>No Turkey is not Europe!!!
>Biggest city in Europe: Istanbul
No Turkey is not Europe!!!
When people say america they mean the US not all of america. When people say europe they mean the white christian parts that are culturally european.
Only 2% of Turkey's territory is actually in Europe. Istanbul itself is transcontinental.
>Istanb*L
Constantinople
Biggest city in E*rope is Moscow
Turkey is european. There is literally no point in denying that. Only west eurofags do that. But to the rest of the world. Turkey is in Europe. I mean their most important city is on of the two hearts of europe (Rome+Istanbul).
Its Moscow dumbass
>Istanb*L
TSARGRAD
Their culture, beliefs, and ideals are closer to Arabs and shitskins than they will ever be to E*ropeans
it's Moscow, you shoe size IQ Turk
Konstantiniya*
Turks are not Europeans. Europe is a cultural concept not a geographic one.
I don't regard Turkey as European but I like to say it is just to trigger wh*Toids
What makes them non-european? honestly asking. If you mean islam would you consider bosniaks and albanians muslim? Western turkey isn't even very muslim. For example Izmir could be like any other european city
Europe isn't about le ebin ideals. Compare Europe 100 years ago to today. Compare Europe amongst itself throughout it's history. It was always divided and it was never a single entity with a single government with a single culture with a single set of beliefs with a single set of ideals. kys amerigoblino.
Besides Turks are much closer to Balkanlars than they are close to arabs. Even thou they want to pretend they are central asian. They are still a Balkan country in it's core. So go fuck yourself. Turkey is european.
BYZANCE
>would you consider bosniaks and albanians muslim
Consider european
Europe begun and continues to exist as a geographic concept. And turks are culturally european. Balkanlars to be specific. so kys amerigoblino
Bosniaks and Albanians are European peoples historically, culturally, and literally as they speak a European language.
They also include Albania and Bosnia as Europe even tho they're muslim, as well as the non-white Christian southron countries
seethe more
Russia is not Europe
agree
heir most important city is one* of the
The geographic concept of Europe is arbitrary and based on cultural and historical borders.
Trying to convince everyone so desperately that you're a European, roach? You will never be. Civilization in Europe begins and ends in Greece. Beyond that point are a bunch of sandniggers who don't create shit
>muh Europe was never one
So I guess the Middle East is arbitrary as well? With all of the different political/religious Ideologies like Baathism, Shia Islam, ans so forth, it isn't a conglomeration of retards, is it? You never contributed anything good to European culture. The Roman Empire is core Europe, and you niggers larping as such isn't considered being "European".
Hello shitskin diaspora LMAO, you're the ones seething
Byzantion*
Btw, good luck getting into the EU you fucking fags
Pretty retarded aren't we?
It's been Turkish for 500 years and there's nothing you can do about that
Why Greeks are so obsessed with us? It's like they think about nothing but Turks all day. Really pathetic.
yeah the middle east is arbitrary and there is no such thing as middle eastern identity and geographically it doesn't make sense. So Turkey is not middle eastern. The middle east can be divided into 3 regions; Mashriq, Iran and Balkans (Turkey). Those regions interacted with each other and influenced each other but they are distinct. Turkey is european easily.
The Roman empire's most important provinces were Italy and MENA. Nothing from Europe. Romans viewed themselves as civilized and that is why they preferred to associate with civilized people e.g. EGyptians. Rather than "barbarians" in Europe.
>le ebin sandniggers
now I know that you're just another amerimutt that doesn't understand what he's talking about and just can't have a proper argument. kys amerigoblino
btw Turkey doesn't have sand.
besides my region contributed civilization. So Europe does owe us a lot.
European means Christian or Secular Countries shaped by Christianity on the continent of Europe.
European as an identity was first used to describe Christian inhabitants of Muslim ruled Spain.
No one likes Muslim, visit Bosnia and compare it to Croatia or Hungary, two different words simply because one are Christian and the others are Muslim.
