Tell me about Wallonia, why are they so hated?

No, no they're not french. They have this retardo accent when they speak french, at least so I was told.

Butthurt walloon, even the flemish seeing that you are trash, let us annex you again.

Why do they want to break up with Wallonia?

No it means they're all manlets. I have yet to see one Walloon that is taller than 5'11''
Basically, they're dwarves and all ugly inbred fuckers. I swear every time I go to wallonia, I haven't seen anything that is above a 5/10 girl.

I'm 6ft, my brother is 6'3 and my cousin is 6'5

At 6ft I'm the shortest male member of my extended family. You are full of shit, cheesehead

this wallonia is very isolated, this is the railroad that connects it to the rest of yurop google.fr/maps/@50.1699307,4.8234945,3a,75y,152.99h,76.72t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sUt3xnD1ZFkqaksNFj3_nNw!2e0!6s//geo2.ggpht.com/cbk?panoid=Ut3xnD1ZFkqaksNFj3_nNw&output=thumbnail&cb_client=maps_sv.tactile.gps&thumb=2&w=203&h=100&yaw=275.83936&pitch=0&thumbfov=100

where you from then? brussels?
That shit doesn't count bro

google.fr/maps/@50.170047,4.8236509,3a,75y,207.59h,90.86t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1ssL0CqNnrGROv1vNEGGSf4Q!2e0!5s20090301T000000!7i13312!8i6656 better view

Because Wallonia, which was the second industrial power in Europe after England, lost its industries in the 70's, the economic center of Belgium drifted north to the port of Antwerp where American invested a lot (petro chemical etc...).
Flanders doesn't want to pay for post industrial decay. Investment stopped in Wallonia.
There was a federalization in Belgium (split political system) and unfortunately it created a socialist "echo chamber" in Wallonia where the Socialist party is all powerful and cucked the people.
Well, Flanders has nothing much to lose with a split, except Brussels; so it's a seductive approach for them. It's just that they act extremely arrogant about it.

Nothing wrong with this

Attached: 1566416205602.jpg (351x313, 74K)

I'm from Liège. While Walloons are shorter than the Dutch, we are average in Europe and much taller than the French.

Here's a quote from an user on /tv/ about this subject(made this thread there by mistake)

"Because they can only afford to be as leftist as they are thanks to Flemish money.
Each and every Flemish taxpayer pays about 1k Euros to Wallonia.

This wouldn't be such a problem if Wallonia didn't have its own government and thwarted the Flemish in the federal government."

Thoughts on this comment?

What do you mean?

I've heard projects about linking Wallonia with Dunkerque via canals and stuffs.

Well, yes that's true that Walloon politicians are horrible. The "taxpayer" thing is repeated ad nauseum in Flanders. Actually the economic axis in Belgium is north-south (Antwerp-Brussels-Namur) and they pay for the rest.
I'm for a controlled demolition of the political system in Belgium, though.

Reminder that Walloons have two governments: one for Wallonia itself, and one for the "French-speaking community".

Because there is too much flemings on english speaking forums, reality is that there's barely any difference between a fleming and a walloon

You tell me.

Attached: frenchlaughs.gif (500x432, 2M)

>they refuse to learn dutch (french is a mandatory for the flemish, but not the other way)
Based, Fuck Fl*mish & Fuck D*tchs people. Belgium is French

hahaha, seriously wtf?

For some reason, Frog-relatives are even worse than Frogs

Quebecois, Walloons, Acadians, even Cajuns: they all suck

Its the french norf but worse

>Québécois
Bvlls
>Walloons
BBC(big belgian cock) Bvlls

it's much better than french norf
Wallonia is lush green valleys with comfy villages, only Hainaut is like french norf, flat with run down red brick houses

Even the Hainaut has a confy countryside tb.h

Funny how the same shit-talkers "forget" that 80 years ago, the financial situation was reversed. You never hear them complaining that money was flowing to Flanders then.

Poor Wallonia. They are like Mississippi of Belgium.

Attached: Belgian provinces by GDP per capita.png (960x807, 163K)

I live in the richest part and I would move to wallonia any fucking day if given the chance

Is Brussels considered a part of Wallonia or Flanders?

No, it's hell on earth, hope we get nuked asap

btw I wouldn't mind if Trump bought Wallonia.

no one would drop a coin on flanders, it's basically concrete and toxic rivers with roundup

Trump could buy Charleroi, carpet bomb it and turn it into some kind of Las Vegas, that'd be fine

>80 years ago
Who cares

Because they are French and all French deserve to be hated?

well who cares that some region is richer than another one, it's not as it's a rare occurence

Because we are BASED

Brussels is better then amsterdam don't cry

imagine not being Walloon lmao

>waaaaaaaaah the N-VA keeping us down waaaaaaaah
Wallonia has been a shithole decades before the N-VA even existed.

