Youtube is slowly committing suicide
>randomly demonetizing videos
>shilling cable TV shit (same reason people left TV for youtube in the first place)
>encouragement of shitty vlogs over everything else
So what happens next? I don't want to go back to the days of cable TV
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all part of the NWOs plans to stop the truth spreading
Move to BitTube or Bitchute.
>ban non-approved youtubers
>promote large corporate interests
>enforce the correct opinion
Nothing to worry about goy
What is preventing you from watching the content you like on Youtube? What aren't you able to watch due to Youtube's marketing strategies to which you previously had access?
>cable tv
>shitty vlogs
it shills you the stuff you click on lad
I don't get that garbage
not if people stop making videos because they are no longer making any money
I'm pretty sure a lot of people don't know how to use internet properly. They go to trending or recommended videos when they're looking for content they're subscribed to. Fucking hell, nigger, the "Subscriptions" tab is right there, click it and you won't miss content.
Sure it sucks that they're pushing garbage via the other channels, but Subscriptions always shows exactly what you've signed up for.
Who has stopped making videos due to Youtube's marketing strategies?
>What is preventing you from watching the content you like on Youtube?
The people stopped making it because there isn't money on Youtube anymore. Their videos get randomly demonetized. If you've ever tried making an interesting video yourself, it's actually a lot of fucking work.
Look at the trending section
BitTube is utter garbage. Bitchute isn't all that great either but it doesn't look like there's a revenue stream for content creators.
>tfw your YouTube channel is growing and it's only a matter of time before something goes viral
Why should Youtube be responsible for helping people make money using their platform? I'm sure the executives at the top of Youtube aren't thinking, "We could make a ton of revenue by hosting a certain type of content...but that'd be a bad idea because we need to make sure that every retard with a web cam can monetize the shitty content they put together. We should spend our own money and resources to help these people out that we don't know!" If someone you've been watching can't make money on the content they're creating, it just means that the content isn't valuable enough to people where they're willing to pay for it. I'm not sure why anyone thinks youtube should help these people financially.
Congratulations on your proficiency in studying black people culture. I hope it helps you in life.
Library Credits will replace Youtube
Are you retarded?
>be responsible for helping people make money using their platform
Because then people will stop using Youtube altogether. They don't visit Youtube to look at the Youtube logo, they visit Youtube to watch content. And if that content isn't being created, people are going to stop coming. It's just the classic tale of the CEOs getting greedy and forgetting what made them rich in the first place.
>it just means that the content isn't valuable enough
No, it means Youtube is randomly demonetizing videos
Cool idea but until it's in a web application, no one's going to download and install that shit.
is this guy serious?
My only source of entertainment are watching lolis on YouTube and those shitty ass edits they make. All bets are off they are next on the chopping block
I just hope it helps others realize what a shit lifestyle it is
YouTube will reap their just fruits
No, there are plenty of people successfully making a lot of money and drawing enormous amounts of traffic to Youtube. Just because you don't like that content doesn't mean other people don't.
And if youtube demonetizes a video and these content creators cannot monetize their own content in a different way, it means that that content isn't particularly valuable to the viewers.
For example, Alex Jones. They demonetized his content, but he has a fan base that finds his content valuable, so they pay to consume his content. Furthermore, he is entrepreneurial and has devised alternative means of generating revenue to disseminate his content.
>Youtube
It's because youtube is the deep state, and the deep state doesn't care about your user experience.
Try bit.tube. Convince content creators to import. There is literally no downside to being on both platforms.
I'm very entrepreneurial and have been successful in several endeavors. When I hear these faggot content creators whining about Youtube changing policies or demonetizing their content, all I hear is uncreative faggots that expect others to help them. No one should have to help you in any way. If you want to do something, figure it out, and if you can't, no one has to help you.
I'm sure you all are probably referring to a bunch of shitty right wing content creators too that are constantly whining about youtube demonetizing their content. A bunch of these people became popular in the past few years spouting libertarian ideals and making fun of people constantly playing the victim card, and as soon as things don't go their way, they start talking about how they're owed something by Youtube and how they're victims of a corporation. Fucking faggots.
>BitTube
Looks like a scam :
bit.tube
If the viewers and the creators are rewarded, where does the money come from??