>mutt talking about European culture
Opinion automatically discarded.
You fucking tard. What was once European (aka Anatolia) became the Middle East the moment you sandiggers came into it and made it into a shithole. Egypt also used to be pretty civilized until sandiggers came to it. You are just Arabs larping as Europeans. The German barbarians have accomplished more in modern history than you arabs have ever done in a lifetime. They adoptes European ideals and values, while all you could do is change your horrendous script from Arabic to Latin because one of your kin had a lick of sense in him.
Turks haven't contributed SHIT to Europe. All they've accomplished is capturing parts of the Mediterranian and Europe using Chinese technology and Arab religion and inflicting pain such as forced conversion, deveshirme, etc. No one's ever heard of any T*rk philosopher. No one has ever heard of any T*rk invention. That's because 1. They probably contributed very little to civilization and 2. THEY AREN'T CONSIDERED EUROPEAN. Get this through your fucking thick skull. Everyone's heard of Shoepenhauer, Mendeleev, Aristotle, etc. No one's heard of Mehemet or Abdil or whatever horrid name comes to your mind. You aren't European. Just because you captured a European city doesn't mean you are European. It jsut means you are brutes.
Rich coming from a Kurd-Greek-Armenian-Turkic-Negro conglomeration
oh no so the le ebin heroes of europe the greeks and romans aren't european??? lmao keep lying to yourself. go to the time you claim european was first used as an identity and compare the christian shitholes with muslim parts. Who according to your logic have different standards of living simply because of le ebin religion.
Religion isn't what determines if someone is european. The fact that Turkey is in Europe, is white and has a european culture is what makes it european.
Turkey is not in europe, is not white and does not have european culture
Turks are slayers of Hungarians (mongols) and the liberators of the Balkans, they are europeans
It is half in Europe and half in Asia. But not allowed in the EU.
>Turkey is European
Don't insult them like that. They have culture, history and a future. Something no European can claim.
>What was once European (aka Anatolia) became the Middle East the moment you sandiggers came into it and made it into a shithole
except we were never in anatolia. not even in the ancient times. We stopped at Antioch.
>Egypt also used to be pretty civilized until sandiggers came to it.
Egypt was always Mashriqi
>The German barbarians have accomplished more in modern history than you arabs have ever done in a lifetime.
modern history is different due to urbanization and industrialization. But we are still light-years more important than germanics.
>They adoptes European ideals and values
there was never one set of European values. Never. Diversity of thought was present everywhere in the world.
>while all you could do is change your horrendous script from Arabic to Latin because one of your kin had a lick of sense in him.
we still use arabic script? It fits perfectly with the root system.
And yes Turks are niggers but they are european niggers.
>Everyone's heard of Shoepenhauer, Mendeleev, Aristotle
I didn't except for Aristotle. So maybe that's true in america or europe or whatever shithole your amerigbolino ass is trying to suck off.
Also turks are genetically european. They are literally white people. retard. They are south east europeans. aka Balkanlars.
Turkey is culturally european
You are the worst poster to ever post on this god forsaken board.
I know why you're lying to yourself but I just want to tell you that you're lying to yourself
they will 100% join the EU eventually even if the common eurpoors are in denial about it
If Fins and Hungarians are European thenTurkey is European, Turks are not Arabs but byzantine-Kazakh mutts.
>European means Christian
Christianity is a Jewish cult and has nothing to do with the cancerous region of Asia people refer to as Europe. You have your own retarded native religions, maybe larp with them instead of larping as the chosen people of a Middle Eastern death cult that wasn't supposed to exist after the death of Saul.
Europeans are parasites who have opted to suckle on the corpses of long death beasts. It's fucking pathetic and I sincerely hope Africans and Chinese eventually enslave you all and deliver just desserts.
t.
No it isn't. It's Moscow.
