Ethereum

thats not in the governance model anymore. they can only freeze accounts if a smart contract did not work as specified. what i meant when i said "its not in the same league" is that EOS has developed an entirely new deterministic VM based on wasm, a completely new consensus protocol and has 1000's of independent devs working on it. while vechain is literally just a fork of ETH with PoA and despite this, still has little technical advantages apart from 50 tps as opposed to eth's 15 tps. which is fucking abysmal considering all 101 nodes are pre selected. similar story with neo except neo has at least developed a custom VM.
again, all are still shitcoins though since they have centralised consensus.

see my reply above^ for the first part of your post.
> There is a REAL proper platform being developed and news is starting to come out.
Radix?

Holo jesus.

>Radix

No, look into the history of ETH.

I think it's the futures, it's better to go up then down, drop the price, long futures and pump ETH, I know for a fact a few billionaires who are in on ETH, can't say who, but we did accounts for these people.

its a HOLO fanboy who wants to tell us that ETH is dropping because of HOLO

ethereum classic?

You forgot to add:

>increased competition in the space that works better
>Solidity programming language has few devs.
>sharding has already been delayed multiple times by ETH as well as ZIL and others who promised it. Can’t get it to work.

>cult of personality coin
>Vitalik
>lost as to how to implement POS
>lashes out at Cardano on twitter and reddit because they are ahead in the POS game
>common knowledge that POS for ETH is 2020 or later
>investors losing confidence
>see the fundamental error in holding a cult coin like Vitalik's ETH
>sharding also a distant fantasy
>all public knowledge
>becoming more commonly known
>"ETH can't scale" they say

Hundreds of ICO's raised millions in ETH and the hype is over for now.
Is this really that hard to figure out?
Also, all shitcoins are hugely influenced by the BTC price whether you want to ignore that fact or not.

probably talking about skycoin or some shit.

No not holo

No understand the actual history and origin of ETH

No ETH as a PLATFORM and it's vision is NEEDED and smart contacts are real.

ETH itself won't be THAT platform.

That's what smart money now understands and why they are slowly selling.

Smart contracts and Eths vision is 100% going to happen. It just won't be on ETH

Be back in a half/hour

Like FUCKING skycoin or some shit could do what Eth can right now. Kek

R L C
You'll thank me in 2 years

The SKY devs don't want smart contracts on their network anyway.

Is it counterparty?

There is an exploit that lets you send transactions using 0 gas (free) which makes ETH worthless.

Honestly ETH has many faults.
Why does it have to be a single one when the "downfall" (strong word maybe decline) is brought by multiple problems. Many of which were mentioned here:

But lets recap:

>Vitalik is a BAD spoke person and PR for his project. It fine to be critical and want to improve it. It terrible when you don't believe in your own project and other peoples project. At this point I don't know how much programing he does, but he is bad for ETH.

>ETH FAILED to do what it promised it will do.

ETH is not scalable. A single project in the name of crypto kitties showed it. ETH can not sustain massive amount of transactions that are cheap for the average user. 8$ in sending fee or days of waiting is not okay.

> The language... its obsucure few people know it. This means that a lot of people need to learn it and invest time and money to use eth. Its not C++ or anything else that is widly popular.

>People made millions in the ICO golden age. The insane amount of profit brough insane amount of scams with it or risky projects.

>Your starting to need a very own HDD to store the block chain... witch will get worse with time.

>At the same time its stale technology. No new programing languages, no POS, no sharding, no fixes of the bloat of the chain since the project launch really.

I am sure there more problems that i forgot to mention, however are the few I mentioned not enough to make you want to not buy ETH?

Outline a scenario in which ETC flips ETH.

Dfinity?

Been up all nite with insomnia watchin this thread, I hope you drop me some knowledge soon so I ca do some research and get some sleep

To summarize...

ETH is not the the child of the prophecy. It won't be the one coin that will start MASS adoption and make crypto useful in day to day life.

What ETH started as dream is awesome! It won't be the coin that accomplishes the dream though.

That coin most likely does not exist currently, or no team has shown that its capable to do it.

Alright it's ZIL then

Why does he do this? Does he hate speculators who don't give a shit about the tech?