Maybe it should be called ponzitube?
Also, some of you need to start thinking more broadly about Youtube and how it is a great analogy to Corporate influence on the American legal system.
Before large corporate influence, individuals could voice their wants and needs through politicians with money. Dollars essentially represented votes. When corporations were treated as individuals, it became impossible for actual individuals to compete with the massive amounts of dollars the corporations could use to pay for influence with politicians, lobbyists, etc.
Youtube has followed a similar trajectory, and you are seeing what the massive amount of corporate dollars can buy.
>fruits
The money comes from the blocks mined. Once the platform is established you will need the token to pay for premium services or even to support content creators directly (like patreon)
Found the salty content creator
Twitch is the new king
Meh. I make money through crypto trades and make some of the best youtube videos as a hobby. It makes me better than everyone else without even trying too hard, even if I do work hard in my videos. Honestly, with patreon, people are able to make a decent amount if they only consider youtube a side hobby rather than an actual job.
Producing content for a mass audience should highly lucrative. The only reason it's not is because Google captures all the revenue and takes everything.
> Bit.tube
It is lucrative but I hate the 'create or perish' mentality since I'm more concerned with making videos as an art that have mass audience appeal. So removing yourself from any financial burden or goal ends up putting the quality of the video above everything else. Plus, on youtube, my videos are demonetized and I don't have ads enabled, so it's not like it matters.
You keep justifying why it's ok to be stolen from. No, working at another job for the majority of your day is not going to make you better at creating content.
It's going to make you a boring slave automaton. Your creative goals will suffer and your shackles will tighten until it's just not economically feasible to continue.
The same thing happens to game modders. It's the death of innovation & creativity to line the pockets of the already wealthy.
Nothing is stolen, I give it freely.
they are mostly demonetizing alternative media you dunce
You guys should be pushing crypto based alternatives. This is Jow Forums afterall.
Where is the love for Dlive and Dtube?
You're an idiot that's why I'm not responding to you anymore. You clearly don't understand the platform-creator relationship.
And if the consumers of that content don't want to pay for that content directly and/or the creators don't want to find an alternative means of putting out their content, then who cares?
monetizing videos was the biggest mistake they ever did
they attracted a bunch of leeches that just make vids because of free money
You miss the point - making videos is a lot of fucking work. The more videos for Youtube, the more money. The have disinsentivized people from doing this now.
Crypto is in the toilet, tired of talking about it
I'm a content consumer. I was thinking about trying to make a channel but from what I'm seeing with these people I'm subscribed to that have 2-5 million plus subscribers, even they're calling it quits.
>Producing content for a mass audience should highly lucrative
It should not, any asshole can make professional videos investing $5K+time. Since it is now cheap to produce content to entertain the masses, we have a higher supply, while the demand is not going up - a price correction leading to less profits is natural.
In time, making shows and movies will also get cheap enough for everything to be funded by crowdfunding, and TV, as we know it, will die.
I really hate the posters on this website, they will suck corporate dick all day long as more and more people are driven out of a means to make a living. It's incredible.
>making videos is a lot of fucking work.
cry moar leech
>Crypto is in the toilet, tired of talking about it
Crypto is bottomed out. That means now is the absolute best time to be talking about it.
I've made over 200 bitcoin. I don't care how much work I do.
What exactly do I not understand about it?
> Give corporations and governments control to shut down content.
> Surely they won't abuse their power.
Youtube controls the audience. They control what children view. They will pump it full of lies and propaganda to serve their own interest.
Your children will have to recite a pledge of allegiance to unlock their youtube account so they can watch a trans gender reassigned fuck explain to them how they are responsible for all of the wrongs in the world because they have a white skin tone. Meanwhile you will be too busy serving your slave overlords to even care.
It IS highly lucrative, for youtube. There is an insatiable appetite for quality content. You are being brainwashed.
See
The only person making any goddamn sense.
You retards are calling the content creators - aka THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE THE CONTENT FOR THE WEBSITE as leeches. It's hilariously absurd.
I really think you are probably one of those corporate interest groups that shill on behalf of whoever is paying your organization.