Religion is what determines culture, what shapes language, customs, feasts etc. pp. you inbred Arab imbecile.
I did not speak of living standar but customs. To deny that the last ~2000 years European culture was not shaped by Christianity is braindead and simply false.
There is nothing European about Turkey besides stuff the Greeks built which they turned into Muslim garbage anyways.
no don't you just don't get the intellect of the amerigoblino master race. Christian person = a true european
t. lives in Country built by Europeans
All the time.
>Tsargrad
>Because European ideals aren't set in stone that means WE are Europeans. Lick our asses, we have done more than any European
Holy shit, fuck off. I guess that means I can be Asian since Asian ideals are on a continuim, correct?
I also see you avoided talking about the second part of my post, where you have contributed nothing except putting aome minarets on a Greek building. You're a fucking fag. Keep having your wet dream of being accepted as European. Cause that'll never happen. You can't argue against someone who is delusional. And btw, Germans have done WAY, WAAY more than you faggots. Even the Hebrews have created a more successful civilization and created more technology than the lot of you, and are more European culture wise than you with like 1/20 of your population
This sign during mubarak makes me lol because they worship Sisi
>they are literally white people
Not they’re not, they would laugh at you if you called them white. First, Turks consider themselves to be black and when people think of a Turk, someone with brown skin comes to mind. Cherrypicked images of blondes don’t mean Turkish people are white
Religion can influence culture but it can never be culture on it's own. So you're telling me that if someone changes his religion he suddenly has a different heritage? fucking retard. Muslims in Ghana have a different culture from muslims in Brunei. Just like Christians in China have a different culture from Christians in the american south. Geography alone is 10 times more important for the influence on culture than religion. and btw Turkey is geographically in europe.
Europe is not white. Only pure blooded phoenicians are white.
Why turks behave so nationalistic on the Internet?
inferiority complex
I have to agree with you
I'm not behaving nationalistic at all. You're better off asking that question to Russians online btw
>you are not yoroope!
>Russia is not Europe
>Turkey is
hi Mustafa
>Bulding on Persian/Greco-Roman ideas and science constitutes as Ottoman creations
Look at how long those wikis are.
en.m.wikipedia.org
Look at how long the German wiki is ALONE, not mentioning other Europeans. You fucking tard, you contributed ZILCH to civilization.
>Also turks are genetically european. They are literally white people. retard. They are south east europeans. aka Balkanlars.
They are not
They are Western Asians and cluster genetically to Kurds, Western Iranians and the Caucasus
The only genetically Europeans in Anatolia are islamized Balkan people
If Russia is Europe, why Turkey not? Both countries have a large number of Muslims.
Thracia is, Turkey is not.
> Religion can influence culture but it can never be culture on it's own
lad, have you ever visited your Saudi neighbours?
You do realize Turkish capital is in Asia right?
>Chechnya is considered a part of Russia, not just a Russian vassal state
I bet that you consider yourself Muslim cause you got those Tatar Muslims living in Crimea
I didn't say we I said turks are european which is true. Your amerigoblino ass can't change that. you never will be able to do that.
And there is no such thing as "asian" identity retard. Europe literally in asia but that doesn't mean they have an "asian" """"identity""".
Also I'd rather kill myself than be a eurofag europoor. Imagine being a european? disgusting.
Average Turk is whiter than the average greek yet white dispoos lick shit off greek ass. Turks are white in the same way most Balkanlars are white. They are probably whiter than you Pajeet.
People like to think many false things because they like lying to themselves.
truest post in this thread
we already agreed that Europe ends at Urals and Caucasus
Turks are native anatolian + greek + slavic + albanian + caucasian + scytho-turkick. aka they are white. they like to lie to themselves and claim to be mongolian but they are white.
