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I tried it during highschool because its pretty much a straight path towards a good paying job but I fucking hated every second of it, and everyone in that class were absolute robots, all acted and looked the same

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I didn't have any chance to do anything like that but I wish I had. I have some books but I'm really not a self-starter.

In US colleges, 1000 level computer science classes usually hit their max limits at ~100 students/class
by 2000 levels, that number has dropped by at least half
by 3000, classes are usually 15 students
its amazing how many zoomers sign up for these classes thinking
>yea, i enjoy fortnight.
not realizing what actually goes into programming

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I have no idea how useful it is but if you're looking to get a basic idea of what its like and determine whether you enjoy it or not its a good place to start

I bought a c++ book and practised some opengl to start game development but gave it up for uni and the most miserable choice of my life

Canadian universities are full of NPCs who bought the 100K salary meme. They usually drop out or graduate but dont have any experience or skills for 100K job

it might unironically be a good path for menial workers because our jobs are already tedious and mind numbing

you get conflicting opinions though about how much math skill it takes to do software development. Some people try to sell it like you have to be a math genius, and others have anecdotes about how nobody in programming is actually any good at math and just copy pastes 99% of it.

I will look into this

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Because governments, universities and pretty much this entire world sells it as a get rich quick scheme to a simple and easy life

Did it for free for a 6 month mandatory internship in university, burnt out probably because I wasn't getting paid and I just wanted it to be finished. I graduated last year and have been trying to find a job since but I just fail because my restriction for myself is if the work location is comfortable commute distance, but even then sometimes I outright fail on the spot coding tests.

In the end, I just gave up and been looking for IT helpdesk/support jobs recently if I still can't find a job soon I'll just apply in a call center.

I started getting into it while I was still in school. Back then I read some books like C++ programming, something about microprocessors and that hacking book that apparently everyone has.
Now I study CS at university (6th semester) and don't know whether I can actually pull through. There is still a lot I have to pass.

NPCs fall for it so easily. They need to make decisions by themselves

its the same with almost every program thats struggling for students
Aviation programs (yea, thats an actual college degree in the states) keep parroting that the aviation world is "running out of pilots" and there are "so many job openings now that the boomers are retiring"
i have friends in the aviation business and you would be lucky to get a job giving tours in a C172 for $18/hour. Even if the industry is hurting for pilots, airlines still arnt reducing their requirements

just go into web development, make a portfolio is easy

Pretty much the same. Fucking hate it and suck at it but I stuck through and now have a well paying job that I hate and suck at.

I started as a kid and now I'm studying computer engineering

>OpenGL
You should've used a game engine instead, OpenGL is tedious and learning it takes a lot of time (especially starting from version 2)

Started with C when I was 13. Used to make custom Pokemon ROMhacks with Rubicon, made RPG Maker games and stuff like that back in school and college days. Now I work as a full stack developer at a well known start up here, I’m enjoying it.

My parents pretty much forced me to do it, I didn't really have a choice in the matter, shit got me really fucking depressed and they only let me leave it once I stopped going to school altogether

Studying cs. It's not that hard once you get into it.

>6th semester) and don't know whether I can actually pull through

Wie viel cp hast du?

because nobody has any answer for what regular people should do as their jobs are made redundant other than to go fuck themselves, so they tell everybody to learn code

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Didn't really tried and never found it interesting. It pays little and it bring terrible status. While a engineer is seem as a smart guy, the programmer is considered the virgin with nothing better to do.

I must be some sort of brainlet. I've tried programming several tines, but just can't wrap my mind around it. Ended up majoring in networking/cybersecurity instead.

That's why I choose my father career

>I must be some sort of brainlet.
>Ended up majoring in networking/cybersecurity

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>Why yes, I am programming an AI to make all programmers obsolete

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being a programmer makes understanding cybersecurity very easy

>Ended up majoring in networking/cybersecurity instead.

Aren't they learning the basics programming stuff as well. I'm also going this route but I have to take the basic cs stuff for the first few semesters and after that it gets specialized.

You're literally giving instructions to a machine.

If that doesn't sound exciting, I don't know what does!

NOOOOOO WHERE WILL I WORK THEN?
YOU CANT DO THAT

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Building the machine

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8 years with C# & .Net in general. working from home now.
started working with programming when I was 18.

