>be high school teacher >assign kids to easy 4-person group projects >everything seems ok >group starts fighting among themselves >tell them to work out their communication problems and work as a team >Day comes to turn in project >I get an anonymous letter saying who did and did not work in their group >their homeroom teacher talks to me with my fucking boss telling me that MY project is causing his students to fight constantly and that they won't leave him alone about it >I inform them that I matched groups based on ability with a mix of strong and weaker students in each group >Boss agrees my project is the problem and says that it's absolutely unacceptable to match them that way >I tell them that if the students are having problems in their groups, they should speak with me personally instead of bothering their homeroom teacher >Everyone, coworkers and boss included, is mad at me now >Performance Reviews are tomorrow >tfw gonna be NEET again it seems If you think office politics are hard, it's worse when you're dealing with literal children.
Any advice / office politics thread? I know this isn't your standard 9-5 office job but I'm introverted and just so lonely Jow Forums.
>"You shouldn't force the really shy girls to do math in your class. By making the girls do math in class, what you're actually doing is reonforcing the idea in their heads that they are bad at math." If I don't make the students who are poor at math, boy OR girl, do math, how the hell are they ever going to improve? I've actually been told this pretty much verbatim by my [female] supervisor. This is what liberal universities are teaching people about education.
Andrew Jackson
No pls. I don't want ny thread to die. Jow Forums. I'm sorry for blogging.
Isaac Sanchez
Sounds like you're a shitty teacher bro. I taught for 5 years before moving on to a real career, and this sounds like first year newbie shit.
How exactly did you tell them to "work out their communication issues"?
Jaxon Morgan
I liked your blog
Jonathan Reed
What the hell was I supposed to do? I am new, yeah, but what did I do wrong exactly? I basically didn't say anything to them. We walked throug h the project together and they worked on it during class. They were then gicen the due date to finish and reminded many times along the way. Then the day comes to turn it in and they pull this shit. Why they're bothering other teachers about it at all is beyond me.
How do I move on to a real career?
Hunter Fisher
op fell for the diversity meme and pit idiots with smart people
Easton King
I realized part way through that one boy and girl in the group didn't really like each other. I told them something like it's important to be able to work as a team and maybe they could divide up the duties of the prohect so everybody is doing something.
The people who force me to do this shit are the sane idiots spouting this: Yet these are the people reviewing me.
You think I don't know Kelsey Poorkid who lives with divorced parents, has a 3% in my class, and plays Fortnite 24/7, isn't going to be top of her class? It's easy, obviously the only real answer, and fun teaching the kids who want to learn, but doing so will lose me my job. I am a wageslave and nothing more.
Parker Walker
Being a teacher nowadays is suicide. One of my relatives admitted to a "Looney bin" because of that. Children nowadays are too cuddled. Remember the boomer days? If you did shit at school you got punished. Sometimes the teacher even hit your fingers. Nowadays if you pull that shit up you get fucking fired and put on a sex offender list.
The future is grim KEK. Nowadays children are raised in a very safe and cuddling environment. I can see it from my sister who im trying to sometimes teach not to cuddle too much children. She told me a story of parents aggressively forcing teachers to put better grades or reporting them to the principal for bad work. Its literally a meme nowadays for children. They will be raised in a way that if they dont get what they want, the adults get punished. Expect this to get worse. We are living in a SJW society. If you say anything bad or negative you are cucked.
The irony here though is that when those children become adults and start facing the shit we have to face they will automatically give up or start blaming others. Thats your problem. You are not following the norm which is set by your colleagues. You can thank them! You have to be a bitch in the system or you will be an outcast. Thats why teaching is such a meme.
What can you do? Written above or just change your fucking speciality man. Dont kill yourself over children. They are already fucked anyways and its not their fault. Its their parents fault. Start looking up community colleges or go work on something dangerous, gather up enough money (high pay) and then get a degree on something solo and high pay (programmer?). Then you dont have to deal with some useless bullshit every day which is like office relationships etc.
Christian Cox
Move to a conservative state you cuck
Camden Cruz
I have no advice on how to better your situation but you should be focusing all your energy on getting out of teaching. Make a living another way. My father is close to retirement and I've watched this profession destroy his soul over the years.
Parker Cooper
What else can you do with teaching degree? English and history major here
Samuel Gonzalez
I have an Ivy League STEM degree and had a GPA of 3.2 and several financial certs. I am teaching abroad too. The truth is I failed to network in college 2 years ago and now that it's over it feels like there isn't much hope of gettimg better. How am I supposed go get another job?
Ian Fisher
I don't have a teaching degree. I studied math. Even I'm terrified of a history degree though unless you explicitly want to go to law school.
Blake Roberts
Damn networking really isn't a meme. I would think with that background you'd have no issue with getting hired anywhere you want.
Luis Ortiz
Stop finding problem and start finding solutions.
How can i get a new job? Open up the fricking job ads webpage and start searching. Welders get paid shitloads of money. Just do something stupid with high pay for 1 year, gather enough money and learn something solo + high pay with a degree. Your mind is here what is needed. Im learning to become a Java programmer for an example. I've already done the previous steps.
Jayden Carter
Male children are usually above wife
Camden Richardson
Try killing yourself. Do it in front of the kids though so you'll scar them for life and make them and the administration feel guilty. The world is ending soon anyway, you have nothing to lose.
Jose Reyes
kek you're right
Benjamin Powell
Something like this unironically happened this decade at my school. If I say anymore I'll be revealing too much about where I live.