>Average Turk is whiter than the average greek
Just like albino nigger is whiter than some Swede
Again, Turks are literally brown and they consider themselves to be African
>I didn't say we I said turks are european which is true. Your amerigoblino ass can't change that. you never will be able to do that
>being so butthurt about not being European
>NO NO NO I'm not TURK
And there is no such thing as "asian" identity retard. Europe literally in asia but that doesn't mean they have an "asian" """"identity
There is European Identity, but no asian identity. Ok. I can't argue with you anymore. You win. Wow.
gibe Constantinopolis back on the orthodox land
That doesn't even contain the whole of European Plane. lmao
Why did Constantinople get the works?
You overestimate the European ancestry of Turkey lad
I mean yes, some decent amount of them have Balkan or Mediterranean ancestry but it is somewhere around 10-20 %
The rest look clearly non-Euro, either like hook-nosed West Asian or chink-eyed Central Asian populations
A lot of Turks also look like a mix between both spectra
>cites "Cats" as an example of American theatre
>it was created in the UK
Saudi is not a true identity. Saudi monarchy is authoritarian as fuck and they turned arabia upside down. When the region was at minimal rule and was basically organic before. Each region "prospered" with it's own culture. Saudi cultural regions were Najd, Hejaz, Yemen, Bahrain/Al-Ahasa. But you make a good point. Living under one polity can create a common culture. Just look at France. Their entire identity exists because of the Franks and the dynasties that followed and ruled that kingdom.
if you want to see it as a sub-continent than yes. But that can't be if you want to see it as a peninsula.
this has nothing to do with europeaness. All europeans are literally mixed anyway. Being european doesn't just mean white. Everyone will lick the shit off greek ass even thou many greeks are not white. being european isn't about being white. that being said most turks are white.
they meme being black because of bullying and because it's funny. but they are white not brown. Even if you want to consider them swarthy white. they are still white.
I didn't say there was a european identity. I just said Turkey is european which is not false.
that is europe except it makes sense
It is more than 10-20%. More like 90%+ if Kurds are not counted.
you can see the cats amerigoblino movie as the amerimutt version
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>Hearts of Europe
>Not Paris and London
That is not historic or traditional europe. That is in the modern era of Globalism. London and Paris are still holding on to their relevancy due to immigrants. In both cities the natives are minorities. That true two cities that shaped Europe are Rome and Istanbul.
>It is more than 10-20%. More like 90%+ if Kurds are not counted.
Yes, you are mentally challenged
Delusional af like the average sandnigger on Jow Forums
Something you may include as interesting, Turks are more sandniggerish than even Cretans and Sicilians, the darkest and most exotic Southern Europeans
You don’t become Europe by murdering Europeans. Turks never understood that, so the fag conquering it declared himself Sultan of Rum, thinking that would make him Roman.
according to your pics turks are more genetically european than greeks. This says everything that needs to be said. Also we don't know if they separated kurds from turks in this study. Keep in mind that based kurds are not white but they are almost 30% of Turkey's population and rising lmao
europeans killed each other more than anyone in the world. so turks killing other euroepans is just another sign they are european
>also Austria
>claiming to be roman
kek. average turk is more roman than you
>you got those Tatar Muslims living in Crimea
We lived with them for 60 years (because Russia by force connected Crimea to us, lol).
>according to your pics turks are more genetically european than greeks
Where ?
Greeks are between Tuscans and Balkans in my pic
You are talking about Cypriots, not about Greeks
Does not matter. A hundred years ago, the Westerners said that Europe ends beyond the Rhine, and Asia begins. In a hundred years, Turkey will also be considered Europe.
Cypriots are greeks though
>europeans killed each other more than anyone in the world
Sad, but true
Actually I am a descendant of a byzantine refugee.
They are not
They are Greek speaking Levantines
Greeks are Greek people from the mainland and the islands
Cypriots are as Hellenic as Moroccans being Arabic desu
As I stated, Sicilians and Cretans are the most ''exotic'' Europeans and still largely more European than Turks
Based and Romanpilled.