What are your thoughts on the basque language? (Euskera) Its a pre-indoeuropean language, way older than latin, phoenician, and all others
There are 3 theories on its origin >Came from Georgia >Dialect of an extinct language of Aquitania >Former language of the iberian peninsula before the romans invaded
>before the romans invaded I think it's rather before the Indo-Europeans invaded. My guess would be Basque is a leftover of either the Western Hunter-Gatherer times, or the Early Neolithic Farmers who mixed with the WHG before the arrival of IE. But for the second case you would expect basque to have a connection to ancient Middle Eastern languages, which it doesn't.
Xavier Harris
Don't care about the spanish part of the Basque country but i'm sure glad the French Republic repressed any regional language within our borders. We're busy enough with niggers and arabs not knowing how to speak french, we don't need those other retarded languages to undermine the cohesion of our country like it does in spain
Chase Perry
You inviting in those browns is directly in hand with the suppression of the regional cultures. All it takes to be "French" is to speak "French" and be loyal to the Parisian government.
Jordan Barnes
>way older than latin, phoenician, and all others *rolls eyes* Latin and Phoenician backtrack all the way into Proto-Indo-European and Proto-Afro-Asiatic. Basque isn't older than them, we just don't have a fucking clue on what it backtracks into, besides connections with Aquitanian and tentatively Iberian.
I thought that it could be possible that they spoke a former neanderthal language, considering they have higher neanderthal ancestry than other iberians sadly we cant decript the iberian language The french prime minister thought the basque terrorists were freedom fighters when our democracy was still young. He believed the narrative that the democracy was just a façade in order to join the European Union, and vetoed Spain out of joining. It was only with Sarkozy that france started cooperating with spanish police to capture ETA terrorists well yeah
If you like wallowing so much in nationalism and other types of political prostitution, please do humankind a favour and kill yourself with a rifle stuck in your arse while screaming "FOR THE LOVE OF [insert government of your choice]!"
Wyatt Ramirez
No grammatical gender Agglutination Vowel harmony
Basque haplogroup is R1b-M269, the same exact subclade mutation is shared by one other people on earth... the Bashkir who speak a language that has no grammatical gender, is agglutinative, and displays high vowel harmony.
It’s altaic.
Gabriel Miller
>french prime minister Do you remember which one ? We've had 22 prime ministers since 1958
Ryder Miller
Hope this is bait Dying for your region is just as stupid as dying for your country, you stupid macaco
Henry Young
>France >Should be a kingdom
Gavin Mitchell
It's time to let go, Louis. Remove your proxy
Jacob Reed
Haplogroups are nowhere near as important as Jow Forums will have you believe. The only reason they're used is because they're easy to identify. i saw it in a documentary about ETA. It was Gaston Defferre, who compared the ETA to the French Resistance during WW2, the scumbag.
Jacob Myers
L'état, c'est moi
Henry Allen
>Iberia >Its population, the Iberians, formed the nucleus of the Georgians (Kartvelians). Iberia, ruled by the Pharnavazid, Arsacid and Chosroid royal dynasties, together with Colchis to its west, would form the nucleus of the unified medieval Kingdom of Georgia under the Bagrationi dynasty
Well Defferre had an extensive political career but he was never Prime Minister nor President of the Republic so he hardly represents the voice of France
Jacob Ward
How is the eta different from the French resistance? They are fighting against a foreign oppressor for their people and country.
Xavier Bell
It’s the language that is most striking. Why did you ignore that part of my post? The basque language is morphologically and structurally an altaic language. Agglutination is nonexistent among IE but it is existent in all Altaic languages.
Combined with >The Y-DNA haplogroup R-M269 (R1b1a2) of Basque peoples is also highly prominent among the Bashkirs of Volga.[19]
Josiah Green
He is some VOXcel francoists who denies the Basque people to be their own ethnicity
Levi Myers
Ah I see. That’s pretty cringe. The Basque are clearly the descendants of some ancient Altaic culture that latter become isolate. Besides their language, they more or less assimilated into medieval Christian Iberian culture.
