According to an article published in the Journal of Economic Perspectives, economists have estimated that removing "labor mobility barriers [immigration restrictions], the estimated gains are often in the range of 50-150 percent of world GDP" (Clemens 84). Of course, these gains may not be distributed evenly, but it doesn't appear that there are many people that would be harmed by this. The same study noted that "the literature contains no documented case of large declines in GDP or massive declines in public-service provision at the destination caused by immigration" (Clemens 93), "there are also many plausible positive externalities from increased immigration" (Clemens 93), and that "all serious economic studies of the aggregate fiscal effects of immigration have found them to be fairly small overall - small and positive at the federal level" (Clemens 93).
With this information in mind, do think it would be a good idea for countries to loosen their border and immigration restrictions?
This is true. Why do you think american elites love immigration? It's good for the economy. And as we know, the only thing that matters is the economy.
Juan White
How long would you allow an immigrant to have welfare until he integrates?
Parker Rivera
Come on, you know your country have shit culture. Everything is unorganized and people in general are very corrupt. Third world countries need to change culture first.
Joshua Nguyen
Eat dick. I do not want people to immigrate and help the empire remain as powerful as it is now. First thing we must do is kick out the US from here.
Christopher Sanders
spic hours are just the worst. trump 2020 can't come fast enough
Brayden Roberts
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Carter Bell
No the first thing you have to do is to get rid of the security issues and corrupt politicians. Then you can start making better relationships with other countries. Just like El Salvador is doing right now. Fuck off, Central American culture is the best.
Benjamin Rodriguez
All of the money in the world would be just as valuable as all of the money in the future, retard.
Juan Robinson
An article published in the National Bureau of Economic Research found a "a positive and significant effect of the 1990-2004 immigration on the average wage of U.S.-born workers overall, both in the short run and in the long run. This positive effect results from averaging a positive effect on wages of U.S.-born workers with at least a high school degree and a small negative effect on wages of U.S.-born workers with no high school degree." This article focuses just on the U.S., but the effects would likely be similar in other developed countries.
the entire argument relies on the premise that you can import people endlessly and they won’t have any affect on the things that actually cause increased productivity in western countries I.e. legal systems, infrastructure, social norms etc all tof those things that would supposedly cause increased gdp would be destroyed instantly if you imported a billion third worlders
William Young
save the environment. kick out illegals. the good life
Jace Edwards
said the racist people are interchangable cogs with no differences at all
Benjamin Adams
Would increasing global migration and GDP get in the way of those other things in life?
Do you have a version with sound? Otherwise, anybody could have just added those subtitles even if he didn't actually say those things.
Also, it doesn't appear that the gains would just be limited to the elites, and, at the very least, migrants themselves would gain a lot. "If half the population of the poor region emigrates, migrants would gain $23 trillion" (Clemens 85).
>source: an economist economists are all shills for the rich
Ryan Williams
Firstly, do you have any better sources? Secondly, there are plenty of economists, such as Paul Krugman for example, that are quite critical of the things the elites do. I will admit that I don't know much about the authors of the articles I've cited.
Brayden Jones
>Firstly, do you have any better sources? there are no sources because economy is as much of a science as astrology or alchemy all you can go by is history and it's been demonstrated that mass immigration has been a burden on western societies orchestrated for the benefit of a few
Brayden Nelson
>sanders opposing easy votes for his party ballsy
Josiah Jenkins
>there are no sources because economy is as much of a science as astrology or alchemy Why do you say that? This may have been true in the 1700's and 1800's, but modern economics is about as empirical and scientific as, say, physics. If you doubt their methodologies, just read the articles I've linked.
>all you can go by is history and it's been demonstrated that mass immigration has been a burden on western societies orchestrated for the benefit of a few Examples?
Hunter Evans
If by physics you mean weather forecasts for more than two weeks, then sure. They have similar rate of success when predicting future.
Jacob Scott
>security issues Literally unsolvable without solving the root problems first, and those are unsolvable without changing the system >corrupt politicians they are but a product of the system. changing the system so it represents the people fairly would piss off a few nations (mainly the hegemon of the north)
Kayden Stewart
>muh money muh gdp yes goyim yes yes yes hnnnng capitalism must be destroyed
Grayson Edwards
funny how whiteoids are starting to reject capitalism while china rises. what's the matter firsties, too stupid to compete?
Juan Myers
the rise of china was solely because of greedy western capitalism
Josiah Ramirez
It is hilarious how mongs blame mass migration on the left when it is all these corporate cock suckers that literally see no issue with replace entire populations just as long as there is a bit of growth.
Daniel Wilson
I 100% unironically agree with this. t. B.A. in econ MBA in international finance
Justin Morris
>Muh GDP is everything fuck off toilberg, ensuring a good quality of living for all through socialism is a better goal for society than buying porky's second yacht.
Kayden Cook
Based
Camden Gomez
and i wonder whose pockets most of that money will go into
Noah Phillips
china is rising because of capitalism retard
William Rivera
This is obvious. From a purely economic perspective, closed border is stupid, as it raise the wages artificially.