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Biz is full of so many fucking neckbeard retards.
Ethereum has more competent devs than anyone in the entire crypto scene.

prysmaticlabs.com

And staking and sharding will blow everyone else the fuck out. Go ahead, sell now.

I know multi-billion dollar funds accumulating ETH right in this moment.

Only the filthy rich will be able to afford 32 ETH for staking with.

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> The language... its obsucure few people know it. This means that a lot of people need to learn it and invest time and money to use eth. Its not C++ or anything else that is widly popular.
It has to be a new language. No other popular language is deterministic. You can get different results running the same code on different hardware, it's the reason they created solidity. They didn't want to create a new language, they had to.

>Ethereum has more competent devs than anyone in the entire crypto scene.

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I hope you short ETH right now as hard as you can. Can't wait to see you get fucked if thats your logic.

The problem with ETH is also that it increased like hundredfold within not even 2 years. So there is much more room for justing. Also Vitalik is a retard and fuels the downtrend. Also bear market. Nobody is buying.

But ETH is ETH and one of the best buys you can buy and WILL increase for sure again. However nobody knows where the bottom is and nobody is daring to risk buying too much when it can also drop another 50% to 100ish. It is hard to estimate where it finally stops dropping.

Straw man argument comparing their political views to their ability to code.

eth is trash
god tier devs like greg maxwell pointed this out years ago

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>muh history
spill the beans already
what are you shilling you pathetic pajeet

go sync a validating node and get back to me
kek

>And staking and sharding will blow everyone else the fuck out
in 2020, 2021 or 2022? will ETH btfo everyone in 4 years? jesus christ, i knew redditors were stupid but you have just demonstrated a new level of dumbfuckery. congrats faggot.

I've synced plenty, don't try and use hardware from 2000 and you won't have an issue.

This. based and redpilled
/thread

user I don't know if i missed something but there is like 6 people.

I know a lo of projects having more than 30 developers working full time, won't mention them as dont want to get branded a shill.
Pick you ETH poison from here for example: cointopper.com/guides/8-best-alternative-smart-contract-platforms-to-ethereum

That does not change the facts though... few people know solidity and that crates a gate that needs to be passed for people to use it.

KEK

Because all Bitcoin is a scam and blockchain is useless tech that has no practical applications

BTC or BCH?

>90% of Jow Forums in agreement that ETH is a shitcoin and is going to 0

Looks like it's almost time to go all in against you tards

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bog incoming.

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No
Are there any proper oldfags here?

Since all the dumb replies and 2 hours which people can't even THINK and no one has yet go it. Most of you seen to be Redditors. Biz was never this stupid.

I've literally dropped hints along the way. If the true oldfags find it. Don't post here and enjoy your riches.

For those dumb brainlets. ETH Origin

For those Redditors - Believe in God Vitalik buy ETH because PoS, sharding and VB said so......

You are a retard

is this a tezos shill?

That's gonna be a big green line

4 U

Okay user if you are trying to say that a old coin from the beginning of ETH is starting to make a move I can think of only 3 coins:

LISK, STRATIS and ARK which is 2016.

My other train of though is to look if some of the other founding members are not creating a coin of their own.

BUMP!! BUMP!!

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Ethereum is dropping cause its a huge bubble, it was worth 1/10th of Apple's marketcap without having provided any fucking value whatsoever.
>sold at $1200,-

ETH is going to be bigger than you can even fucking imagine pleb.

entethalliance.org/members-2/

It could, definitely. I'm not denying that Ethereum could be great, amazing and provide value. All I'm saying is that it was in a huge fucking bubble and anyone who didn't sell just passed the retard test.

thats not true. you can have a standardised VM for a popular language. Like webassembly and then use a normal language. This is how eos can use c++. Honestly, it still confuses me to this day why gavin chose to create solidity instead of just creating a deterministic VM for something like python and just stripping out all of the non deterministic features like dynamic types.

>without having provided any fucking value whatsoever
it allowed a few hundred ICOs to scam thousands of retail investors and the SEC still hasn't arrested anyone.

"muh eth history" is not enough. it could literally be anything

oh wait. is it polkadot?

