Why are Asians already outperforming white people when 99% of them are first and second generation immigrants?

>asian migrating to america are usually upperclass in their home countries
that may be true for Chinese (recent only) and Taiwanese, definitely true for Filipinos and Indians but not for everybody else

Because rich people raise kids to take entrance exams for schools therefore they have experience sitting for standardized tests unlike the poor kids who don't know what they're doing. And these middle class/rich kids would go on to have comfy lives regardless, barring black swan incidents or substance abuse. Only a retard wouldn't understand this. Psych """"studies"""" are little more than taking one group of kids who have practiced for the SAT for over a year, comparing their score with another group of kids who are taking the test cold, observing that the first group scores higher and going all HOW COULD THIS POSSIBLY BE HAPPENING??? That's the IQ "test."

Do they? No Asians here except for the few who run those resteraunts and Thai hookers.

same groups tend to perform similar to matter where they are, even though cultural, linguistic, factors change, I wonder why that is

Asian kids are raised in a standardized test factory and their parents drill their children accordingly.

>already outperforming
>already
What's that supposed to mean? Asians are probably just more intelligent and always have been.

Almost all the graduate students at my uni are Asian. Why don't white people pursue PhDs?

I know 3 2nd gen Chinese people through my gym.
All 3 of them their parents have a Chinese restaurant where they work 4 days per week. They all go to university (surprisingly enough social studies). They work their ass of at the gym and often have a job besides working at their parents because it doesn't pay.

Asian-Americans spend more time studying than whites, hispanics and blacks, but that's not true for Asians back in Asia

Asian here.
I was forced to take 26 SAT practice tests before taking the real SAT.

PhD's are not that valuable in today's society and most white people struggle getting a masters within 8 years due to constant travels to Thailand and Costa Rica.

IQ as a vague notion of "is this child literate and can the child employ quantitative reasoning" exists but the test is a shit-tier means of measuring it and it's been a meme for decades for a reason

most asian immigrants are from those countries.

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There is no equivalent to the hardcore cram schools that exist in Korea and Japan

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>things only low IQ people say

t.low iq monkey with shit SAT scores.

>There is no equivalent to the hardcore cram schools that exist in Korea and Japan
You can still put more effort into learning for your highschool and university than other students.
I spend like 2 hours per week studying at my highschool. Shouldn't be too hard to outperform that.

>t. teenager who brags about college entrance exam scores and flashes his mensa card

Asians are just smarter. Twin studies show that life outcomes are mostly determined by genetics.

I don't know about PhD's but one of the reason of the under-representation of non-hispanic whites in at universities at bachelor level (relative to their absolute numbers) is that poor whites don't even bother to apply to elite institutions anymore, defeated people

They don't get weekends off. Over many years it adds up, but they also become souless in personality. Robotic

>Russian bragging about test scores
>Average Russian IQ: 97
>Average USA IQ: 98
What's going on, Ivan, you don't even have any Mexicans

>Twin studies show that life outcomes are mostly determined by genetics.
they show that the heritability of traits is very high, but not necessarly the outcomes, for example the correlation between IQ and income although linear is always around 0.1-0.3

they are like insects
they dont do it because they are really interested in their studies

They have muslims instead

>they dont do it because they are really interested in their studies
There isn't a single person in my class who's interested in the subject at hand. People just want a degree so they can get a job. Only at absolute meme studies you will find people on the spectrum who are interested in their studies.

>wh*Toid moves the goal post ONCE AGAIN
Why are you guys so dishonest?!!!

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China doesn't let normal Chinese out of the country and US doesn't let poor people into their country, so it's all Asia's top 1% rich people with highest education.

Asians study 18 hours a day and come from incredibly rich families. How is this news to anyone?

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Korea yes, Japan no
but the time spent in hagwons in Korea it's (kinda) counterbalanced by the time spend studying at school, for example in Korea time spent in primary schools is similar to Finland, time spent in seconday school is similar to Finland and time spent doing homework is also very similar to Finland, most of the difference in time spent studying in Korea and other countries is explained by time in hagwons

non-hispanic whites spend as much time studying as hispanics (any race), so I guess that explains why they score so similar on IQ tests and school assessments right

Hispanics are poorer and live in the most anti-intellectual environment possible though

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Show me that racially-based IQ discrepancies propagate through income brackets and this claim might have merit. Shouldn't be hard to find if such trends really existed, right?

