This domestic terrorism expert tried to warn us about right-wing extremism

He lost his job because of it:
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>Over the past two weeks, 25 people were killed in a series of attacks by apparent white supremacists in El Paso, Texas, and Gilroy, California. These events are part of a global “race war,” in which white supremacists, neo-Nazis and other members of the New Right have killed hundreds of people around the world since 2011.

>On Sunday, in what appears to be another white supremacist terror attack, a 21-year-old white man opened fire on a mosque in Norway. A 75-year-old man who is a member of the mosque’s congregation tackled the alleged terrorist to the ground and then subdued and disarmed him.

>Instead of actively and robustly confronting the threat posed to the United States by white supremacists and other right-wing extremists, the Trump regime has instead chosen to give them aid and comfort. These are Donald Trump’s “very fine people,” after all. The administration has defunding law enforcement programs that target such groups, and has exerted other forms of political pressure as well.

>Last week it was reported that Attorney General William Barr, Trump’s appointee and de facto personal consigliere, suppressed a report that white supremacists had been responsible for all “race based” domestic terrorist attacks that year. Moreover, since the 9/11 attacks in 2001, right-wing terrorists have killed more people in the United States than Islamic terrorists.

>It is not a coincidence that political violence has been increasing since Trump’s campaign and now three years into his presidency. Such an outcome is predictable and reflects the permissive environment for right-wing political violence and terrorism created and nurtured by Trump, the Republican Party and their media allies

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>right-wing establishment doesn't care about right-wingers chimping out
Not all that surprising desu

The occupiers call it terrorism, I call it resistance

It's always hilarious watching the trump government and following trying to pretend they have nothing to do with these shooters.

kys

Yeah, then they'll try to project it on the left by saying stupid shit like "antifa are the real terrorists"
Not an argument

It wouldn't be so retarded if they didn't blame any comparable incidents on political and ethnic groups whenever it suits them, but whitecel school shooters are just deranged lone gunmen totally unaffiliated to their cause despite being outspoken Trump supporters

Oh no. Right wing terrorism :(

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this is Jow Forums, not Jow Forums for lefties

How can a whole demographic / voter group be blamed for only a small fraction of its population?
is literally the argument of 13%: 51%

b-but wypipo bad!!

It's the duty of white people to condemn the crimes of white people loudly, otherwise people could think that they approve of right wing terrorism. Just like I expect muzzies to behave.

Piss off Shitler.

>"There have been examples of right-wing extremists going on social media and “liking” certain things that are associated with Democrats, liberals and progressives to try to cause confusion as a way of deflecting attention away from their true cause. One cannot depend on the extremists to be reliable. Their writings are important to analyze and assess — but you also have to take the target selection into consideration, the types of capabilities they possess, whether these right-wing extremists reference other mass shooters and whether they borrowed tactics from them."
The good old red herring, yes

Not exactly the same, since one implies a biological cause, the other an ideological one, but I tend to agree.

Radical Islam, and Islam in general, is basically right wing anyway, also if you compare native terrorism, right wing terrorism is the only that resulted in a dead person, the only that resulted into injuries and the one who were arrested the most, so it makes me think maybe the definition of terrorist attack here is very open so a random guy in a strike burning a container is considered a terrorist attack, which is why there are more left wing attacks in that list.

Extreme cope

He's right. Both want people to convert to their religion, both hate gay people and others they deem degenerates, both support terrorism, both see that women's place in society is to bear children and cook at the kitchen... Right wing = islam.

but I approve "white" terrorism.
Death to normies and death to shitksins.

You are not white. You are an asian nomad.

>hyper conservative religious terrorism isn't right wing
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Antifa are terrorists though. That try to prevent people from participating in our democracy and exercising democratic rights by the use of violence for political goals.

>normies
That includes you, normalfag retard.
Go back to and smear shit on the walls with the other braindead fuckfits.

Women do the same by not giving sex to right wingers

He's wrong and you have to exaggerate to make a false equivalency

Preventing people like fascists from trying to destroy our democracy from doing so isn't terrorism, it's the defense of democracy. Same reason we don't allow extremist islam in our society.

>That try to prevent people from participating in our democracy and exercising democratic rights
You've just described the rich. Well done, you clueless cunt.

What am I exaggerating? Right wing = islam.

The right isn't monolithic.

The PVV (anti-Islam party) has more female voters than male voters.

They say the same about islam but I'm not buying it.

Yes aunt Greta from Facebook
Besides FvD is the new hot shit and it's full of incel men who think they're clever and classy but can't get laid and end up writing books about what women really want

Islam is all about one book, of course it's monolithic.

