“A corporal named Houston narrated that while he lay wounded on the ground, after the battle of Soissons, he saw a young English soldier lying near him, delirious. A German soldier gave the poor lad water from his flask. The young Englishman, his mind wandering, said, “Is it you, mother?” The German comprehended, and to maintain the illusion, caressed his face with a mother’s soft touch. The poor boy died shortly afterwards and the German soldier, on getting to his feet, was seen to be crying."
The first worldwar was just an unnecessary horrible war
Isaac Martin
Wrong. I've seen them cry from joy when they piss on my face and ram my ass with a horse dildo while wearing a leather suit.
Brandon Jackson
Get help
Jace Gomez
Guess the allied wartime propaganda was so dense that it haven't worn off yet.
Christian Jackson
>The first worldwar was just an unnecessary horrible war
Yes, and it bred the second world war too. Let their suffering be a lesson to us. During WWI the soldiers took comfort in the thought that this war would be "la der des der", "last of the last". It never was supposed to get a number and a sequel - it was just the "Great War" and also last war. This must never happen again.
>unnecessary Yes, there's nothing more "unnecessary" than the defense of the homeland against a conquering agressor that seeks to snuff the light of liberty. The only "unnecessary" part of that war was Germany initiating it in the first place.
>It never was supposed to get a number and a sequel - it was just the "Great War" and also last war. Anyone who believed that was retarded and anyone who believes that about its bigger budget sequel is equally retarded. War is in human nature, there will be war as long as there are two groups of humans and one has something to gain out of caving the faces of the others in.
>This must never happen again. Yes, just focus on "never again" and get your shit pushed in in 2 months like last time. Don't prepare for the inevitable, just pretend it will never happen again... for the second time.
The anglo-jews started it. >Don't prepare for the inevitable, just pretend it will never happen again... for the second time. But the french did prepared for the second war. It just happened that they thought the germans would fight like they did in the WWI.
Either way, you're dutch. Your destiny is to be either ruled by germans, french or anglos.
Ayden Davis
Are you that one afghan?
Aiden Reyes
>Don't prepare for the inevitable We built and regularly update our own nuclear deterence just in case. But we won't start that shit again. I'm advocating pacifism, not non-violence.
Lincoln Reyes
France had national service right out of school in the first year of the war the deaths were so high they didn't put down all the names and just wrote the class of 1914
>But the french did prepared for the second war Not really... The 1930s were about paid vacations and strikes to get higher wages. Including in the weapons factory. As late as summer 1939 it was hoped that war could be adverted. When it broke out, France was hugely deficient in planes in particular (not nearly what was needed and to make it worse, the effective models were in even shorter supplies). Lack of anti-air and ant-tank weapons. Radio equipment. This didn't bode well for the modern war that a few had theoritized but the staff didn't believe in. France was ready and eager for WWI (the fools...) but neither ready nor eager for WW2. There was absolutely no reason for France to fight it, either. If Hitler had stood still, even after invading Czekoslovakia, there would have been no war.
Ethan Hill
What was the old saying again? 9000 deaths are a tragedy but tens of millions a statistic?
because I would rather kill every nigger in my own country than defend a single african
Brayden Miller
So you are that one afghan after all
Asher Torres
I posted something from 2 centuries ago because it's the last time the Dutch were vaguely relevant... France is kicking ass right now - unfortunately. Only, not in Europe. Never again.
Zachary Harris
Yes, because a handful of professionals in a foreign war is totally the same as citizens defending the homeland. You do realize that this exact mistake is what cost France the Franco-Prussian war?
ok retard
Brayden Scott
It's fighting those islamic guys there or let them conquer the country (and later adjacent ones) and use it for money and recruitment for terrorism in Europe. I'd rather fight them in Africa than in France.
Cameron Ross
Are you a refugee?
Asher Gonzalez
I don't care. Any European who dies defending Mali while our countries are being flooded with immigrants is a fucking idiot
Benjamin Sanchez
>I'd better patrol the desert with 500,000 conscripts in trucks than 2000 highly trained pros in helicopters.
I see that you didn't get any better in those 200 years ago...
>Franco-Prussian war Yeah. Those religious nutjobs are totally the same. FYI, the hard part is not killing them, it's catching them before they disappear into nothingness.
Wyatt Howard
>I'd better patrol the desert with 500,000 conscripts Woah there nigger, what does that have to do with protecting the homeland? Professional armies are suited for such adventures, which is why your whole "HURR DURR JOIN THE FFL THOUGH GUY" argument is retarded.
Lincoln Gomez
Godverdomme nu mijn land uit.
William Morgan
If the religious fanatic take over Mali, many of the Malians will move to Europe... and as war refugees, they'll be taken in. So all the more reason. If Mali falls, thousands of the population will be converted and become terrorists, hundred of thousands will migrate. Not to mention, the conquering forces will be free to do it in another country.
Jayden Anderson
Wollah G ik geef niet om deze kk land ik zit hier voor het uitkering
Luis Torres
The Serbs started it
Asher Baker
This but neither are Amerimutts
John Mitchell
Protecting the homeland against WHOM? We have nukes for that, and troops (which aren't sent to Mali), with heavy equipment, like MBT and MRLS. Plus, we still had mandatory military service until a few years ago, and I served 10 months myself actually. If things look menacing again we'll reinstate it.
