According to the latest elections in Europe:

According to the latest elections in Europe:
The most conservative countries are Hungary, Great Britain, Germany and Ireland.

The most left-winged is Greece.

The most right winged is Poland.

The most liberal are Finland, Estonia, Denmark and France.

The most socialist are Sweden, Spain and Romania.

Your opinion?
zeit.de/politik/ausland/2019-05/elections-in-europe-eu-countries-results-map-english

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interactive map by the link at the end

what is grey?

no category, it seems to me that these are most likely regional parties

Far-Left, Socialist, Conservative, Far-Right = Based

Green, Liberal = Cringe

based romania bomers voting for communists

M5s is not regional, it just doesn't fit in any cathegory

>Your opinion?
I don't know. I wish they put the categories in order from left to right. I also don't know how they would compare to the US.

>far right
nigga pls

>ireland
>conservative
Its neoliberal not conservative

When has normal 1970s norms become far right?

Early 201X when they started calling it ‘far right populism’

Absolutely BASED Romania

Why the FUCK arent independentist parties banned?

Note that France was extremely socialist but years of bad management + media influence made us vote liberal

>a lot of these countries are split between far right and socialist
You’d think there’d be more trouble

romanian boomers literally want USSR back

>politics
A fucking joke thats what it is. Fucking flip floping bastards that have a party name wich doesn't represent what they stand for. And the retards that go vote because they think they will actually do something besides graping postitions are just as bad.
>31% vote for right wing
>all the smaller parties that have programs colliding with each other work thogeter to block the right wingers
Politics and most politicians deserve a few bullets in the neck

the only thing I like about socialists is when they promote industry but our socialists only care about importing degeneracy from the west
and on the other hand our ''conservatives'' are 100% criminals and the only thing they want to conserve is their position of power and often go with some left ideas when they know they'll get more popularity
>muh tourism we need more investments in tourism
a fucking fag state in east europe with no industry left
too bad all our other parties are a joke

>Greece
>most left-wing
It might be better to just look at maps of how big the far-right parties are.

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io voto PD

why do the alps generate far right monsters?

Very outdated map

Outdated for which countries? It says it was last updated in April 2019

Afaik Greece, Austria, Netherlands,

Makes sense that it's outdated for Greece since they had their election recently

>Romania
>"socialist" party passes a neoliberal tax law straight from Pinochet's program
>conservative religious voters
>pro-US/NATO and pro-Israel
>other European socialists hate them
lmao

Our ruling party is right winged only if goes about Church, (muslim) immigration and homosexuality. They are very left winged in economic issues. I would rather say that Poland is conservative country.

you do not contradict me, in Greece the National Socialist Party, and they are leftists

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socialists as a rule do not promote industry; industry usually promotes a right-wing state like in Taiwan or Singapore

Bullshits. Wrong analysis, for France so i suppose it's the same for other countries.
Our electoral system is a recognised scam, should be proportionnal and it isn't.

Fair enough broski

what's the difference between far left and socialist? what are far left and far right even supposed to be?

they do promote the working class while our conservatives only talk about the service sector

There is a difference in definition but in reality it can be everything it isn't. It is mostly used to lure people in these days.

Far left in Europe are unironic commies basically, there are huge differences with the Socialists which are just your average center-left party
Far left is just the far right but they hate "the elite" more than niggers

>industry usually promotes a right-wing state like in Taiwan or Singapore
what? how did you come to that conclusion?

degree of radical attitude towards the market and economy

socialists only harm industry in fact

Far left = commies
Left/center/right = different shades of liberalism (economically, european meaning)
Far right =national liberalism

Socialist is generally neoliberal or democratic socialists. Far left in this case is wanting to be a mere province of a federated EU and import millions of immigrants while far right is wanting your nation to stay a country help the people from there that are homeless and rely more on things made by yourselves and only import thousands of immigrants.

Empty words.
These don't mean anything anymore.
But people still cling to them because they want to fill up the void left after the cold war.