see also bera.ac.uk/blog/what-if-east-asias-high-achievement-is-not-the-result-of-longer-hours-of-study-cram-schools-and-exam-pressure

researchgate.net/publication/327054946_Is_exam_hell_the_cause_of_high_academic_achievement_in_East_Asia_The_case_of_Japan_and_the_case_for_transcending_stereotypes

researchgate.net/publication/323988104_Stereotypes_as_Anglo-American_exam_ritual_Comparisons_of_students'_exam_anxiety_in_East_Asia_America_Australia_and_the_United_Kingdom

researchgate.net/publication/316355117_Imagining_East_Asian_education_otherwise_neither_caricature_nor_scandalization

it's called the "Asian Exceptionalism" phenomenon, which should be called "East Asian Exceptionalism" instead btw

That's retarded though. All asians and even africans outperform white students, it's not just an east asian thing

they're talking about poor Asians, or how Asians outperform even though they don't have as favorable conditions that "should" explain performance (like foreign-status, non-native English, etc.)

>even africans outperform white students
what

Yes, poor asians and africans outperform whites
come to Australia, all of the top students are blacks straight outta africa

>all of the top students are blacks straight outta africa
pretty sure they are not a representative sample of all Africans, (very) selective migration

Even the poorfag refugees outperform whites, user

I never get sick of White people's belief in their biological superiority come crashing down when confronted with undeniable evidence to the contrary. The panic, the excuses, the insults. It's never not funny

lol

The vast majority of whites aren't nazis lmao what are you talking about

every goddamn thread
kys you piece of weeb

>asians
>smart

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They're dumb as bricks at everything other than taking tests. It's a shame, really

Never understood the purpose of these racialist discussions.The world isn't some perfect meritocracy where everyone can show how smart they are.People are people, we eat, sleep, wank, poop, etc. No need to put people under a damn microscope.

let them cope

Did you called me?

What was going through her head during all this?

man, the nazis were very anti-IQ and psychometrics

emilkirkegaard.dk/en/?p=7472

this and in socal they pay cash up front for college/uni so they are allowed to cheat without harm

outside of tech they are not your competition

that piece was written by a Spaniard

Is there literally anything in China that ISN'T a deathtrap?

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most people can do fine with a bachelors and dont want to do extra school that may lead to more debt when they can get a big boy job already. This is especially true for shit like CS or engineering where the bachelors starting salary is already high enough so most grad students will be foreigners as the pay increase from india to the US is much greater than any pay increase for a US citizen going from a bachelors to a masters/phd

Asians take schooling seriously and reward their kids for doing well in it and hire tutors and stuff
White boomers don’t take academics seriously at all and only really care if their kid is failing

chinksect aren't people, so they're smarter

putting aside her dumbness, why would the driver still driving in despite seeing the lady right in front of it?

see

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You’re projecting something at me I never implied
I don’t get what your point is

mexican weeb bringing in international stats for US asians kek

I guess that explains why Hispanics and Whites score the same right

It's automated, there was no driver

In the United States there exists a norm for children to participate in household chores, sports, and miscellaneous family activities up until the age of 18. Asian Americans however deviate from this norm, that is, Asian American children are seldom found in any activities outside of academia upon entering secondary (high school) education.

In Asian American communities, there exists a high density of tutoring centers and after school education centers. In fact, there are more educational facilities found in Asian communities than in any other community, even moreso than their white counterparts found in a higher income bracket.

In short, all the time that would otherwise be spent on sports, household chores, or socializing with extended family is substituted with academic work in the Asian household.

Now, relative to all other demographics, you can easily see why Asians are the highest performing on standardized tests. Whites as a group only have a minority of high performing students, while the others are more business orientated at a young age, or tied in with some sort of sports activity. Hispanics are more likely to participate in sports and physical activities given that the Hispanic household usually requires the children to take on household responsibilities at a younger age. In short, Hispanics do not go out of their way to make time for studying when there are other things that need to be done.

Here is a scenario: there exists some sort of maintenance job around the house-a broken faucet for example-the Hispanic family will take time out of the child's day to fix the problem while.simultaneously teaching the child, as opposed to an Asian family that will spend the money to make the problem go away, utilizing the rest of the child's time for academia.

In short, Asian Americans get higher test scores relative to their non-Asian counter parts simply because all of the Asian American child's non-leisure time goes toward academia.

