Why is Right Wing Twitter supporting Communist China over Free Market Hong Kong?

It really is though

you misspelled left wing

This but not actual authoritarian elites, more like idealized authoritarian elites that crack down on everything they irrationally hate.

Israel is behind HK happenings

trolling libruls epic style XD

Based Rasheed

>implying there has never been a good authoritarian
Egalitarianism and democracy is just a tool for oligarchs to seize power through abusing the masses. Do you really think that some sub 60IQ retard who was coached into his vote has the same value as an accomplished doctor?

Hierarchy > equality

>Egalitarianism and democracy is just a tool for oligarchs to seize power through abusing the masses.

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woah, just DABBING on right wingers xD

but no, seriously, you arent enfranchising yourself through liberal democracy

Contrarianism, literally the only reason they even exist

But these are the same people who hate Bernie Sanders because he'll give niggers healthcare and take their guns and freedoms. How can they be terrified of a socialist takeover while being convinced HK riots are a CIA plot?

You think an authoritarian won't abuses "the masses"? You think they won't abuse you?
Let's give all the power to just one guy without any sort of counter power to keep him in check, what could possibly go wrong.

Pffft, Democracy has ushered in the likes of Hitler and Napoleon. It also lead to the rise of the bourgeoisie's power over numerous different states as per the evolution of modern banking and communications. Propaganda will always be effective. True authority doesn't come from just the will of the people alone, democracy is not inherently moral nor is it an effective political countermeasure against tyranny. It doesn't matter if power is given solely to one man or hundreds of thousands, the strongest bulwark against the abuse of a people are the people themselves. Democracy is just one strategy for their benefit. Democracy is an alternative to violence, but there are times when violence is solely needed to bring about change. Yes, there are times in history when power is given to a single man in crisis that were for the benefit of a people as a whole.

Any authority be it a monarchy, republic. theocracy, or dictatorship must abide by noblesse oblige. There are times when an authority is legitimate and ought to be obeyed, and times when it must be violently opposed. No system of government lives outside this rule. A system of anarchistic communes where each person shares the same amount of power can become abusive within its own system.

>Why is Right Wing Twitter supporting Communist China over Free Market Hong Kong?

I support neither, but i personally think that it is very stupid for Hongkongers to be anti-China in situation when more than 50% of their trade is trade with China. Is it kind of suicidal. 25% of Poland's trade is trade with Germany, and i think it would be suicidal if we became openly anti-German.

Hong Kucks are libtards

fuck the race traitor libtards
based XI is promoting chinese culture over imported nigger culture that the HKucks worship

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Because they're the only westerners that are free and catholic and believe in traditional values, the only sane healthy elements left that have not been corrupted by capitalism

because fuck (((capitalism))) and fuck Hong Kong hope Xi crushes them

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Hong Kong ain't catholic though

Who is catholic? Hong Kong?

I support Free Hong Kong with the intent of fracturing Chinese hegemony and shrinking their sphere of economic influence. Would benefit the US. But I'm a nationalist not just some right wing nutjob that cares about other countries well being or government.

Oh he is talking about wypipo living in hk

>Would benefit the US

Would it benefit Hong Kong?

name?

The bigger question is why isn't left wing twitter (except for tankies)? The answer is that the current left is more liberal than anything else while the right is increasingly more socialist.

because right wingers are, for the most part, total fucking retards that haven't the faintest idea of what they're actually supporting

Don't care. I support all independence movements inside China.

