DJT - Daily Japanese Thread #2216.6

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おはいよ みんなさん

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あ。。。。ちのちゃん。。。
いいよ。。。
素敵から。。。

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Jacking off in the middle of the night again

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I can't tell if that's a man or a woman. Probably a man.

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Just SauceNAO'd it. Trap & Shota

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タワリシチ

I had some questions from this passage:
いかにも高尚な死の恐怖 should be parsed as [ いかにも高尚な ] [ 死の恐怖 ] right? With the sentence itself meaning "Moreover, it's a vulgar, yet vulgar fear?"
And this part「貨幣が貨幣として成り立っている事と変わらない不可思議と同じ」is really confusing to me, and really the sentence after as well. But I'm really lost on how to parse 「~と変わらない不可思議と同じ」specifically. "Similar to what is treated as currency and how that mysteriously never changes"?

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>いかにも高尚な死の恐怖
any ideas of fearing death which they believed to be noble
>貨幣が貨幣として成り立っている事と変わらない不可思議と同じ
It's just the same as the mystery which has no difference from the fact that currency is treated as currency all on its own.

I think the second line is a bad sentence, It'd be clearer if it's
>貨幣が貨幣として成り立っている不可思議と同じ
"It's just the same as the mystery that currency is treated as currency all on its own."

Thanks! If I may ask, how are you interpreting the ほど then, in 高尚な死の恐怖ほど?

“The more noble the fear they may believe to be(, the more vulgar it is in reality.)”

Oh... that kind of ほど. I guess I'm only used to seeing that usage in patterns like 〜ば...ほど.
One last thing, this parallelism with 先送りにされた is vague/meaningless to you too right? I guess I fail to understand what the writer is saying with 価値としての貨幣 and whatnot.

Yes, it an absolute drivel.
Maybe the author is trying to say things like
>the currency has hardly value on its own but people regard it precious because it yields a secure result of being changed with something actually valuable.
>So it's the just the same as the fear for death we are discussing. They are nothing but the feeling or expectation for secure destinies in the same fashion and if you call money vulgar, there is no way those fears are not! (and I think my English is really terrible this time.)
This is far-fetched and meaningless. In the first place if the fear or uneasiness for uncertain and insecure future is comparable to money, why are we this poor!?

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Half of what you fellas are saying in Japanese I don't even get it lmao, I know N5 lvl kanji and almost 0 grammar. May god have mercy on my soul

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lmao same haha

What do you do? I study with courses on Udemy, and 2 weeks ago I found this DJT here and, those links and guides + studybooks are extremely useful

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This guy and the Canadian user always stumble on really shitty writings which are totally vague and confusing even for us and bring them on here. No need to feel in that way desu.

Hmm, I replied to myself and that was actually meant for (you)

Hahaha. I also read Raw manga sometimes, and believe it or not, I actually kinda get what they are saying, even though I know Kana, but the meaning I get from those few Kanji's I know >"oh so they are talking about that, so in the current situation they could do/use that in that way"

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ああくそ
この天気はとってもとってもファッキング暑いだよ!

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>Courses
lol

Uh, yeaaaaaaaaa. I learnt quite a bit thanks to them. They are well made, and on Udemy 200$/€ courses are most of the time 12$/€ - 35$/€. So far everything that I have bought and learned on Udemy, I can easily say "worth every penny"

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> aa shit,
> this weather... something
> fucking... idayo

Oi, user. Did I get it right, or nah?

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And that's why you still don't know anything about the language you gullible idiot

UUU shots fired huh. Or maybe because I was learning only kanji N5 level, I know how to use "desu", I also did learn some basic shit from anime (watching subbed for more than 5 years). A week ago I started learning grammar, aside from that I also need to fuck with shit for school, and I also study CyberSEC & Adobe.

That's why I'm not the grammar expert you wish me to be, you faggot.

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まさに地球温暖化だな

いい度胸。よし、合格だ。お前には覚えられるでも無駄遣いのをやめて欲しいんだ、この言語は簡単すぎて金は必要ない。時間はたった一つの値段なんだ。暗記もやれ。

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Clever... I understand some stuff, but not 100%. I don't know N4 & higher lvl Kanji.

Well, how long since you started learning 日本語

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>いい度胸。よし、合格だ。
>お前には覚えられる(。)でも無駄遣い*をやめて欲しいんだ、(。is better than comma here)この言語は簡単すぎて金は必要ない。時間はたった一つの*対価(but it still sounds bit unnatural though..I mean much too stiff)なんだ。暗記もやれ。

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1 year and 1 day

Sup /djt/.