And that was valued at 130Billion dollars

eth origin is mastercoin, but that's a zombie protocol used only by tether now and can't do smart contracts.
Rootstock would fit 'origins' but it's a federated chain making it equivalent to eos.
I'm 90% sure your 'origin' hint means switzerland and it's an autistic tezos shill thread

Why do you guys even reply to this kind of hand-waving?

It boggles my mind that people think smart contracts are something new. It's quite simply business logic which has existed since businesses used computers. Masses of people taken for a ride by a hype word.
What is new about blockchain is being able to create a value exchange network without the problem of double spending. This is the problem solved by bitcoin. "Smart contracts" are just business logic that makes use of blockchain. Most business logic doesn't need a blockchain, as it is slow, expensive, public, and not under the control of the party owning the business logic. In other words, it's niche. Private blockchains are just a lol concept. Bitcoin has the value network use case covered with the network effect. It's the de facto base currency of the crypto world.
Doing all business logic at all nodes (ethereum's basic design) is just... so bad that one crypto kitties app is enough to crash your network.
The fact is that multi million dollar disputes will still be settled in the real world through real world law and no corporation is ever going to accept "code is law".
ICO's are a cute use case but since projects need to cash out, well, you see what is happening right now.
That being said, since bitcoin fees will get higher over time there will always be room for altcoins for poorfags.
So "smart money", maybe in the sense that they can scam retards for billions worth.

ETH is shit, thats why its dropping

Kek

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#Vlippening

vitalik is a literal scammer trying to sell quantum computers before he sold his blickchain 3.0 internet of things pipe dream
I was naive and bought into it and the DAO and thought the future was here but it's all a bag of lies
I can't believe they pulled the scam into stage 2 but they're admittedly not going to be able to go to stage 3 scam until 2020?

It's VeChain having real world adoption. Smart money knows this.

You are an absolute dumbfuck

Namecoin is respected for some reason by many oldfag devs. Also skeleton shilled it and it had some unexplained bumps in the price.

He is clearly referring to Ark.

Last year there we're so many Ether fanboys here. Now everyone is screaming that it's a scam and a ponzi. You do realize Vitalik said he thought Ether was worth like 5$, and that crypto could go to $0 at any point?

Not sure if you're trolling or not but if you aren't. Then absolutely check your head.

name one usecase for smart contracts that isnt just complex multisig

Good
Better you are thinking about business and language

Why would a company pay MORE expensive developers or train staff to learn another language.

The origin of ETH was created because Bitcoin functions WERE disabled.

Why is there a obsession over increasing blocksize?

Because side chains will now be inside.
It creates value and makes sure value stays inside the network

bitcoindb.github.io/bitcoin-token-website/

Who is developing that? Look into his background.

Understand from a business view and economics and security view

Does this mean the ICO I got into will moon?

>a real proper platform
EC2?

Wrong

>ctrl+f
>stellar
>0 results
God damn you retards are slow.

okay Ripple, Holo or an unreleased coin, I'm not sure if the specific category has to be financial products or decentralized applications or if it can be more niche.

To be true, I'm a brainlet when it comes to these things. I have no fucking idea how to research crypto or how to analyze a github page.

Maybe Universa, but I feel like I'm looking in the wrong direction.

It's dropping because it's a two digit shitcoin
Based Arthur crashed it 50% already and is ready for round 2

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>it will crash forever

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lmao, are you a bitcoin cash shill?
You realize these 'smart contracts' can do nothing else but simple tokens?

This bear market is as retarded as the dec/jan bull.

Yes must be Go back to

Or why don't you take your time, think for yourself, watch the video in that link and understand what's going on

It’s tezos...fuck man I knew it.

FUD Bitcoin (BCH) is Turing complete

Yes.

Macro/micro economics professional here and token economics model behind tezos is A+

It's not....

Can you read

>understand what's going on
a technically obsolete coin tries to copy functionality from more advanced networks, but nothing will come out of it
>t. craig 'call me satoshi' wright

Yes can you not see the writing on the wall vitalik basically shilled tezos himself

>why is ethereum dropping?

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bcash etc?

>EOS is a scam and controlled and a few people.
Apparently "scam" is now defined as a product that's built perfectly to spec, released on time in working order, for a price determined by the market. please, pajeet, tell me why HOLO is better. I'm just dying to know

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