Which college degrees are good investments?
Which college degrees are good investments?
if you aren't at a top 10 school: none
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None.
Learn a trade or start a business.
Major: Nepotism
Minor: Art (of wearing knee pads and pleasuring powerful men)
It doesn't cost me anything to go. I basically get paid. I'm pro-trades but at least where I live they are still not the ideal job. My family is primarily in trades and it's definitely done wear and tear on their bodies. There's also a lot of times where they've had to work very shitty hours.
Competitive Underwater Basket-Weaving degree.
That almost rhymes with MBA.
most people who say this went to college
kinda true but not really in america, a major state uni is usually sufficient
>most people who say this went to college
Yea, we're speaking from experience.
I dont wanna see this gif everyday for the rest of my life man
serious fucking answer pretty much only Computer Science, Statistics, and higher tier engineering degrees like electrical/mechanical are worth it these days, especially if you're not at a top 15 school
working in tech's the only thing guaranteed to get you a decent job after you graduate, otherwise you're gonna be drowning in debt or need to go to grad school
business is on the same tier as computer science if you're at a top 15 school because of the networking and shit, but if you're not at a top 15 it's about as useless as any other degree
I'm in accounting and it's pretty good.
Oh shit! forgot about accounting. yeah, accounting's a decent bet, too. probably the most immediately practical business subfield
what about stuff life information science/information tech/ information systems/ management information systems. where you take a few business classes but also learn some coding and how to deal with data
Accounting will be automated to oblivion over the next decade.
I hope you lads are learning to program on the side.
Oh, I just sorta lumped those in under computer science. I guess I should have said "anything coding-heavy" is a good investment
csfag checking in here sitting comfy until the tech bubble blows up
I literally only hear this from people who know nothing about accounting. I'm pretty sure it's just something people tell themselves because they want an excuse not to go into it.
Biotech
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Computer Science, Computer Engineering, or Electrical Engineering. Those are the only ones worth doing if you are not going to an Ivy League.
If you are above average IQ but low achiever like most people on this board, I would learn programming on my own and do freelance work and dump all into crypto.
Any simple coding/data handling job is going to be automated in the next 10 years, bad investment.
DO NOT DO MECHANICAL. There is a massive over abundance of mechanical engineers, everything being done is electrical. The only Mech E's I know that have made it either had family in the HVAC industry or essentially became electrical engineers by necessity (this was mostly the asians who could make the jump fast)
I know multiple private accounting firms who only handle 20-30 huge customers that have outright stopped hiring, contracted their business model to a CS company, and now have almost everything automated. They even fired their younger soon-to-be partner so they didnt have to bring him in on the profits.
>essentially became electrical engineers by necessity (this was mostly the asians who could make the jump fast)
redpilled
that's kind of a fair point. A lot of my friends who were Mechanical 100% made it, which is why I listed it, but in hindsight pretty much all of them became electrical engineers in practice
>Ivy League: Anything
>Non-Ivy League: CS, CompE, EE, or anything to get you prepared for medical/law school.
Anything else is a meme or can be taught on the job.
There are plenty of new accounting jobs every year. I'm not denying that automation will get rid of the monkey work, but it's heavily exaggerated. I think your perspective might be a bit skewed since you're obviously attached to CS, so you've mostly been exposed to the intersection of CS and accounting. (speaking of which that's a god tier combination)
yup, my friend was a field technician for an HVAC company making pretty good money, but he was basically doing electrical work half the time.
Definitely this, anyone saying that accountants are going anywhere are really just naive, walk into any Of the major wire houses or any and you’ll see an army of financial accountants that are really more analyst than accountant. Not to mention all the audit work that major accounting firms get paid out the ass to do
Agree and go into Accoutning either knwong the tech side of shit or know how to manage people with the new tech to prepare them for the future. Being autistic and jerking off the cpa is going away
Financial accounting with a good knowledge of CS and actual interpersonal skills will be the financial services CEOs of the next generation.