They don't have any real opinions, they are just contrarians for the sake of it

Like this one here

Roberta Paulson

Interesting. I guess it must feel good not to care too much about politics and just go with what the media tells you to go and accuse everyone else of being contrarian. Is this the power of the left?

i consider myself quite centrist, I think far right wingers are retards, and I think the majority of the modern left are just clowns and mentally ill trannies

the best pill is the centrist pill in which you realise that often enough, depending on the subject, both sides can be stupidly fucking wrong

>everyone who disagrees with me is left-wing
Monkey logic

>implying that left wingers aren't mostly fucking retards who have no idea what they're supporting
most people in general are retarded, my dude

>why isn't the left supporting an authoritarian police state that's actually also thinly veiled state capitalism
>implying China is a real socialist country

>no really, im right wing i swear
>also right wingers are retarded
just DABBING on yourself

why wouldn't the left support an authoritarian police state? Name a single leftist country that wasnt so and I'll tell you why you are wrong

>"centrism"
lmao ok. Centrism = liberalism in today's world. You're just apathetic.
But they do support it. Communist third worldist support China quite fiercely and think they are the good guys fighting american imperialism. I see the all the time posting on this very board. You must be a very confused liberal.

Edgy contrarians

are you really this bored now that bolsonaro cut down all the swinging trees?

No. Are you bored that a botched referendum cut off your nation's relevance forever?

yes, why do you ask?

thanks! Found her

Because you seemed like a petulant faggot so I figured you were projecting.

black of white fallacy. GG, thx for playing

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>leftist country
What the fuck is a leftist country? We've had left wing governments in France, so did other countries, they didn't turn into authoritarian police states. I know you're going to bring up eastern europe and south america, and I know you're going to ignore the fact that pretty much all of those were coups orchestrated by corrupt people calling themselves socialists to appeal to the people (and to the USSR).

You just implied in your previous post that "the left" doesn't support China? Which is true, nobody in their right mind would support China. They are representative of both aggressive, eco-unfriendly capitalism and """socialist""" police state

When the boot kicks their ass, thats what makes them orgasm

no i am talking about right wing twitter, and why it defends china, like op asks

True, they're socialist, not communist

>You just implied in your previous post that "the left" doesn't support China?
The mainstream "left" are now mostly liberals. Even the ones with socialist or anarchist beliefs are seemingly just confused liberals and higly ineffective at anything but serving their corporate masters inadvertently, which is the opposite of what they claim they want to do.

The mainstream right (also mostly liberals) doesn't support China by the way. Some fringe 'left' elements in europe and america support it. I guess you could call this the "far left". Currently the far right is beginning to support China as well, but of course there are exceptions.

I'm significantly more neutral in this, as I recognize how vile the chinese government can be.

What do you mean by right wing Twitter? Do you mean fascists? If you mean fascists I think it is pretty obvious. I have yet to see a right winger who supports China.

Strong values are more important than economy. Hong Kongs values and China's system are not compatible.

>When you literally embrace tyranny to own the libs

The entire 20th century is basically the left embracing tyranny to own the libs until it became too unfashionable, so now they call the communist party of China and the USSR fascist instead.

China is more fascist than communist

freedom ain't free buddy

Bingo

China is triggered that all the smart chinks went to HK to get basic human rights. To keep their NPC mainland insects in check they had to stamp out HK.
Now Xi is sperging out and asking his NPC army to try and stop HK protests.

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>Right Wing
>free market
Imbecile

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They have a stock market. The government just joint ventures with private business.

They are very explicit about what they are doing. China's plan is to simulate their interpretation of what a liberal democracy is by creating a capitalist class, so then they can proceed to a real socialist phase. Of course it will never happen because communists are deluded retards, but this process they are trying to manage isn't inconsistent with marxism. Marx was ultimatelly an "accelerationsit" in his own mind, as he believed capitalism would inevitably lead to a worker's rebelion that would lead to socialism, then communism.

Most right-wingers are libertarian and most libertarians are right-wing. They support kleptocracy, corporate oligarchy, and elections decided by bribes and lobbyists.

communists are right wing

Most left wingers are also libertarian socialists now and they effectly support the same thing (except that they think they don't, just like right libertarians think they don't)

>Most right-wingers [in America] are libertarian

>people getting to choose who leads, even if they are influenced one way or another
>worse than some autistic ruling with absolute authority

Name one (1) authoritatian government that wasn't a complete disaster.

the mainstream left wing in north america is extremely pro-government intervention dummy

They really aren't. Communism, however, effectively leads to a more "right-wing" government, because it accelerates leftist degenerate policies to the point where the ultra-conservative wing in the party ends up in charge, and because the whole system they create centers around a one-party-state, when the more conservative elements get in power they tend to stay there forever.