Julian Garcia
Tried that for 6 months but basically nobody responded. Even spoke with recruiters and was told nobody is hiring in financial data analyst and actuarial fields (I have actuary tests too) so try again later. I have about 160k in the bank and Bitcoin (was 300k in January but yeah). I took one programming class in college and I'm good at learning analytical things quickly (seriously). I'm also still shelling out $1000 every few months to take more actuarial and financial tests gor some reason as well.
What do I do next?
Aiden Sanders
dont do it, thats what some of them want
Colton Taylor
>graduate from Ivy League school with math degree >have taken actuary tests and passed >still can't find another job than teacher That's a horror story user.
Colton Hughes
Spaniard here. There is something extremely serious I don't want to get in detail about in regards to the songs the girls sing when playing during recreational time. There's also this thing called Historical Memory Law and a controversy about how far it does not go.
Even trying to give advice scares me, all I'll say is Psalms.
This is unrelated but once I signed on to become a teacher here, and consequently bought my ticket to Asia, I suddenly got offered a job at this obscure Property Management firm and my flight wasn't going to leave for 6 weeks so I acceoted the job and got paid for the conpany's mandatory 2 weeks of training. This was during the big crypto bull run of December 2017 and I already knew I'd be leaving so I took the time to brag to my coworkers about my crypto gains (at the time I had made more than 2.5x my salary with them in the course of a week thanks to ELIX) and did I wanted, got paid to basically get trained and do nothing, and didn't give a fuck. These people had the balls to verbally dangle my salary over my head like bait when I didn't volunteer for some mandatory overtime work, assuming as a college graduate I was poor and would just take it, and when it didn't work they called me in the next day and fired me.
Nevet felt better than that. Collected my last paycheck for doing nothing but get trained that they begrudgingly gave me and happily left.
Ethan Gray
Did this post descend the realm of /x/?
Joshua Bell
Don't bother OP, just apologise you are in the wrong and propose to make changes. Unless you are a homeroom teacher of the class you are always in the wrong.
Ethan Mitchell
Who do I apologize to exactly? And why would I be "in the right" if I were a homeroom teacher?
Your mistake was probably mixing stronger and weaker students with no regard for their motivation. It's one thing to be weak, and another to not give a shit, and these people were probably the source of frustration. You should've let the students pick their teams and then made adjustments, putting everyone who didn't give a fuck into dedicated absentee teams.
Blake White
I had free seating in my class for months and the same coworkers and boss nag me nonstop to force them into a seating chart and "put the smart kids next to a weak kid so each one helps them." I finally cave in and do what they said and this is the result. What the fuck they told me to do it like this.
Henry Hall
Fuck off idiot, the kids were retards who failed to put aside their differences and thus failed the assignment. They should be given F for their work and that should be the end of discussion, how the fuck is that teacher's fault?
Michael Gonzalez
It's not about 'setting aside differences', it's about not handicapping smart kids and those who want to improve by putting deliquents and slackers in their team. The end goal is to teach those who want to learn, the rest should be filtered out.
Connor Price
They're either doing the minimum required effort and covering for themselves or are delusional about the results of what they do. If education in whatever country you're in is any similar to Poland, then it's a shitshow all the way through controlled by aggressive and retarded parents, and teachers are the ones having to bear the most of it.
Joshua Garcia
F to students who did work A to students who didn't It should teach them a valuable life lesson, not to be a fucking snitch
Joshua James
Yes and you teach them by making them fail the class. Grades are there for a reason.
Matthew Rivera
Any smart teacher would just group up kids who are in the same friend group. Then the kids have mutual respect and won't get mad about a fucking high school project because then they'd lose that respect from friends. Every teacher over 40 I've seen that wants to protect their career does this
Brody Sanders
>Welders get paid shitloads of money
thinks memes are real
Jackson Morris
Next time I will. Students literally just have to behave well when the class gets reviewed and it's easy to take care of them the other 95% of the time.
Jackson Turner
Lmao kids will definitely cry the rest of their lives because some faggot khs. Within a minute they will teabag your corpse and Stacy will fuck Chad over your dead body. Think of some better ways seriously.
Grayson Robinson
If you have no social skills teaching probably isn't for you
Leo Robinson
>expect kids to get along if you just force them together >can't get along with your own co workers at least eat your own cooking
also why aren't there guidelines for this shit? doesn't teacher school have a standard way of executing something as basic as a group project?
Cooper Edwards
Here's the problem that I see.
You have a specific schedule and certain things that need to be taught to these children.
Your not going to create savants or special students that had hidden abilities.
Follow the program get the kids in and out and move on with your life.
You still live in the high school mentality where people become teachers so they can feel like they're in school still but your 30
If you want to find the special students then use your careere as a teacher to CREATE a program for students.
This will take you many many many years. Curriculum is based on late 80s early 90s.
Fucking invalid.
Sebastian Adams
OP, why did you get into teaching?
My dad was a teacher. It's a very good field to be in if you're talented and actually want to be a teacher. If you're not both of those things then what the fuck are you doing? Nobody wants some asshole who doesn't want to be there teaching them.
I'm so glad in Australia you have to write an essay justifying why you want to be a teacher for your degree application
Carson Richardson
This thread is attracting an odd group of people.
Juan Richardson
any hot lolis in your class? asking for a friend
Angel Bell
Praise to our lord Jesus Christ. With him we all going to make it.