unles you mean 'special snowflake'... which, no. If society was homogenous and 'boring', I'd fit right in.
Maybe you're too self absorbed to look from inside to the outside. Consciousness is one thing, but connectedness is what you might actually be missing. This is assuming you feel negative about what you decribed in OP in the first place. Reality has to be lived not understood, I prefer being present to being conscious. This takes certain kind of wisdom that again has to be lived not learned. That being said I feel you brother, we're social animals and if you can't engage in the same shit everyone's up to you tend to be lonely. Independence is solitude, when feeling good about it it's possible to connect with people on the level where your beings overlap without feeling like there's something fundamental missing. But it's a struggle. Truth sets you free and there's no going back
this is a very buddhist way of thinking imo, meditation can nurture this type of thinking if anyone is interested in learning more about this
for example you can separate things that just 'are' and things that are judgements you form in your mind, such as :
>It is raining outside today
>Damn, it's raining, I hate this weather
This is just an example but if you practice 'mindfulness' (seems to be a meme nowadays but cut through the bullshit) and you will get less triggered and think far more analytically and objectively.
no in the way that you pretend to accept the "reality" of purposelessness but also believe you must achieve something or be "special" to be fulfilled. this is causing your cognitive dissonance which is causing your suffering. you missed the most important part of your post. the "dead, passionless" empty vessel is you. not all the things you think you should be, or that others demand you be. and guess what, that's the "real" everyone else too. when the most successful man in the world is alone he feels the same, because that's the truth. but you're missing the truth. you're pontificating around the truth, because the truth is too uncomfortable. but if you can accept the truth, your problems of feeling like you're missing out or are special or even should be special, whatever that means, will be gone
exactly
if you work you should just give up life
Fair.
Is religion a big fat cope then? It's one of the questions I can't figure out. By religion I mean spirituality, the source, duality etc.
This is me pretty often I think
all religions are based around explaining the same uncomfortable truth and making it more palatable and comforting for believers. it's just that buddhists are the most straightforward about the truth and the others have more layers but it's all the same. that's why buddhism can be seen as a spiritual or even mental health protocol and not just a religion like whatever flavor you want to choose (christianity, islam, etc). this is because it's the actual truth, and the other religions are all based on the truth but have too many layers in the way to be as truly useful as just knowing the bare truth without dressing
You can't now the truth though. You live in the truth. There's certain things you can get rid of, but thinking you're going to be left with the truth is a new paradigm for your delusion, you may live with it comfortably like some people with other paradigms. But there is no absolute truth. Everything transform all the time and the most beautiful form of transformation is death, that's something to get comfortable with too. You speak wise words anyhow user, delivering this straightforward to provoke convo and thoughts
user, you're likely to benefit from reading "The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind" by Julian Jaynes. It's on gen.lib.rus.ec.
Consciousness is not intelligence, as you seem to know. People can make complex calculations without ever making a decision about how to do so. Consciousness is more about self-awareness, seeing yourself from the outside, as a piece on a chessboard or a mark on a map or a point in time. Animals live second to second with no awareness; prehistoric man did too. Literacy may have been what created the abstract sense of self. The book I mentioned goes into much more detail.
Oh, and since we're on Jow Forums, buy/sell a shitcoin because it's good/bad.
It’s quite strange, user. It’s why I do not take academia and learning so seriously. I was friends with a genius and I inevitably lost interest because he was so far removed from life. And a lot of other Ivy League tier minds I’ve encountered were just highly functional workers. Useful in what they were interested in, but totally lacked critical thinking of the world around them — as if they had no spirit. I’ve received endless amounts of odd compliments suggesting that I’m a highly spiritual being. I never confirm it to such people, but it’s interesting to me how they can see the light but cannot channel it themselves. Thus in my eyes they are of a lower consciousness. It’s a neutral thing you must accept. If it makes you feel better my presence deeply startles such people, and easily irritates the miserable npcs.
Spirit is the difference between you being an NPC or not.
This is why most people view true enlightment as resulting in a catatonic state - why eat, drink, speak, move, etc.? Wither away and die, it makes no difference. While a lot of buddhism aligns with scientific theory of the universe, I think ultimately it's a near impossible pill to swallow and NOT doing so IMO is proof that you are a victim of destiny. You can't stop your brain.
I feel you, my wife often gets angry with me when I start talking through these things, though sometimes she's very accepting. I think it's difficult for most people to appreciate there is an equal amount of meaning in meaninglessness as anything else. I'm not 100% sure what you mean by "mediocrity" but I would encourage you to think outside of "good/better, bad/worse" ideologies. I don't think I'm any better or any worse than another human, and I'm certainly not responsible for my differences as I was born this way and am a product of my genetics and environment. Nothing more.
I'm 35 years old and I read scientific journals daily which is mainly what has led me to these beliefs. Sorry for your anger.
Is it just your punctuation or am I having an aneurysm?
>You can't now the truth though
disagree
the truth just is. doesn't matter if you know it/think about it or not. you're living it like you said regardless. but if you're suffering it is because you haven't accepted it and you continue to struggle against it
This pic is bluepilled and I cringe that I used to think otherwise. Do you really think most people are introspective?
I hate to be pretentious enough to think this
but as soon as someone starts singing >jew tunes around me
i honestly want to kill them
Read Evola if you haven't already done so.
>Reading scientific journals makes me rlly smart
>Being 35 makes me rlly smart
Anyone can read scientific journals you fucking idiot!!! You really think that's an accomplishment? Wew lad go back to plebbit
>im 35 and i can read
LMAO
When's the last time you felt alive? Or laughed out loud? Were you aware of your consciousness at that moment? Thinking and understanding are great tools for planning and preparing for the truth, but very clumsy pieces of shit for being in the moment. There are interesting and important things for constructing our hallucinations. But the reality and our lives must simply be lived.
personally I feel that I was far smarter but less conscious as a child. It wasn't until 23-24 that I really started feeling truly conscious.
Sometimes I get depressed that even here on biz people are like unimaginative herd animals without personality. You guys love to shit on reddit, yet you guys usually are even more retarded. Still love you guys and all that.
perhaps we had a problem of communication which wouldn't be shocking given the format. this post shows me that we are saying the same thing. and you get it
But what is it that you accept? Isn't it a mental model of the made of concept of the truth? Or maybe you're talking about some more general practice of acceptance? Not defining the truth. But when we talk about the truth we're trying to communicate our hallucinations. The real uncomfortable truth may be there is no truth. We're all going to die
They're Trump supported...c'mon you have to be a complete idiot or have no empathy at all, but usually both. Btw, I'm not a Hillary or Bernie supported either but you are literally siding with a moron because of your inferior thinking capabilities