Hosting a bunch of videos doesn't make youtube money. Do you understand Youtube's technical requirements at all to host all of that content? Do you think they just have some magical cloud to store information? They have to pay for massive data infrastructure, enormous amounts of talented developers, etc. I guarantee you Youtube isn't making ANY money on the vast majority of their hosted content. They're doing YOU a favor by offering you an easy way to host and share video content. On top of that, you want them to PAY YOU for using that service too?
It's obvious we are getting shilled. Even the stupid intelligence agencies shill online these days.
Youtube's demise due to greed and government takeover is a market opportunity.
BAT
they are entitled pieces of shit
they don't deserve anything
create your own platform for your content
>comparing government power with youtube
I can just pirate some animus for them, and they will be better off.
Kid, youtube is how you get your audience. Once you have it, you monetize by other means - patreon, sponsors, etc....
Stop being a communist faggot, of course they are going to profit, but so are you.
People in this board are such fucking snowflakes, when Jow Forums will learn that they have no place here?
Black id
Black like your soul
Same scenario that has happened several times before. Site gets shitty, people migrate away, a few new challengers crop up to fill the gap, one or two win, the original site loses viewership, either fixes the problem or dies. This process can take several years.
You have an incredibly naive view of this. I don't mean this as insulting, but I'm imagining you are under the age of 25 with absolutely no experience in making money in the real world. I'd be surprised if that is incorrect. I'm not saying that to be insulting, I'm just saying that you shouldn't argue about things that you can't view objectively and from a financial perspective.
Do you know ANYTHING at all about Youtube's business model? About the numbers associated with the company? There may be "an insatiable appetite for quality content," but that is only the case because it is FREE for the consumer when using Youtube. Youtube has to figure out a way to host content without directly charging its viewers. They accomplish this through advertising. Advertising buys influence. Furthermore, Youtube is a corporate entity with associated points of view.
Even if they demonetize your content, they are offering you TREMENDOUS value in putting your content out. If you have a following and cannot monetize your own content, that just means that it isn't valuable enough for people to pay for your content.
This, they never learn
It will take probably a 5-10 years or so for something to replace Youtube. We are just now beginning to witness the slow death of Facebook after its market domination for the past decade or so. Nothing has really replaced it except for Snapchat but it's still dying nonetheless.
>For example, Alex Jones. They demonetized his content, but he has a fan base that finds his content valuable, so they pay to consume his content.
Fuck me m8, you literally just proved that guys point.
> Youtube is a content hosting website
> Youtube takes down Alex Jones content
> said "Content" is being offered via a new content hosting site
> Youtube now has a new competitor in "Content's" sector
It's cannibalizing itself. You don't see it as a big deal because you don't like Alex Jones, and that's fine, but you're missing the big picture. Replace "Alex Jones" with literally any youtube content creator.
and now I'm disappointed I even bothered responding to you before reading the rest of the thread. You're laughably short-sighted
Content producers should not have to work 40 hours at their 'real job' then another 40 hours at making their twitch or youtube channel.
When they finally run out of steam and kill themselves, we all lose out on the creative & motivated. It should be that combination who become the upper class and provide a guiding light for inspired youth.
The same thing happened with the perpetually poor on twitch after the amazon acquisition.
Stop sucking on the dicks of corporations/governments and look up.
Software engineer, much older than you. I've seen this happen over and over. The team finds a product-market fit and then each sprint, they figure out how to monetize their userbase further.
First, it's improving sign up flow or recommending better videos. Then they capture their audience, increase the amount of revenue they receive and start censoring things that could drive down conversions.
They treat you like sheep, kill the creative ones, and you rub your head against them and baaa.
You're just not following my point. My point isn't that Youtube may be making bad decisions based on the content they ban or demonetize. My point is that those decisions aren't the ultimate cause of someone being able to access content--in other words, Youtube isn't the only place to host video content. If you can't watch the content you want to see on Youtube, then watch it where it is hosted. Youtube isn't preventing anyone from releasing content.
Then that's even more disappointing. If you have an issue with Youtube, put together a content host that is better and that you think meets "creators' " needs.
Making a video is so much fucking work.