I am making a Japanese deck with sentences sorted from easiest to hardest. One new word is introduced at a time.

Here is a preview. Do you guys think this could work out?

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Well then, congrats, I started in december, but at that time I didn't study alot. I got a lot more serious in march and now after 4 months I am know basic of basic kanji, and unlike grammar, I'm more successful with vocabulary. But again, complete basics.

Lemme guess, you learned JPN by reading those DJT guides and study books, spammed Anki a lot and talked to JPN folks on this thread.

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>> aa shit,
>> this weather is... really
>> fucking... hot dayo!!
However, "暑いだよ" is an incorrect usage. Y ou should say "暑いよ" or "暑いんだよ".

I fucked around the entire year doing almost nothing and reading barely anything.

UUUUU. user, you had my curiosity, but now you have my attention.

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I think the most important thing for me was not being a 100% autist and not wasting time on everything I see like you.

Seriously what the fuck is your fucking problem?
Also,
>Wasting time on everything I see
like what? I am actually trying to learn something here, and for that you гигaнтcкa пичкeтинa think I am an autist wasting time?
Well guess I will just waste time trying to actually have a normal conversation with a пeдepacт like you

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じゃあ金は必要ない、時間は必要。
You act like reddit and I don't like your filenames, you say you've been learning months but I don't see any worthwhile progress when you can't even read simple posts. You are wasting time on some useless shit, in months I learned far more.

#1 I don't go on reddit buddy, it's a fucking NPC infested shitshow.

#2 Those filenames I put myself so I can quickly find the image i wanna post, since i have a fuck ton of reaction images, and I don't need to spend 10 mins to find every pic.

#3
>in months I learned far more
Aight, if I am wasting time, then can you tell me how to "do it the right way"? I seriously don't know why dafaq suddently you got so salty towards me. This isn't Jow Forums or /b/ where everybody is calling each other "nigger" and are literally expected to get shit on.

BTW, will this file name be better?

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No fighting. This is a friendly place, unless you're a retard that's meta complaining.

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>like you
rude
Maybe he mentioned the Brazilianon's post which you replied and didn't want you to do that as maybe he though it's meaningless to make a list which contains all lines likely to appear on anime.

I'm not salty, I'm telling you your learning method is shit, you're wasting tons of money on some useless courses. You say you don't have much time on your hands for the language but you use one of the worst methods to learn. You need to optimize your learning method then because with the courses you'll never learn this language unless you want to spend thousands of dosh and hours on useless scams.

I just did Anki like a madlad for 6 months, core6k and a mining deck at the same time. Some grammar on the side from Tae Kim guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar as well, sometimes read some Yotsuba. After I finished core6k I stopped giving a fuck about Anki, it's useful at the start but gets worse and worse with time, I only do new cards nowadays and skip reps to not waste time on that shit anymore, I'm focusing more on reading Yotsuba, watching tons of anime and reading grammar from DoJG itazuraneko.neocities.org/grammar/dojgmain.html
There's also shitposting in this thread and having natives correct me sometimes, but at the start Anki is very important, it just shits thousands of kanji and words at you, best crash course.

might as well invest your time on smartphone games..

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There, thank you.

If you learned so much in just 1 year then I admit, that your way is better.

But also I didn't only watch those courses, but I made my own kana & kanji practice sheets in Word. (btw, I "wasted" 34€, which I wouldn't call "thousands of dosh")

Also I use jisho.org for extra help with kanji.

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オートミールを今食べております
塩とショウガとシナモンに加えて、バナナと粉状ピーナッツバッターも入れております
これはメリケン朝食

Dude just fucking start up anki already

He's just the resident bully who sits in this thread all day instead of studying Japanese.

>暑いだよ!
静岡の方言みたいでちょっと笑ってしまったw

行くだよ
するだよ
食べるだよ

wiki.chakuriki.net/index.php/静岡の言葉
>静岡のことばで印象に残るのは語尾につける「だよ」。標準語では「~するのだよ」「~するんだよ」と間に助詞が入るが、静岡では「動詞の終止形+だよ」(例;~あるだよ。~食べるだよ。)

I already did. I installed Core6k 3 days ago.

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Put new cards to 50 so you can be like the cool kids

Will this be ok :3

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And yesterday was his birthday so you can say something nice to him like
>ナイス馬齢!
>冥土の旅の一里塚!

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No, you will suffer but receive great power

>great power
... of the dark side.