Kayden Garcia
Who cares. Unless things change drastically here it's going to happen one way or another. A country collapsing into war will only expedite the process
Levi Roberts
>Plus, we still had mandatory military service until a few years ago, and I served 10 months myself actually. If things look menacing again we'll reinstate it. >If things look menacing again we'll reinstate it. >If things look menacing Wars don't announce themselves ten years in advance, mate. You spend peacetime preparing for war. It's effectively "please don't kick my ass" insurance.
Matthew Ortiz
>Who cares Well, me? you don't in Ireland? If you're okay with refugees, then you can take them which solves that part of the problem. Remain the terrorists, and unfortunately they always tend to go for France first, until our police adapts to their new tactics and the terrorists go for other countries. Happened in the 80s, 90s and 10s waves of islamic terrorism. So if it's okay with you, we'll still fight the islamists in Africa and the Middle East.
Gabriel Robinson
Soul SOULLESS
Kevin Baker
Woah what the fuck? That's goddamn atrocious
Henry Gomez
>Wars don't announce themselves ten years in advance, mate Yeah because once military service ends and you're 19, you've only got 10 years left until you're 29 and completely unfit for duty.
>You spend peacetime preparing for war. We launched a new class of submarine only LAST WEEK... we're busy working on the next fighter plane and tank with Germany... electric artillery... antidrone weapons... yet another submarine class... It's not like we're idle. Spending 2% of GDP on defense, and it's scheduled to increase. It's just that it's enough for today's situation. Our nukes keep us safe, and 10 submarines don't require 3 million people to man them.
Cameron Jones
reading fictional novels from that time, i'm sure it could had started anywhere but yep, Serbs ignited the powder youtube.com/watch?v=h66dI0q_9As
Jaxson Wood
By the end of the war, some French and German infantry units had taken 400% casualties, ie the original soldier had been killed, then his replacement, then his replacement and then his replacement.
Jacob James
>Reserves and the national guard don't exist The entire male population from 18-30 is nothing to sneeze at. Unless your country has shit demographics like France of course, then it is something to sneeze at. Guess you're fucked then.
>Spending 2% of GDP on defense, and it's scheduled to increase. Only because Trump hammered on it. If not for that, I bet you'd be cutting it right now to get your yellow vests more handouts.
Austin Garcia
Everyone was ready and eager for WWI and had been preparing for years. Nobody realized the carnage that mass conscription and modern weapons would entail. There had been wars all the time and they all "hadn't been that bad", some were even short and sweet. So it sounded like fun.
Noah Perez
>There had been wars all the time and they all "hadn't been that bad", some were even short and sweet. The 30 Years War was both longer and, in terms of casualties as a total percentage of the population, far deadlier. Percentagewise the bloodiest war England ever experienced was neither of the world wars but the English Civil War.
WW1 is exaggerated to serve an agenda: the optimistic and frankly foolish idea of a future without wars. The world wars have effectively become a new Founding Myth (especially for the EU itself).
Colton Baker
what's that poster say en inglés
Evan Russell
>Unless your country has shit demographics like France of course lol, it's like you think it's the 19th century again.
The joke is that your 19th century demographics were actually better. 2.08 is still below replacement level (2.11), and that's including the third world migrants who are overrepresented among your births. At least that's the assumption, because your country is pathologically afraid of numbers and prefers to implement policies without knowing the facts.
Your next post is that Dutch demographics are even worse.
Jaxson Williams
>The 30 Years War was both longer No shit? And guess war, the 100 Years' War was even longer!
But they only concerned a small part of the population, either the tiny armies who took few losses (by WW1 standard) or the villages that were directly in the way of looting. For 95% of the population, wars were a distant rumour and "hey, remember the cousin of the baker's son? well he got killed in the war". During WW1, every family in France lost somebody. Some family lost every fit male.
You couldn't do real damage with armies that had to be supported by kings of agricultural country - you couldn't mobilize enough people to start with, and they didn't kill each other as much. And pretty soon one side ran out of money to pay the soldiers so the war ended.
But in the industrialized (and more populous) countries of the 20th century, you mobilized 3 million people, gave them machineguns and shrapnel artillery, it lasted 4-5 years because money was less of an issue seeing the guys were paid trinkets - end result, millions of them didn't come back.
Blake Ross
They only did it because R*ssia promised to protect them if Austria found out. Just as in 1939 and with the Syrian refugee crisis Moscow was the hinge that decisively and deliberately risked the stability of Europe for its own ends yet Berlin gets all the blame
Noah Mitchell
>But they only concerned a small part of the population
Population of France in 1969: 50,466,183 Population of France in 2019: 65,466,634 an *increase* of 15 million during the past 50 years.
>third world migrants Yes, because those make absolutely horrible troops? I mean, look at their performance in the past wars - useless. Useless.
>Your next post is that Dutch demographics are even worse Errr, no, why? what does the Netherlands have to do with anything? are you planning to start a new war? well, good luck - you'll need it.
Colton Martin
society was way more fragile back then. People just scraped by without war, i think it was something like 4 full time farming familys surplus could only feed 1 soldier on campaign. A war in their land for an extended period, famine, women who had to shit out 9 kids to keep the population stable being killed and it sends the population into decline. ww1 shouldn't be forgotten because it was mostly military that died and the entire thing only really came about because of tensions without much greater cause. I mean france which had 40 million had more soldiers killed than America has in its entire history.
Dominic Flores
The German states were silly enough to host wars for decades. That's what happen.
And explain how "there had been wars all the time" became "30 Years' war" You do know there have been hundreds of other wars involving European nations?