The World is rotting in nihilist neo-feudalism.

>romanian boomers literally want USSR back

user, Romanian boomers hate the USSR. You're probably mixing them up in your mind with Bulgarian Russophiles or whatever. Romanian "boomers" are nationalists from the 60-70s who supported Ceausescu precisely because he distanced himself from the USSR.

>far right
what? we don't have any major far right parties

>conservative

Yeah, that is bullshit.
Merkel party is "conservative", yet the last 10-20 years they moved from center right to center left and pretty much replaced the social democrates there.
>mfw (((they))) still say Germany moved to the right a lot because the AfD (literally Merkel party 20 years ago) got 10+%

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>Far right =national liberalism
I wish, here they are just as socialist as the left

Our main socialist party is actually russian nationalist.

Nazis are called ultra-right only by communists and socialists, but in fact they have the same political coordinates.

Both Communists and Nazis are ultra-right ideologies.

>Far left in this case is wanting to be a mere province of a federated EU
Lol no, GUE/NGL are against the EU as they see it as a symbol of free trade, neoliberal economic policies and market capitalism

>The most socialist are Sweden, Spain and Romania.
Romania will never leave poverty.

maybe but our right is so shit that socialists seem almost better in that regard

>PiS
>right wing

>the most right wing
>the most conservative
PiS is typical civnat conservative boomer party, it's right wing only by name
Economically they're socialist as fuck
Whoever makes these maps is utterly clueless

based greece

Do you know about the industrialization of Singapore, Taiwan, South Korea? It was there that the right-wing governments. They advocated liberalism in the economy, and authoritarianism in politics.

>national liberalism
no such thing
>Socialist is generally neoliberal or democratic socialists
democratics sure but socialists are against neoliberalism
this is the most reasonable answer i think

Our "right wing" are conservative and our "conservative" are liberal libertarians.
trash map

True, its much higher nowdays.

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that's obvious but industrialization is in no way inherently right wing

these are conservatives, brody

>The most liberal are Finland, Estonia, Denmark and France.
European kind of liberal, or American kind of liberal? Because I'm french, and we're not European liberals at all.

>PiS
>far right
omg

As practice shows, successful liberal-economic industrializations took place only in countries with a right-wing government. Practice is the criterion of truth

France has an incredible East/West divide when it comes to politics

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Same here

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>rich countries
liberal and conservative countries

>poor countries
far right, socialist and far left countries

>save chimpanzees!
lithuania

>successful liberal-economic industrializations took place only in countries with a liberal-economic government
no shit

Irish conservative parties are pro abortion, pro pride, pro multiculturalism. The only "conservatism" is low taxes for the rich and let the average Irish person pay exorbitant taxes to make sure scumbags and foreigners have healthcare, houses, and comfortable prisons. Young Irish people hate religion (with good reason), and are all about tattoos, ear gauges, avocado toast and other meaningless shit.

>PiS
>far right
lmao
Who the fuck comes up with this shit?

It is lad, they're talking about fianna fail and fine gael, they're pretty conservative and right wing lad, what with their obsession with the Irish language and the fact they only do progressive things once they're sure the majority of the country loudly and proudly wants it. They only legalized homosexuality because the EU threatened to kick them out if they didn't in the late 90's. Face it despite trying to appear modern progressive and forward thinking we're still really conservative if not far right, like we have zones and towns of the country where only Irish speakers can live... wtf?

xD

arguments?

uh ye that's why they're conservative and not far right, lol.

conservative doesn't mean being racist scaremongering nativists..

Those areas are being hollowed out and filled with refugees and migrants. FG are literally headed by a gay Indian who marches in pride parades. The only conservatism is fiscal conservatism, forcing young Irish people into tenement housing because "the nuclear family is so 20th century".

what argument is to be made here? you just said liberal industrialisation works under a liberal government, wich is obvious and doesn't proves this wrong

based

I said that liberal industrialization is successful only under the right authoritarian government. A u high?