Planning, traveling to location, filming, maybe creating a set, getting the right shot, multiple takes, lighting, switching out your battery, switching out your memory card because you ran out of space, pulling the data off the card, uploading it, importing the clips, cutting the clips, rewatching the same bit over 30 times to get it just right, doing this for all the clips, creating/adding an intro, adding effects, adding music, creating/adding an outro, saving/rendering the project (can take hours), then creating the thumbnail in photoshop/illustrator, uploading the video, adding all the tags and descriptions, then going on your other social media accounts to announce your new video, adding new posts to your social media accounts to keep up a following - it's literally a full time job and then some.
>Stop sucking on the dicks of corporations/governments and look up.
Again, you are a fucking moron by comparing something like YouTube to a government.
No one is forced to using fucking YouTube if they don't want to, if you find it so bad, just literally go out and compete with their platform if you think that you can do better, but seeing how you are bitching in an aboriginal canoes catalog, we all know that you are just too incompetent to do so.
It's unfortunate a lot of people have migrated to Youtube because it was the biggest platform. A lot of other platforms died in the process of this. Now Youtube is basically turning around and saying "thanks, suckers" and screwing both their creators and consumers.
Sure, another platform will emerge in time. But it will take probably another decade or so to undo the damage that Youtube's monopolization of the market has created.
Know what else is too much fucking work?
Making a hourglass by yourself. Are you implying that those that engage into this activity are owed money just because they are doing something time-consuming?
Why should you not have to work 40 hours per week? Why should Youtube have to pay you for your content if you're willingly uploading it to their website and THEY are paying for your ability to host it, share it, and gather tons of analytics regarding your content? So Youtube should just say "fuck it" about their profit and just go into endless debt because people like you don't want to work and feel like they should be paid to put videos on the internet?
How about you find people that think your content is so good that they're willing to pay for it? That is how real entertainers/artists make a living.
>implying you could afford the bandwidth
Apparently they are owed money because they sell those hourglasses for a price, they're not given away for free. What a terrible comparison.
Just because it takes a lot of work doesn't mean you shouldn't treat it as a hobby.
The ads are becoming a nightmare
Icant be the only person feelin this
Well, that's life...
> Just make a better youtube if you don't like it HURR DURR
They captured the attention of the general public. You cannot replicate that by hosting your own videos on your own stack. It has NOTHING to do with how technically feasible the implementation is.
They STOLE from you and are KILLING the creative of your generation. Yet you continue to defend them like the automaton they hope you are.
>he thinks Youtube is paying for your ability to host out of the good of their heart
wew
This is the best explanation. Hopefully we will have a decentralised video platform soon.
No one is arguing that it isn't "a lot of work." But "a lot of work" doesn't mean that someone should pay you for it. Going in my back yard and hammering rocks into sand for 10 hours per day is a lot of work too...but no one is going to pay me to do that work.
The creative & innovative should enabled by a functioning society, not saddled with debt and unlivable situations until they give up or kill themselves.
They are killing the best of your generation and are getting rich doing so. Twitch streamers have a poverty epidemic.
youtube started out with people just making videos for fun. They added the ad shit later
It is valuable, youtube just keeps all the value. They have the government to help them keep and enforce the monopoly
It is valuable. People are watching them. I would watch the ads if Youtube didn't demonetize them. Creators with 2-5+ million subscribers are valuable.
No, it is a good comparison, because retarded people here are implying that even though NO ONE wants to pay for those fucking videos in particular, YouTube should.
What are you doing here if you don't know what an adblocker is?
Stay poor, envious brainlet.
If you can't make money with all your creativity and innovation, you should just die, fucking cancer, this is the real world, not your special snowflaky safe space.
> They have the government to help them keep and enforce the monopoly
Brainlets actually believe this...
From whom did they steal? If you are entertaining/artistic, they offer literally the best way in human history to put out your artistic/entertaining content and to reach large amounts of people in a way that is unprecedented.
It's your fucking job to figure out how to use that tool to make money.
A lot of people knew this would happen basically dying MSM coopted and now youtube is just an outreach of conan and all that garbage. independent creators just got way too big and (((they))) knew they couldn't allow that to happen. there will actually never be another pewdiepie,h3h, or defranco, or whoever
If they have 2 to 5 million subscribers, they shouldn't be reliant on youtube to pay them. Youtube has provided them a way to get their content out to millions of people. The fact that youtube DOES pay most of these people is an added bonus.
I'm not a youtuber and have made it through software already.