Combine your studies with becoming a student of your industry, and i don’t just mean of the technical skills to operate within the field, but the past l, the major players, the major failures.
Always be the best listener in the room and don’t just throw something out to say something. If you don’t have something intelligent to say in a work setting don’t say it.
Being an autist who dedicates 100% to cs gets you to be a cog in the machine knowing how companies run inside and out, number by number is how you become a leader in your field.
>counting beans
>good
good at suicidal thoughts, yes
you're thinking about data and analytics/data science and it's a god tier field if you're smart
So we can definitely agree on the monkey work part. From OP's perspective, hes going to be looking for entry level work in 4-5 years, which isn't going to exist for the traditional accountant however what both and are saying is you really need to become a full on financial analyst as opposed to being a number cruncher.
This is the best point, the CPA is slowly becoming meaningless because the traditional accounting job won't exist in a decade or two.
In addition to all this you could get a degree in economics or finance, get a job as an analyst at an investments firm 80k/year starting with a 40k bonus. And over the 3 years right after you start working start to work on getting your CFA. It’s more intensive than grad school but seriously worth it.
You’d be a shoe in for a portfolio manager job down the line and easily make between 750k and 2.5 million per year working on building out really interesting and nuanced investment portfolios.
I just realized who ever made this doesn’t even understand how to do the dance. Lol fucking boomeers
All huge dicked high IQ chads are in mech engineering
Medicine student here.
Comfy with my six year hold for this damn degree. Gonna be the most powerful thing under God: a doctor. As a bonus to all the power, I’ll be pretty wealthy as well. And with access to various drugs.
Electrical myself
The College degrees that are good investments are the ones that you don't have to pay for (College elite athletes)
do you like taking out a loan for a bunch of bullshit that wont even get you a job?
thats pretty ambitious user, is that what you did? I doubt unless you were raised well and are naturally extremely smart this would be realistic.
electrical engineer here, make pretty good $$ and comfy life/ traveling etc.
kinda wondering if i could do it again maybe be in med school/doctor make even more money etc
Econ/CompSci is the kino combination
followed by
Math/Finance
Applied maths and you end up in quantitative finance or just go for software engineering if you are not really good with numbers
You have no idea what you’re talking about. Only pleb tier APand AR jobs will be automated and we’re still 10 years away from that. Auditing and forecasting will not be automated anytime soon. Basically things you will learn with a BA in accounting will not be automated
It’s not as unrealistic as you think it’s more about being able to commit to the whole process from a fairly young age. 4 years for the degree, another three for the CFA plus the time it takes for that to pay off in your work life.
Without getting into too much detail, I’m on a similar path to what I wasn’t mentioning.
Bachelors in Economics from a large state university. Got a job out of college working for a high yield bond group (about $350 billion AUM) did the analyst/associate thing for a few years and am now a junior pm. ( promoted within 2 months of passing the third CFA exam)
So to answer your question;fingers crossed this is me, and it’s fairly common to see the path i described on the hedge fund side of things. Econ and finance is more popular when it comes to east coast based hedgies and math/ engineering is more popular a degree for the west coast hedge funds from what i hear from friends out there.
Hope that answers your question
I'd honestly give it 20 years before we start really feeling a lack in entry level jobs. Most of the automation has already happened, so instead of adopting technology the sector is going to have to innovate new technology which is much slower. I think you're shortchanging the field too much, but I will repeat that double-majoring in finance or getting a minor in CS would help out a bunch.
I have an info sys degree, was able to land a job after interviewing at 8 diff companies with 0 experience or internships under my belt and I'm making the same as the places I interviewed at to be a code monkey. I handle anything technology related for a healthcare company. The servers, network security and EMR are all handled by outside vendors so anything super technical I can just call them. Its comfy as fuck I just sit in my office all day shitposting and occasionally answer some emails, restart a computer/printer and create user accounts for our EMR software. Tech/healthcare is a god tier industry as far as job security goes. All kinds of smaller health clinics need basic IT support because boomers are too dumb to login to the right networks and restart their computers or run reports in excel. My class at uni was full of chads while the CS department had all the spergs.