Luke Butler
he was interior minister apparently, sorry for the confusion the french resistance was fighting against soldiers from a foreign invasion the ETA group bombed civilians and unarmed people who weren't even involved in politics nor had a position of power >Altaic languages >haplogroup autism gonna be a yikes for me dawg how the fuck am i francoist?? stop projecting your lefty insecurities, im in favour of the basque foral regime and culture, centralization is the most retarded thing in VOX's list of political proposals
You just want to ignore that the supposedly unique mysterious Basque language shares morphology, syntax, and grammar with a people they also share the same exact Y DNA with?
Dylan Torres
Soldiers are civilians with training and weapons.
Oliver Wilson
are you implying that every single person is suspect of becoming a soldier in the future? that justifies killing literally anyone, seems like a retarded argument your mental and semantic gymnastics are showing
Xavier Campbell
Yes
Kevin Brown
Why?
Carson Cox
I am saying those innocent Spaniards were not so innocent and shouldn't have messed with the Basque people
Anthony Howard
>removes original european cultures and languages >simultaneously imports millions arabs and blacks Wtf I hate france now
Jason Sullivan
>innocent spaniards who never even stepped into basque country YEAH, KILL EM
basé et rougepilulé We should've strived for complete unity like France and gotten rid of all these stupid regional languages and customs but alas it's too late now
Jason Sanchez
Basque is just like Irish, another dead language, unlike mine which I have protected for thousands of years.
Brandon Rogers
The retarded thing about spain is that CCAA dont retrieve tax money, they only get to ask for the tax money than the central government collects. Also CCAA and central administrations overlap in so many tasks, its such a retarded burden. Im not for centralization but at least it would be better than this half-assed federation we have If all CCAA had foral regime like basque country from the start, spain would've been so much richer, maybe even richer than France Centralization means that some burocrat in Madrid gets to choose what happens in Ceuta, Melilla, Galicia, Catalonya.. without really knowing about it or being there. Seems bad.
Ryder Davis
They are responsible for the crimes of their people. By not actively working against the Spanish state they sanction crimes against Basque
Jacob Wilson
Basque is a form of Aquitanian, a language that was probably still widely spoken at the time of the Battle of Poitiers in 732, which marksnthe end of Sarrasin expansion but also of Aquitanian independence.
Aquitania was not Celticized during the Iron Age, and Aquitanian can be considered to be older than the Celtic settlement (or Celtic culture adoption) of Gaul sometimes around 550 BC.
That makes Basque maybe as old as Phoenician, but in now way provably older.
Basque is mostly Indo-European, if not completely. The question is whether it has adopted Indo-European forms and words along the way, or if it was originally Indo-European.
Languages isolates are not uncommon. In late Bronze-age Anatolia and Mesopotamia, there are quite a few.
Anthony Gutierrez
Idiot >Basque is mostly Indo-European, if not completely. The question is whether it has adopted Indo-European forms and words along the way, or if it was originally Indo-European.
Basque has some IE vocabulary but it is the literal opposite of IE in its deeper structures and grammar/syntax/morphology.
Jacob Hall
You're right. Still the accumulated Indo-European morphemes and structures are enough to make the Indo-European hypothesis plausible, more plausible than some would like.
Jack Gray
basque also could be related to afro-asiatic languages
Elijah Fisher
You deserve independence. And force everybody around to speak your language.
Levi Russell
Basques are the last remnants of FINNS who ruled over EVROPE (including iberia).
Lincoln Thomas
But Finno-Ugrian folks live from Finland to North Ural (Karelia, Mari El, Udmurtia, Mordovia, KhMAD)
There's been some guy on /his/ claiming it's because Berbers were the original settlers of the peninsula and his evidence is that there happen to be a few cognates between Basque and some Berber places in the Canary Islands and Morocco lel