You are wrong and your willful negligence is part of what's causing the best among your generation to shotgun themselves in the face.
>Brainlets actually believe this...
Fuck you shill. I know people at google who complain that the only way to get a top salary at google is to be a high level government employee first.
>If you can't make money with all your creativity and innovation, you should just die
Why should I die because you and your Jewish friends decided to charge me for something that is free, such as water and land?
Alphabet is literally an arm of the IC (Intelligence Community)
If there is value in what these people are doing, they will be financially supported. It isn't Youtube's job to decide if what they provide is valuable nor is it Youtube's job to carry them financially.
This. Youtube exists to host. Nothing else. Everything is inconsequential.
Guessing you gave up on your dreams to meet financial obligations. Don't be ashamed, it happens to everyone that isn't insane.
It is the theft of dreams and time, the theft of potential. What could have been, if only the shackles weren't so tight.
Some even grow to like the shine of their shackles.
I see, I was focusing too much on Youtube shenanigans than the focus of argument. Should have followed the thread more closely
> Content producers should not have to work 40 hours at their 'real job' then another 40 hours at making their twitch or youtube channel.
Is content production slave labor? Nobody is forcing them to do anything. Anyone trying to get into the entertainment industry is naive as fuck if they think putting in "real-work" hours will yield "real-world" pay. Shit, that's not even true if you're successful. Youtube is undoubtedly the largest free content-streaming platform, why should they offer their services and usage of their platform for free? Why should they not be allowed to control the content on their website?
Similar to this guy Youtube isn't the only place to host or view content. Literally no one is stopping content creators from moving to another platform (excluding contractual obligations of course)
I see your underlying issue though: Youtube is the biggest content platform and therefore they can make the rules/influence the content they provide,but without the mass amounts of content-creators they would cease to be the biggest content platform.
At the end of the day though, Youtube is a fucking business and they don't owe you shit. You don't like their policies? Don't patronize them then. All of this "muh corporations" bullshit is exactly that, bullshit. Now, if Youtube was somehow the only content platform, or a government sanctioned content platform etc... then we would have real problems.
Fuckin A i'm rambling but you just sound like a looney man. You can't expect people to take you seriously when you are trying to support your arguments with "They stole from you and are killing the creative of your generation"
There are people waiting on the sidelines to try to take anything of value you have. Ask any creator. Google's just figured out how to automate this process.
I also agree with this. Youtube is shit, but successful. It's our fault for allowing them to get this big (similar to Facebook) and this dominant, but you can't blame a business for being a business.
If your dream is to "make music" and you suck at making music, well sorry dude, but no one is going to, nor should they, waste THEIR OWN time and energy figuring out a way to feed, house, and provide money to you while you sit around making shitty music all day.
(You)
>randomly
>At the end of the day though, Youtube is a fucking business and they don't owe you shit. You don't like their policies? Don't patronize them then.
They control the audience. They control what gets highlighted. They control the attention of the young, raised on their ipads.
Me not visiting youtube will have about as much effect as me deleting my facebook account. They know this, you know this, yet you peddle their agenda.
We need a censorship free p2p platform, without middlemen, to emerge. Bit.tube is the best I've found but I'm open minded.
Otherwise we will continue to have entrepreneurs continue to get trapped in the lie of youtube monetization. Until they decide to hang themselves.
My dream was to make games and it was nothing but traps for the young, motivated and naive. Luckily my skills translated well enough to work on goddamn rails apps for a decade while my best years and creativity languished.
It's happening now, on a much bigger scale, with skillsets that do not translate. Prepare for a much bigger suicide epidemic as the gig economy plus lies of class mobility (with closed doors) cause the next generation to bow out.
>the gig economy
That's exactly what it is. People grinding in multiple ways to make a living - making t-shirts, making websites, making apps, working multiple jobs. Now Amazon is even trying to sucker people into taking on the costs of their own delivery fleet.
What if we did have a p2p platform, without middlemen that provided ALL the services of youtube for free (somehow)...and then no individuals paid you for your content (or maybe you just get your aunt and mom to send you $5 per video you make and comment "great stuff champ!"). Because if you can't make money using youtube, this is the exact thing that will happen to you. Sorry to say...
What would your complaint be then?