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Oh you started a day after your birthday?
We all started from there, enjoy the way!
core6000.neocities.org/dojg/
imabi.net/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:AMB_Japanese_Verbs.pdf
might help you make it more enjoyable
The Pole is always talking like that, don't take it to seriously, he's a nice guy at heart :)

REDDIT

I started on my birthday

Ah, vielen dank mein herr. Gut zu viesen das der polischer kerl eine tsundere ist.
(sry for shit GER grammar lol)

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Anybody miss when these threads were on /a/?

Yea, what are you still doing here?

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No because I wasn't learning Japanese back then, but also yes.

I never understood why the /a/ mods rejected the threads. They were a mainstay for a long time and to be honest I prefer the board culture of /a/ to Jow Forums.

Ah nice!
>(sry for shit GER grammar lol)
It's fine, except
>viesen das der polischer
wissen, dass der polnische

I am doing 10 new cards per day and I can't be bothered to do more. Choose wisely. Your daily reviews will be 10* the daily amount on average.

20 would be my personal absolute max.

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Actually you are right, I put it to 60 to please Polish user, but now that I look at it again, you're making sense, I will put it down to 20-25.

It kind of depends to be honest. At the beginning when you're still struggling with everything I would agree with low new cards, but after that first hurdle you can set it to 40-60 for quite some time before it really piles up.
>NordVPN
be careful my friend~

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>low new cards
low amounts of new cards

Ah no worries user. I had NordVPN on but I wasn't connected to any server. I really am from SLO. I forgot to close it from before when I was watching WW2 videos on YT that were "blocked for hate speech" in my country cuz there were swastikas in them. Some of those videos were the "Deutsche Vochenshau Nazi newsreels"
>be careful my friend~
Why is that? Im not doing anything illegal

暑すぎて死ぬ

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I am not sure if it still works, but you used be able to get around that by changing your location at the bottom of youtube / with youtube-dl, although they recently properly removed a lot of those videos.
>Why is that?
kuketz-blog.de/android-nordvpn-uebermittelt-e-mail-adresse-an-tracking-anbieter/ dodgy~

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>ごしごし
ffs when does it ever stop

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What's wrong with that?
It's a common one as well.

HOLY FUCK, Thanks for the heads up. Well, I think this tracker is neutralized by my AV and browser, but if it doesn't then fuck it. I only use VPN to watch stuff that the EU boomerfags think is "innapropriate" for me and block it (WW2,Nazi stuff,etc.).

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Tracking like that is done by pretty much everything nowadays.
But considering how cheap and widely advertised it is, there's definitely something fishy going on.

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>grown men watching Sailor Moon and worse
lmao @ you

I haven't watched Sailor Moon in forever. Guess I should get back on it.

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Is there a Yomichan, but as android app, so I can select text in any app and share it to the lookup app?

Sorry for the late reply, but I appreciate the help again.
I was stuck wondering if it was simply meaningless drivel, or if my comprehension was at fault.

Is there an adjective for something to be relaxing/soothing in nature? Like comfy music.
I asked a native speaker and all they came back with was くつろぐ and いやし which don't quite fit.

Something like そのBGMが「●」ですね。

癒やされる

Maybe I'm interpreting this wrong because of yomichan, but it comes up as heal/cure as in therapeutic. Does it function the same as 'comfortable' the way we use it as 'comfy' to talk about music and imagery?

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Maybe 快い?
That one is only one phones, but yeah what said, especially since they don't seem to respect your privacy.
Sag das Zauberwort und du hast die Macht,
halt den Mondstein fest und spür die Kraft!
>imagine not watching Sailor Moon
youtube.com/watch?v=pYYn-HSJfyU

>got Zombieland Saga because of our German friend
>it's all without subtitles

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Have fun with 佐賀弁

Not planning to watch it without subtitles, considering I can barely make out words, much less understand them on the fly~
>is it that much slurred?

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Not slurred, it's just a rare dialect that no one here knows

Oh. Guess that's it for Zombieland Saga then

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I mean you can just watch it and understand whatever you understand.

That's how I do it with most shows airing right now.

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For me that would be
brable brabble word brable word word
So I'd have to playback a thousand times

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It gets better.

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I recommend watching 異世界かるてっと if you just want to try for comprehension cause I could understand almost the whole thing without rewinding once.

Advanced bump strats

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youtube.com/watch?v=QZmW_WmfEtY

Frogposter had objections with learning Japanese from Japanese material lmao.