I hate working. I've had 10 different jobs and all were awful. The worst by far is office job I have now...

i hate my office job too
uppity lazy shits and princesses thinking they are doing some important shit
id rather be back under the sun with the lads digging up skellies and whatnot then go for a beer after work
fuck this world

just deliver pizzas or some other shit. delivering sounds nice desu, maybe i should try that

were you a grave robber

>Oh no how horrible I get to sit in a comfy chair and pretend to work
>Oh no how awful i get to work from home multiple times a week
Yeah office jobs am i right, better to be a ditch digger.

>tfw 35h/week office job, 30 paid vacation days a year
Non French bros... You'll never know...

I have similar feelings user. The office environment is totally not for me.

That's pretty bad user

It's standard here

you can't survive working part time job here

I don't need to pay rent so that helps. Besides that I don't really buy anything, just books and gym stuff

yeah but what do you do?

But if i change it to something even mildly relevant, like engineering, that entails 2-3 more years of school and debt. I'm already 2 years behind most people my age because I took time off of uni to work.

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working for archeologists, its digging until you find something and we always found smt

Is everyone really a loser here? Feels like everyone is either a NEET, working some deadend minimum wage job or studying a useless degree. Anyone actually smart or semi-successful?

Feels weird considering how rich a lot of people around me are whereas here I feel like gigachad.

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No such thing as a meme degree, even someone with a sociology undergrad can accomplish a good salary and career

It has more to do with being stupid and unmotivated and not networking while getting good grades. I know engineers who work at car dealerships making 40k (who were so entitled during school but now kek) and an anthropologist who makes almost 6 figures. Only 4 year degrees.

Stop making excuses.

>I don't need to pay rent so that helps.

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Born rich? What do they do?

>tfw you deliver pizza to an old classmate who is successful with a house
don't be a delivery driver

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who gives a shit you fucking idiot

Go to dental school

>too much of a sperg to even try to get a job
i'd kill for a 9-5 cubicle job where i just do busywork all day and nobody ever speaks to me

I'm program helicopter devices (mostly military) and very like my job=)

Work is for cucks
Why don't you just enjoy life and live on welfare?

>and an anthropologist who makes almost 6 figures
can you describe this in more detail? How does one network when you're socially retarded?

that's rough man

I'm 18 and taking a year off to work a bit and get some monies saved up for college. Is it bad to want to major in something that earns me money just because it earns me money? What majors, besides the obvious lawyer and doctor, does earn decent money nowadays? I feel so lost and maybe that's more the reason I wanted to take the break before college, but I just want a well paying job bros

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I don't know if that kind of jobs even exist. I constantly have to make calls, answer calls and email clients. Yeah, you don't talk to other co workers all that much but that doesn't mean you don't communicate with other people.

Kinda wanted to avoid going to grad school since I don't want to be entering the work force in my late 20s. Also, debt.

I have a boring ass programmer job but I mostly browse reddit and waste time

Well maybe not rich but most people I know are actually working on building a career at the very least. Personally I work a salescuck job at a transportation company and make around $55k a year.

>Is it bad to want to major in something that earns me money just because it earns me money?
Nigga how many people do you think majoring in computer science do it because they are in love with the actual science part of it

When you come to Jow Forums you're not getting a regular sample of the general population, that's why

Do you sell freights or what do you do?

that's not what /sci/ told me!

Just started a call center job and I really like it. It's nice to help people who call in, an I think I am pretty goo at it. It doesn't pay well but it is nice to feel like you are contributing to society.

Master degree.
Do numbers in a cushy office job all day.
25 paid holidays + dozen of public holidays
Good pay
Can buy my own house, have just not decided on which

The bulk of my job is managing a few large accounts which is usually fairly laid back.

I assumd people on Jow Forums would generally be more introverted and introverts are more likely to pursue STEM fields which are generally fairly wellpaid though.

Masters in what? What field do you work in?