Benjamin Williams
>consumerism distracts us from the important things in life, like hating foreigners
Angel Moore
t. Commie
Zachary Edwards
Kys capitalist kike
Adam Morgan
that's the point you fucking moron. capitalism was supposed to bring about peace all over the world, but once a foreign power plays the game better than the west, whitoids cry foul and want to take their ball home. pathetic
Robert Fisher
Kike
Luke Jenkins
Communist retard. Anti-semitism is a big no no here
"better" as in having more people, stealing shit, and industrializing and modernizing late is useful to have the country built on newer infrastructure. Of course india and china will be leaders eventually it is mostly just a catchup game for them as the number of people they have will always make them that way
Asher Collins
>"better" as in having more people, stealing shit, and industrializing and modernizing late is useful to have the country built on newer infrastructure this completely describes how the british and countries in europe saw the rise of the united states in the late 19th / early 20th century. the hypocrisy is unreal
Angel Baker
it can be true in both cases
Asher Hill
only if we construct projects in rich neighborhoods to house them. make the rich faggots that benefit from it, also suffer the consequences.
Hunter Garcia
Open borders can increase the GDP says nervous globalist for the 8th time in four years as the economy crashes being unable to handle so many economic immigrants. . .
Jose Davis
Isn't immigration a bit of a taboo subject in economist circles?
Xavier Perry
american economy keeps growing while european economies stagnate. the US is way more lax on immigration than europe. to deny the economic correlation is ignorant
Connor Rodriguez
the us economy is different from europe's in a number of ways
Evan Hill
Economics isn't a science. Anything economists say can be ignored.
William Rodriguez
Only white people benefit from the growth
Cameron Green
the world has only so many resources what happens if we start running out and the borders are wide open?
>Only white people benefit from the growth lol that's why trump got elected right. jewish capitalists and their legion of h1b worker bees accrue capital at the expense of the average american, who are still nonhispanic white. whites lose spots in upper education, have to pay higher taxes to fund ever ballooning social services due to increase in immigrants. whites are having less children, marrying later, and rent more often than own homes. it's the global elite who feels no allegiance to any particular country who benefits from the growth, not "white people"
Austin Reed
America also has far less welfare
Jaxon Bennett
and we have the military budget of all the EU countries and then some
Eli Fisher
you're overrating culture, if people have similar opportunities in life they behave the same everywhere.
Alexander Roberts
no they don't
Nicholas Bailey
This user is right.
Dylan Mitchell
bernie is based
Charles Watson
lol
Jordan King
based from him
Adam Murphy
>Of course, these gains may not be distributed evenly understatement of the century
Colton Nguyen
>muh GDP HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Yeah right because safety, high trust and preservation of culture are so irrelevant! More GDP doesn't mean shit if your country turns into a shithole. A country is not just a marketplace.
Carson Flores
yeah i dont think any country has welfare for immigrants yet 5 years, it's the global standard
Nolan Bailey
>More people more gdp Wow amazing conclussion, what about quality of life and crime?
Bentley Anderson
all the rich people will live in gated communities. they dont care.
Lincoln Thompson
he will win
Hunter Gonzalez
America for Americans
Ryder Brown
The damage it causes to social cohesion, the political system (especially if the immigrants are muslims) are not really counted. Furthermore, as the study itself points, pretty much every country but a few would get brain drained to death while 4 cities kept all the wealth and skilled folks
Luke Murphy
>modern economics is about as empirical and scientific as, say, physics AHAAHHAHAHA OH NONONONONO
Oliver Edwards
Of course it would increase GDP when an immigrant moves from africa to Europe that individuals GDP increases to that of that country (maybe less than average but still a massive increase). Of course it would increase competition for jobs tenfold because third worlders work for peanuts and put a massive strain on resources but the rich dont care about either of these things.
Isaac Carter
Obviously only a few elite would get all the cash while the average joe would see their status lowered
Luis Price
yes but it would fuck the low end job marker in highly developed countries so nobody would vote for it.
William Kelly
>rich get more money if we import slave labor neat.
Easton Wilson
I'd rather be poor and sleep with my doors unlocked than have le GDP memes with mud slaves running around raping people
Yes, you can hire a cheap Venezuelan doctor in a field you have a short supply of, but would you really want to?
Christian Cruz
>BRO THINK OF THE GDP BRO!!!!!!!! BRO THINK OF THE ECONOMY MAN BRO, BRO JUST, HOLD ON BRO, JUUUUUUST THINK OF THE ECONOMIC GROTH BRO Reminder that this new wave of politics which seems to primarially focus itself on the economy is just a symptom of a larger disease which is eating away at the heart of cultures around the world. And this disease is corporatism.
Mason Ross
This disease is turbo capitalism
Jason Young
idiot. parasites cross borders not to work but to get gibs.
why didn't they think of Why their "literature" has nothing in it? it's because no-one in the world so far has open borders with countries that are way shittier than their own. and the ones like Arab Emirates that import slave labor have are fascist and have police forces that mercilessly beat down any grumbling masses.
Asher Morales
That means I can buy more pointless stuff for my wife's son!
It would improve the global GDP, improve the revenue of the large companies and the wealth of the rich but drastically decrease the per capita GDP of the natives. Unfortunately in America nobody understood that