Thierry literally has an Iranian gf.

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And Annabel Nanninga literally helped a gay refugee by taking him into her house.

While the left wing is all talk and just likes to spend other peoples money.

.t churka

Weird. If you think about it, the msm narrative is the following : "Trump is the sparkle that made right wing terrorism possible". But he will probably be reelected. Once this happens, can we say that indeed, the United States of America is a rogue, terroristic nation, and all its allies are terrorist apologists ?

>the United States of America is a rogue, terroristic nation
Yes
>its allies are terrorist apologists
Yes, and not only apologists. With allies like Saudi Arabia and Israel it's allies are straight terrorist supporters.

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The US is already losing so many allies with Trump anyways. The only countries that are sucking his cock right now are shitholes like Israel and Brazil

Nah, islam if anything is left wing.
High tier nomenklatura (orthopraxy), very social oriented religion, one of the pillar of islam is help for the poors, except the modern day kremlin (Mecca) the religion is indeed not centralized, there are islamS. Indonesian islam has barely something to do with Iranian islam which is different from Egyptian islam. So we can pretty much say that islam, albeit standing on a rigorous text book, will be loose on the practice accordingly to the location. Also in islam, racism has no place, in the Ummah you are all equal before Allah and his main prophete Mohammed (pbuh), and this is the biggest argument against the idea that islam is far right.

>Nah, islam if anything is left wing.
Yes, islam that is famous for its atheism/freedom of worship, gay rights, women's rights etc. Nope, Islam = right wing.

Poor arguments.
Socialism -> left wing
Liberalism (not the american one) ->right wing
Organised ollectivism (leninism, stalinism, islam) is inherently left wing. Stalinism was harsh left leaning idology, against freedom of thought, gay rights and so on, still left leaning ideology. You should check your definitions.

If there is one thing the Turks have ever done right, then it's BTFO of subhumans like you.

>In Europe they overwhelmingly vote left wing so if anything I will consider them left wing.
>It doesn't matter if they are conservative or not what matters is the motive for the attack which is mostly religious.

Well let's ask seriously a bit : is violence a good thing or not for the right ?

If we look at other terrorists, we could look at muslims, are they better or worse off since they do terrorism ? I'd say better off, they scare authorities enough that they don't dare push them too much, they have only gained ground since they got more violent. Another example would be the yellow vests, as soon as they started breaking shit the government caved in and cancelled all the laws, gave free money to everybody. While they completely ignore any pacifist protests.
Seems like the gov's message is that violence is the only way to get heard
On the other hand it definitely does not give a good image and an argument can be made that it drives away all sorts of moderate elements, older people, religious elements, and such. That being said it is unlikely that the far right can ever take power through voting. Still, it contributes to disarming people and if the "accelerationist" goal is to provoke a civil war then that is a double edged sword.

This is a topic which understandably is not discussed much and i'd like to say im not at all calling for violence here btw, this is simply brainstorming about the consequences of violence for the far right ?
Anyways i'd say the violence is so chaotic because there is no doctrine. That's why it makes me laugh when you see twitter leftists going "the far right radicalizes young kids with the same methods as isis" like Jow Forums is a highly trained mossad psyops think tank, please, if Jow Forums is a terrorist group then i have never seen such a poorly organized terrorist group with absolutely no consensus, more like it's a bunch of untrained provocateurs that egg on some unstable individuals, then they wait and see what they do.

I get that for many people this is emotional and you feel good seeing brown people get shot or whatever but with a more detached view what do people here think ? Has terrorism helped or harmed the right ?

Fascism = right wing = islam. It is YOU who should check your definitions. Like who is today left wing and stalinist? No one. Right wing fascists and islamofascists are everywhere in comparison.

Bait

retards -> left wing
retards -> right wing
we the normal people -> don't think using a 1 dimensional scale based on a temporary parliament arrangement in 19th century france for all politics is a good idea

Right wing terrorism gives a physical presence to our ideas and it goes against the general sentiment of helplessness ("yeah I vote far right but nothing can be done").
I think it helps, on top of feeling good to see brown people get a taste of their own medicine

There is no racism in fascist ideology, which is highly socialist, promethean (wants to get rid of the Vatican claws) as defined by Benito Mussolini il Ducce. user, when you talk about something be sure to have at least the basics. Read Mussolini's fascism, then we can talk about it and maybe place it on the political spectrum with critical thinking, because here you simply haven't the level required for it.