>being an office wagie
>not being a tradechad that lives frugally
I bet you wagies spend too much money on frivolous bullshit that you deem necessary

I thought it was because they want to avoid human contact

pretending to work is sometimes harder than just working

True but Jow Forums users are also autistic which leads to irrational decisions about what degrees and life path they should take, which ultimately gives you a $20k job with a 4 year biology degree because someone on Jow Forums told them it's the "Chad degree"

Depends on the trade. A lot of trades seem like absolute cuck-tier (as in, working like a goyim for 5 years to get licensed and then breathing in toxic fumes for $30/hr for the rest of your life-tier) unless you start a business

CompSci is probably one of the most network-heavy majors which is probably why Jow Forums and /sci/ denounce it so much. Every normoid and their dog has a CompSci degree but in order to get ahead you have to do things in class besides just showing up and taking notes for 4 years.

I was actually thinking of going anthropology degree for archeology. Is the pay that bad? Do you have to worry about being a stable job?

You could spin anything to be "working like a goyim" (as if hard work is in itself bad) and you can take precautions for toxic fumes.
>nooo you're a cuck if you don't exclusively work for yourself
this wavelength is annoying and not even practical

Master: Economics
Job: Statistics

>Every normoid has a compsci degree
But they do not... "Normoids" drop out in the first semester because they realize computer science isn't the same as playing videogames or browsing reddit.

Also since when did Jow Forums denounce it?

>in order to get ahead you have to do things in class besides just showing up and taking notes for 4 years.
That's literally every single degree.

I like my air force job a lot. It has some really shitty days, but more good days than bad.

Practice until it becomes natural

What was your starting salary?

>You could spin anything to be "working like a goyim" (as if hard work is in itself bad)

Sorry allow me to clarify, I specifically meant that in the trades you generally get paid little money and do the "dirty work" of your supervisor. Often times you're also seen as a cheap workhorse and don't even receive proper training (In Canada there were recent cases of apprentices being hired and then 'thrown' into work with minimal instruction or oversight, resulting in serious injury and even a few deaths).

>>nooo you're a cuck if you don't exclusively work for yourself
>this wavelength is annoying and not even practical
Most tradespeople don't make a huge amount of money until they start a business because experience to responsibilitiy/compensation doesn't really grow linearly let alone exponentially like it would in many 'white-collar' jobs.

datausa.io/profile/cip/computer-science-6
>growing 24%
Things are already starting to tank with many compsci majors finding themselves SOL when finding a job. CompSci is particularly network-heavy, even now, because so many people have one. The "gem" degree that everyone thought CompSci was is now just a regular, extremely competitive degree.

>I hate working.
Same. Tried for a couple years. NEET for life now.

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This

Working for yourself involves a lot of admin and less time doing what you are good at.

I prefer having filter out stupid requests and manage difficult clients, whilst I just write code while listening listen to music.

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you wont dig anything, youll be sitting in an ACd lab and seek siphilis on ancient bones or whatever the request is from the field archeologists

Still better than most other degrees. What do you recommend as a high-paying degree that doesn't require networking, internships/co-ops, independent projects? Doubt one exists.

I never said one exists, because it doesn't, but that's what everyone thought CompSci was back in the day and now people are discovering that the person next to them, and the person in front, and their neighbor, their friends, their cousins, roommates all have the same exact degree now, the likes of which jobs can't be created fast enough for.

I'm currently working as an electrician. I love working, I have good friends at work, plenty of time off to chill, and a job I love doing.

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yikes

Just consider the fact that you might burn out quick.
Like ok you get a high paying job and within 5 years you get a huge house with a nice car but then what? If you dont enjoy the job what comes after?

Look here
canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/services/benefits-military/pay-pension-benefits/pay/non-commissioned.html#regular

P1 in basic training
P2 for the 1st year
P3 for the 2nd year
Corporal is guaranteed on the 4th year, but you can apply for an early promotion if you aren't a shitpump. Spec pay also starts at Corporal for many trades, which is a HUGE jump from Private P3.

Go to Thailand for the culture

What's your wage, brother in phase? The level of your education? Are you a technician or an engineer?