When people like Trotsky were in charge of the USSR you had free sex and love and the traditional family was shunned and disencouraged. They turned a highly traditional country and quickly introduced divorse laws, and encouraged children to be raised "communnaly" as it was believed that the traditional family was the source of classisism and private property. This lead to 7 million orphans roaming around the streets, an utter disaster. Then Stalin reversed most of that proccess and slowly turned the USSR into a family oriented, ultraconservative and anti-gay ethnic russian empire. Meanwhile Trotsky ended up in the US after slaughtering millions of his supposed countrymen and complained about how the USSR failed as they are all a bunch of ignorant peasants and got ice-picked to death.

The reason why the west is the way it is is precisely because there's a light "conservative" pushback to leftist social-libertarian tendencies, so the degeneration is slower, as well as a market economy that allows for the type of material prosperity that keeps the masses sedated.

The Roman Republic/Empire? Most large Empires that lasted hundreads of years? You'll have to define what you consider to be a "disaster"

You don't know what "left-libertarian" is, right? I'm basically talking about Chomskyite anarchists.

Trump is a Chinese/Russian Puppet dumbie. Steve Bannon used to live in China and loves their fascistic system, he's kinda like the Dresnok spy for China.

This is peak tinfoil. Trump is on of the few US presidents to push back against China at all since its market opened. Logically Bill Clinton seems much more likely to be a chinese puppet.

the better question is why do you think twitter is populated with real human being instead of bots, foreign psyops agents, and shills?

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>most libertarians are right-wing
libertarianism is inherently right wing

This is retarded. Libertarianism was originally a left wing concept.

explain

>libertarianism is inherently right wing
libertarian is centrist or center right.
it is derived from enlightenment philosophy which is centrist.
stop talking about shit you dont know about.

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Can't you use google? This is common knolwedge. The word was first coined as a political term by communists in the 1800's. It only started being used to mean "classical liberalism" by americans in the 50's. And classic liberalism wouldn't even be considered "right-wing" by its original conception under the french revolution, american liberalism was considered left-wing at the time. It's only considered right now because communism became the new standard for what "left" is and liberalism (capitalism) for the "right", which is stupid by the way. If anything, historically libertarianism has always been inherently left wing.

it's a mass psyop

anything that supports market liberalism is right wing

>anything that supports market liberalism is right wing
Only if you're using a strictly marxist dialectic for what the left x right political axis should be. The original "right", meaning the nobles and the clergy, were against market liberalism. The girondins (market liberals) would be the center-left of center.

Beijing isn’t communist, and Hong Kong doesn’t practice free market capitalism

Most right wingers are just contrarians
Thats why they're right wingers in the first place

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left wing:statism
right wing:market liberalism
that's it. there's a reason why it's called the economical axis. stop bringing up outdated meanings that have nothing to do with modern politics.

Isn't this bizarre to you? The "right" theoretically represents the status quo, the norm, the traditional. Yet the term now is used to describe people with rebelious political views. Shouldn't people start calling the right the "left", and shouldn't so called progressives recognize their hegemony in mediatic and educational institutions that made them the norm when even techno-capital is now obviously on their side?

>left wing:statism
Ridiculous. Anarchists are left-wing. Communists aim is to ultimately extinguish the state or make it mostly obsolete. This isn't outdated, this is how modern leftists still percieve themselves. You're just a very narrow minded liberal with limited understanding of both classic and modern left-wing politics.

in this context statism is obviously a purely economical term. authoritarianism is what left wing anarchists oppose.

>in this context statism is obviously a purely economical term
This is so stupid. To anarchists, capitalism=state. They don't acknowledge your views on what the "free market" is or that it even exists. They oppose the state because from their ideological perspective a stateless society will be egalitarian and classless.

first define right wing

what is right wing?

The right is more about opposition to human rights than it is about supporting any economic system.