Investment banking is hard to get into. You need to be ivy league, have amazing grades, good connects, etc. But if you see that pathway open for you then for the love of god do it. Heaven knows I'm trying to get an IB job.
It’s all about the internships. And if it’s past that point don’t be afraid to put some time in as an analyst as a smaller shop and then transfer after a year or so
dumbest shit ive ever read
>Going to top university in your state isn't good enough
wew lad
>Accounting will be automated to oblivion over the next decade.
lol brainlet alert. Accounting is a largely jewish field. Do you think jews are going to let themselves get automated, fuck no. Also accounting is something you want a human not a program doing due to hacking.
Anne Hathaway is fucking hot
Sometimes I wish I had studied electrical engineering. A 4-year degree is enough to get a decent job in programming, finance, quality control, etc. You could always go back to school for an MBA if you wanna make more money faster.
Have fun getting your pay and workflow increasingly dictated by how much insurance wants to cover.
Investmwnt banking pays well but you get 6 hours of sleep a night max and you work work work all the time in a high stress environment.
Yea the first two years are hell and six hours of sleep is a luxury but if you love investing and finding what the market doesn’t see then it’s worth it
>implying I’m from the USA, i.e. health system dammed to failure
Don't get a degree and learn computer science/programming on your own. Once you feel comfortable with the basics, get a 20-hour or 30-hour internship for a year or two. Afterwards you'll have enough experience to get a full-time job as a software engineer. That's literally what I did with my life.
Most people gtfo of IB within the first 3 years. Its main appeal is the exit opportunities.
lmao then wtf are you bragging about? Physician salaries are garbage outside the United States.
Engineering is based, but only if you aren't one of the retards who drops out or takes 10 years to finish a degree.
Lol you must be 100% retarded if you think that’s true.
If someone were to learn on their own how would they know if they’re prepared for the workforce? Asking because I’m currently learning through CodeAcademy (just started) but I have a feeling it won’t be enough.
no shilling, mr. harvard!
I'd change it to top 10 program. Berkeley isn't usually in the top 10, but an engineering degree from there is better than say, an engineering degree from Princeton.
I'd agree with you otherwise, schoolets will get mad but if you want to make alot of money 99/100 times you need to go to a university that isn't terrible.
Mechatronics
nothing to stop you from going to trade school now
Yeah, going to a top uni thing is definitely an american thing. Europe and Aus and NZ aren’t like that. Any uni is fine. That said, going to oxford will look better than a no name uni.
Jackie Kennedy was low key ugly
>If someone were to learn on their own how would they know if they’re prepared for the workforce?
You're right, but impostor syndrome is extremely common even among those that go to college. This is why working internships is a million times better than going to college because it gives you a genuine working experience. There's also the fact that you'll be getting paid and you'll also be avoiding a massive amount of college debt
>t. gay man
traps arent gay
That's where all the CS dropouts go because they couldn't hang.
construction engineering from cal poly SLO or Pomona
This.
CS isn't bad if you're decent with math and computers.
If you aren't going to do a tougher degree then at least minimize cost: go to a CC to knock out your gen eds then try to transfer to a school that will offer you some decent money. Companies will not give a shit that you went this route, the only thing on your resume is your final school, major, and GPA.
Did anyone else skip college despite having a high iq because they couldnt pick a major? Ended up making 80k a year at 23 anyway though. Not a tradecuck either
I wanted to have fun and fuck girls. Never even considered skipping.
Might go back as a 24 year old boomer of i can get some pasisve income going. I come from a pretty poor family tb.h so i couldnt really expect my parents to help pay for any of my education
Meh if you've got a job you don't need it? I was just stating my mindset at the time.
You could always just move to a college town and go to the bars, you won't miss anymore than 10% of the "experience" at that point.
Nowhere in the world has more hot women than an average college though
You are on a board of mouth breathing retards that parrot random anecdotes about the future to each other while simultaneously losing their pittance on fake internet money. Do you really expect them to actually know anything?