>we the normal people
The scum of earth who vote for the same thieves again, and again, and again, because TV/youtube told them to do so. You don't deserve freedom to be honest.

i said WE THE NORMAL PEEEPÖÖÖÖ

>me so smart me read books
Sorry, everyone with a brain knows that fascism is a right wing ideology and that islam(ofascism) is a right wing ideology. Think for a moment instead of memeing, if you were to replace mohammed with jesus there would be no difference with far right christians and muzzies. Both want the same thing, to subjugate the world under their religious dogma that hates feminism, gays, freedom of thought. You know this.

Retard

>t. far right christian who is deeply unsettled by the revelation he is no different from muzzies in the eyes of normal people.

By your definition of right wing there is not a single western European party that is right wing.

not him but like half of the far right absolutely adores gays and jews, maybe it's a majority even, neo nazis are a small subset of the mainstream far right
you might as well say islam and far left are the same thing because they want to destroy israel and kill white people, that's something you often hear actually

The Finn is a repeat offender in subtle trolling but he's losing it a bit this time

>Sorry, everyone with a brain knows that fascism is a right wing ideology
I will make an estimation, it's not rigorous, just an estimation, you can trust me or no it doesn't matter. I can tell you that online, 99,9% of the persons haven't a clue on what is actual fascism. They're repeating a word they've heard here or there. They can't say when it emerged, where, why, for which purpose. I agree on the fact that you can talk over a subject even if you can't sum the base of it, you're free to do so. But don't expect others to take you seriously. It's like a religious man telling you that earth might only be 6000 years old, it's not reasonable. You are not reasonable user.
>and that islam(ofascism) is a right wing ideology.
Islam is definitely not fascism, read more about what is fascism please, check your definitions; islam can be rigorous, I agree.
>Think for a moment instead of memeing
We are debating, not memeing.
>if you were to replace mohammed with jesus there would be no difference with far right christians and muzzies.
Issa Ibn Maryam is a prophete in islam, Jésus for the christians is the Lord. That being said, he can't be compared to Mohammed (pbuh), the main prophete of Allah.
>Both want the same thing, to subjugate the world under their religious dogma that hates feminism
Jesus never wanted to subjugate the world. Read the new testament.
> gays, freedom of thought. You know this.
As an old greek, the only thing that I'm sure of, it's that I know nothing.

>Nah, islam if anything is left wing.
löl

'löl' is an argument, nevertheless a really cheap one, one must admit.

I go to PragerU and white nationalism doesn't exist

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What ? No violence is never good.

That's just your opinion.

You are aware we are talking about terrorist groups here and not "Islam", whatever flavour that may be as you pointed out. I'm pretty sure terrorists and extremists have their own idea of who belongs to their fantasy of an "Ummah". Fascists also love "their own", excluding all "others".

The left:
>Islam is right wing because they don't have freedom of religion
Also the left:
>fuck Christians

The left:
>Islam is right wing because they are sexist
Also the left:
>all men ate evil

The left:
>Islam is right wing because they are racist
Also the left:
>all white people should die

The left:
>Islam is right wing because they are against freedom of speech and thought
Also the left:
>everyone who doesn't 100% agree with me is a nazi and should be locked up

hyperbole and insane generalizations: the post

>You are aware we are talking about terrorist groups here and not "Islam"
Nope, factually wrong, the discussion begins from there where the spaniard talks about islam in general and not just a small group of islam. Please, follow the discussion and avoid making up things, for the sake of understanding.

>whatever flavour that may be as you pointed out. I'm pretty sure terrorists and extremists have their own idea of who belongs to their fantasy of an "Ummah".
That is why 'terrorism' is an abusive word. It's used everywhere, on everything, even when brainwashed schizophrenic individuals end up in a suicide by cops because it fits political agendas.
>Fascists also love "their own", excluding all "others
Fascists ? You have an idea on who they are ? Any political party, a particular fascistic organisation ? Are you sure you're not chasing a literal ghost ?

>If we look at other terrorists, we could look at muslims, are they better or worse off since they do terrorism ? I'd say better off, they scare authorities enough that they don't dare push them too much, they have only gained ground since they got more violent.
I wouldn't agree. This was a transition stage at most, but you can clearly see that a legal and social backlash has built up against Muslims because of this everywhere where they're not a very large minority.

Please look up right wing and then shoot your mother in the face for giving birth to a reactionary retard like you

Interesting post. If not a proxy, we've got a shot on indians scholars. Interesting.

What did I do wrong I just posted official EU statistics. Are you gonna shoot up th EU parliament now?