They are separated from us by a vast ocean therefore the ones that come here mostly do via education visa and then following that marriage and then family reunification so that creates a cluster around high achievement.

They have a historic culture of civil service tests as the primary means of social mobility.

All their societies are conservative and marriage and household creation are tightly controlled.

They provide prime mating and matching opportunities based on education-derived success rather than say culture based (music, sports).

And sorrynotsorry some advantages in genetics, physiology, complex language and culture.

>In Asian American communities, there exists a high density of tutoring centers and after school education centers. In fact, there are more educational facilities found in Asian communities than in any other community, even moreso than their white counterparts found in a higher income bracket.

This is true. However this is a function of their culture having civil service exams. And more importantly those exams not being limited to any class or group but just open based on raw perfomance

When defining academic work, we are strictly talking about all knowledge found within the secondary school classroom. Asian Americans seldom seek knowledge outside the classroom because ironically it is thought as a waste of time. The majority of Asian American kids, like most Anericans, are nit intellectual curious

That is, Asian Americans see school work as a chore, and will continue to do so up until they've obtained a career. This is also true for any sort of extracurriculars the Asian American does while in high school.

>a note in Hispanics in America and education

Hispanic children are also less likely to be engaged in academics because of the standards of the parents. In other words, the child might make an effort to study, but the parents from their limited view might just conclude "my child is just sitting their all day writing, he/she might become lazy later in life."

Thus, the child attempts to juggle two different lifestyles, and ultimately is outperformed by his counterparts.

>t. Tutor in a predominately Asian-American and Hispanic household

>household

I meant households

That is what Pinkos do all the time though. Brag about scores and points.

you get the same effect in UK with Indians and Pakistanis and no one in the world is claiming that every Indian and Pakistani is an IQ superhuman

it's selective, same thing with Hong Kong PISA scores and what not

>you get the same effect in UK with Indians and Pakistanis
just the indians, the pakis are all inbred thickos who end up either working in paki shops or molesting orphaned girls

The surnames on a vast majority of research papers over the last two decades or so would like a word with you sir.

Interesting.
Best Friend is Asian American (viet)male and wife is German. They just had a kid.

I sometimes joke with them and say they need to “narrow the achievement gap a little” because every waking moment for their child is a learning opportunity. I think it’s great but there’s no way the kid of some 19 year old in East LA or the South Side of Chicago can compete with just the basic level of attentiveness they provide to their child.

And this dude came here on a refugee boat from ‘nam and worked his way up.

This is an interesting note.

So it can be assumed those who didn't land a civil service job back home were deemed as failures, this explains the mentality seen in Asian Americans here.

However, this can also be counterintuitive to the Asian American high school student. Universities also look at extra curricular and activities outside of the classrooms when considering potential students. In other words, a high performing student is just the minimum these days.

IMO most Asian Americans aren't genuine at all when it comes to extra curriculars and CV padding activities outside the household. However, this leads me to question if anyone is genuine these days.

Show me the research. I've read the OECD reports, there's a correlation between time utilized for studying and test score achievement. I'm explaining the why rather than the how.

>refugee boat from nam

I also live near a Viet community, but I've predominately interacted with Koreans. I can imagine that the Vietnamese community-being a post-war refugee community-is arguably one of the more tightly knit Asian communities in the United States. In other words, they really help their own, so he was arguably in a better position than refugees from other parts of the world.

Also, regarding competition, it's not impossible for a economically marginalized child to succeed in academia when compared to a child in a more affluent household. I'd say the internet is a double edged sword, and if utilized correctly, can bring insight to even the most marginalized of individuals. Also, suffering does help at times. Being able to climb out of a situation helps in character/endurance building, and ultimately leads one to success. However, these are seldom cases.

Asian men also outperformed whites in the bedroom

This

Sorry for the delay. I was referring to the fact that asians are authors or coauthors of a vast plurality of post-graduate scientific research today belying more than a passing interest in the pursuit of knowledge and academics.

I agree with you that innovation produces “great equalizers” so to speak such as the internet being a window for that inner city child. However the doted wealthy child has the internet AND parents that impart her with knowledge.

I am not concerned about the difference between the two from a standpoint of equity in the least. I am concerned with the collective loss we get from the inner city child not being able to live up to their full potential.

they probably raise the average tbqh

Because theyre nerds

russians exams are harder than SAT though
gosh i could ve got into berkely/mit with my mediocore phys/math school exams