The network security side of CS is easy to me. Still can't code worth a damn though.

I'm a programmer. Most programmers are either nerds or people who got into the field because of money and they actually hate coding and designing systems. The last group usually gravitates towards management and uses the first group as cheap labor. The nerd camp is divided between total fuckwits and very strange people. The "omg imma gonna study programming because I love videogames XDDD" usually gets weeded out pretty fast, most of them drop out in the first year.

Programming by itself is actually easy, it's actually the software """"engineering"""" aspect that is very fucking difficult and frustrating.

web"""devs""" are subhuman and should be hanged

Unironically agree. Front end devs are cancer, javascript is the biggest cancer of all.

Based, sir. You are absolutely correct. We must see the return of desktop applications and make Windows great again.

i was thinking of doing computer science major but took some classes in high school and shit was boring, couldnt imagine coding all day. from my understanding it is a crowded major and even my friend with a mental disability is getting through it so it must not be too hard

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cringe

The IT job market in Poland is so fucked up you can can get a decent salary with no experience just by applying to some random position and making a good impression. I don't even have a degree and my previous job experience amounted to a grand total of 8 months as a customer service for a telecom company.
I've been with the company I currently work for for 13 months, it's my second job and my current salary hovers around 24k USD/year before tax.

24k USD/year may be a poverty salary in the west but in Poland I'm well off financially and considering the fact that my only alternative was manual labour at 1/4 the pay I got off easy.
And I got to visit a few European countries during my 13 months, essentially for the sole purpose of partying at company cost, something I could not afford previously.

that sounds fucking based and I wish I could do that

my employer will pay for training to do skilled jobs like web development or HVAC or you name it, but it's very hard to balance doing that with working enough to pay rent

I wish I could do some kind of apprenticeship program but they're all like slave labor and would cut my wages in half for the foreseeable future

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America.

Currently working currently as a developer. Back office, billing type of work. Pay is good and the problems can be interesting to solve despite it's boring nature.

Programmers are not architects, professors, or wizards. Not even the good ones and I want this meme to die. My work isn't trivial but it's not obscenely out of reach. It's like any good skill, you go to school, work for a few years and you start to get good at it if you give a shit. Most programmers I've met either embellish their importance making them sound like the sole employee doing anything or loathe technology and hardly talk about it. It's an annoying culture with lots of desperate people attempting to seem more important then they are.

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I got a scholarschip to study CS at the local university but decided to go for business instead. CS sounds like too much work :-D But I do have some experience with programming since computers have been my hobby since I was a kid. Not something I would want to turn into a job though.

Im studying cs. This is my third year. I love programing but hate all the other signatures about math, electronics and other shit

I think software development would be more useful for the holder if they are in another industry, identifying problems in the industry you're currently in vice versa then try to solve it with both the knowledge you have. I think going to business is better for you yes.

they are underpaid geniuses

I like to understand how programs work but I fucking hate writing code.

80 von 180. Ich schätze zu Beginn des nächsten Semesters werde ich 94 oder 100 haben.

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I had to do a few scripts for college. Hated it.

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They're alright. Most of people you meet in uni and school are autists but the people who actually work are normally a bit better.

I currently work as one and I genuinely enjoy it. The worst part is the rest of the office bullshit.

It's retarded money.
Worst thing you can do is actually study that shit.
Gives you 0 reputation and leaves you practically with 3-5 wasted years you could've spent making mad money + rep by programming trivial gui applications for boomer enterprises.

If you approach coding from an academic perspective you'll be sorely disappointed.
You'll the the same menial shit as someone who has 5 years of job experience, knows the craft, how to work in a team, corporate etiquette and probably makes more money than you.

Working as one for 7 years already

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I am a developer, sort of. Know a handful of languages, front end and some data.

I'm a product owner, can do a lot of development myself. But mostly end up project managing and bringing in consultants to write code.

It's well paid, at least.

>I love programing but hate all the other signatures about math, electronics and other shit

Retard. That's the entire basis of programming and computer science. If you can't implement a linear algebra calculator in pure TTL logic chips get the fuck out my face.

Absolutely fucking boring. Computer Science majors look like pic related and have zero social skills. It makes math look like the most entertaining subject in existence

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A Java course was mandatory in engineering and Matlab was used everywhere, very basic stuff really.

I'm the best.

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