How competitive is the job over there?

You could say the same thing with a degree you just kind of enjoy. You're living in an apartment, budgeting away for bills and splurging once every year on something kinda nice, but in 10 years what's it really worth? At least with a well paying job you are neutral about you can save up money to retire or take breaks from working, if your job allows it.
In any case, it's typically said that you're happiest when you make $70-95000, and that you will never love something you did pre-degree when you're working under someone else. I don't know how true that second one is but I can definitely see me being happiest around that salary, which you don't get working as a vacuum salesman

What about the meme that Canadian military is severely underfunded and constantly experiencing cuts? I was thinking of joining the reserves tbqh.

Well fuck. I was considering a software engineering degree about quitting my wagie job.

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Same. I’ve had about ten or so jobs too, hated all of them. I’m running out of money rn so I’m going to have to pick up another bullshit job quick.

i have no clue, i only brought bones in for them

I never said its not accessible either. If it makes you feel better the average CompSci student is a redditor who built a computer once, and the average engineering student is there because they googled "well paying jobs" when picking their major. Work hard at it, get out and network with people during college and that'll put you ahead of lots of people

We told you but you didn't listen

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pay denbts

not now call me later

The equipment is broken. The tools are shit. The buildings are ancient. All the parties pretend to care about the military but won't spend money on it. Procurement is an inefficient process. However, at the end of the day, our pay is good, which is what matters to me most. Can't speak for every trade, but I can tell you an CAF tech with a tool pouch can do what 3 USAF techs can do with an entire tool cart.

>Why don't you just enjoy life and live on welfare?

We don't all live in Finland. Welfare isn't enough to live in Leafland. A lot of thirdies don't get welfare at all.

No

being a neet is pretty depressing honestly

>He does not get to work from home multiple times a week
Must suck to have a shit-tier job. I'm getting paid to literally live a normal life doing whatever I want for most of the day.

It's like having the benefits of being a NEET with the benefits of being a wagie.

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>le 176% face

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>hey user why don't the part-time pill bro?
>oh yea I live with my parents so I don't have to pay for rent, food, utilities, but have to buy my own video games

>Working for yourself involves a lot of admin and less time doing what you are good at.

>and that you will never love something you did pre-degree when you're working under someone else.

As someone with business owners in their family I can say that working for yourself has it's downsides and stress, supervising undiligent employees, but not taking orders and having your own agency makes up for it.

I'm old but I feel like going back to uni to get a PhD. I don't think it will improve my employment prospects at all but I kind of want to get one before I'm really old and can't remember anything anymore.

sup panface?

>the average CompSci student is a redditor
This is true. The average CS student literally only does their homework assignments, does no programming outside of class, and somehow expects to get a job

It reminds me of those mid-20s richfags who make the personal blogs of how they lived frugal to retire so early and it turns out they stopped eating out for a year and their parents paid for their house and conveniently gave them $900000
It's hilarious when you come across then but also a bit sad since these people will always think that they made a life of themselves while you seethe in envy

That's unironically me but I don't claim to have some profound knowledge (although self-control can be hard). I invest the vast majority of my income because my parents are fairly well off and generous (I spend a few hundred dollars a month).

Honestly living with your parents and aggressively saving is the way to do it these days, if it's an option. Of course not everyone can but many people move out "just because" and waste their money on dumb shit.

I work for Amazon. I don't know how to get into a career path without taking a pay cut.

1-2 more weeks and then I wont work for 2 months

>At least with a well paying job you are neutral about
But thats my point. Youre neutral now. What happens when you stop being neutral about it?
Its easy to say things like "oh ill go on vacation a lot" or "ill just retire quickly"
Life is not that simple. The day to day matters, 20 years of work to retire feels as much of an eternity as 40 years does if youre simply working to retire. And the fact that youre already trying to use those as excuses says a lot.
Just think about it is all im saying.

I only work 20-25 hours a week and hardly do anything but it's still torture. I wanna go back to being a neet.