>right ________ government
yes, liberal government

Not sure about anything occurring in the Irish speaking areas but you say that the new progressive bent to Ireland has always been how they were, Varadkar himself before the referendum legalized gay marriage was a staunch conservative against the idea saying that Ireland is a Christian country and marriage is between a man and a woman when he was still in the closet but it's clear they're just doing what basically the majority wants in Ireland. I might not like it nor you but their progressivism is what's pleasing the Irish people even if economically they're more conservative than ever.

So they're the exact fucking same as the hard leftists except on fiscal policy. You obviously haven't seen elderly taxpayers wait for hours for medical treatment while foreigners/travellers get it completely free, never contribute, and spawn 6 children.

Where is our anti-mass-immigration party? Gemma O'D or the NP maniacs? Our "conservatives" are all in on the 2040 plan to bring in immigrants for what exactly? To do jobs on the cusp of being automated away?

the map is based on what the parties call themselfs but i guess intolerants from pol are way too retarded to understand it

>Ireland
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Ireland, is in fact, Western Britain, or as I've recently taken to calling it, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. Ireland is not a country unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning British system made useful by the Anglican religion, system of government and Anglo-Irish elite comprising a full country as defined by the UN.

Many Jow Forums posters interact with a modified version of the British nation every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Britain which occupies Louth to County Cork is often called "Ireland", and many of its citizens are not aware that it is basically the British nation, developed by the English Kings.

There really are Irishmen, and these people do live there, but they’re just a part of the country. Milesians are the proletariat: the worker bees of the country that gather the resources and work in the businesses that Brits run. The Irish are an essential part of the country, but useless by themselves; they can only function in the context of the British system. Irishmen are normally used to do manual labor under British supervision: the whole country is basically Britain with Irishmen added, or the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. All the so-called "Irish" accomplishments are really accomplishments of the United Kingdom.

Okay East Ireland

I don't understand why eastern euros are so divided
Look at the baltics
When you talk to them irl it seems they all agree like "fuck germany give us more money" and then the only thing they disagree on is half of them like niggers and gays and the other half doesn't

based switzerland and austria

I talked about Singapore, etc., how can there be a liberal government, if there are not even elections there?


Authoritarian government, not liberal allo

well the immigrants might turn us from a boring english speaking nation that's a poor copy of britain, be real no-one is going to go back to irish or latin...

you ever insult a traveller, refugee or immigrant about this type of thing you're saying to their face on the street in ireland and not in your echo chamber here?

right wing means market liberal, not authoritarian

Why are you so autistic

also being politically authoritarian doesn't stop you from being a liberal

>far right
>monster
pick one

True. FPÖ will get 35% in September *dabs*

Well I am talking about politics online, so it kinda comes with the territory.

I honestly don't understand why Italy isn't 2 countries.

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They have no choices? Liberal politics implies democratic freedoms; they have no elections and democracy there, only authoritarianism. Dude, what's wrong with you today?

liberal as in MARKET liberal, dumb namefag

I have no problem with *some* immigration. I have a problem with forced diversity and open borders. Why is this a radical opinion?

I would never say this to a traveller btw, don't want twenty cousins burning my house down and solicitors letter from Pavee Point. I suppose you've never lived near a halting site and had to lock down your winter fuel or take measures to stop your fucking dog being stolen, cause I have.

Not necessary. Singapore is liberal in economy, authoritarian in politics. I think you fucking don't know what you're talking about.

Nobody here does but for the terroni and their masters

>Slovakia
>Socialist
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>Singapore is liberal in economy, authoritarian in politics
well you just repeated what i said
>I think you fucking don't know what you're talking about.
arguments?

it was originally about the fact that in the second half of the twentieth century, only politically right authoritarian countries successfully carried out liberal-economic industrialization. And so it is. You did not argue why this is not so. Look at Singapore in 1060 and now. Look at South Korea after the war and now. No democratic government has made third world countries one of the first world. This succeeded only by authoritarian regimes.
That's all, fu