Belgians are retarded but at least flemish have the decency to pretend to be smart

If you're talking about the so called transfers from Wallonia to Flanders, that has been proven to be a complete myth.

the belgians are dumb meme is getting kind of old now, especially when we sscore higher in literally every field compared to France

you're retarded

>i'm belgian and my opinion is [inferiority complex]

you are the ukraine of western europe

Dumb nigger

I don't know man, at least you guys have confy canals and boats :(

no it wasn't "proven". You flemish are absolutely predictable, you always repeat the same shit like robots.

See I'm sure right now you can't wait to post your Juul Hannes copypasta that was debunked many times but you Flemish don't even bother reading counter arguments because you are too content feeding your propaganda of "muh eternally cucked Flanders for 2000 years and muh 6 millions flemish soldiers in 1302"

>you are the ukraine of western europe
That would make you the Soviet Union of western europe and it all makes sense DESU

this thread is the living proof a belgian general would never work, much like our country, it's dysfunctional and artificial
i'm ready for the divorce already but would never allow flanders to take my city Brussels, I much rather be with our walloon brethrens down south

It's mostly foreigners fueling the so-called hatred we have for one another, but it really doesnt feel like it IRL

Not what I hear flemings say in my city
La plupart des séparatistes sont flamands de souche, regarde les manifs à Bxl, pas un seul étranger pêh, et franchement ce que j'entends et lis c'est vraiment dégueulasse

Ouais, y'en a toujours une poignée qui fait beaucoup de bruit. Mais au final, tout le monde s'en fout.

I love Wallonia, and Belgium in its entirety for that matter
youtube.com/watch?v=DLykReboJD0&t=

Attached: Belgie.png (1082x677, 1.38M)

ça fait des mois qu'on a pas de gouvernement, on perd des millions d'euros chaque jour à cause de ça, et j'ai jamais vu autant de polémiques et d'idées séparatistes circulées, c'est juste chiant et si on doit se séparer pour être tranquils autant le faire

As you can see in pic, by mid 1950s, Flanders was leeching money from Brussels.

Attached: unamur.be-eco-economie-cerpe.png (1151x695, 56K)

So can you give me some citations that prove there were indeed massive transfers from Wallonia to Flanders?

Flemings and walloons blanda up, then the second zinneke generation could live in peace tb.h

It's not about "transfers", it's about investment. When Hannes says that "not one franc went from wallonia to flanders" he is talking about social security which is anachronistic, since it only existed after the war.
That's like saying the Flemish were oppressed because there was no smartphones.
A lot of Walloon entrepreneurs invested in Flanders. For example the whole railroad system (which literally unified Flanders) was created by George Nagelmakers from Liège.
Hannes is projecting his own Flemish nationalism, believing that "walloons were scheming to favor Wallonia" when the notion of "Wallonia" didn't even exist.

>b-but 80 years ago, we were all hard-workers!

I heard the same thing from ter*oni

Attached: 1376622682272.jpg (487x515, 29K)

see

I've googled him and apparently he was a hardcore economic liberal, i doubt his ideas would have been clouded by nationalism. Use google translator.
ugentmemorie.be/nieuws/historicus-juul-hannes-overleden
You don't get a phd by spouting easily debunked nationalistic bs.

>For example the whole railroad system (which literally unified Flanders) was created by George Nagelmakers from Liège.
So it was easier for Flemish workers to travel to Wallonia, thank you.

>Although no longer relevant in the current economic context, the discussion is often exacerbated by the historic fact that even in the 19th century, when Flanders was much the poorer region, there was a net transfer from Flanders to Wallonia; this was mainly because of relatively heavier taxation of agriculture than of industrial activity.[27] The tax system was never adjusted to reflect the industrial affluence of Wallonia, which led to an imbalance in tax revenue placing Flanders (average for 1832–1912 period: 44% of the population, 44% of total taxes) at a disadvantage compared with Wallonia (38% of population, 30% of taxes).[28]
Can you shine some light on this?

>this graph from 1950 onwards debunks his research that focused on the period 1832-1912
bruh

Bump for sex, this country needs it more than ever before

based, without Walloniger we still would have the real Netherlands

Give us the whole Eifel region already, Malmédy and Eupen were not enough tb.h

It’s kind of based that Brussels used to be the Dutch capital but then all the Walloons moved there and made it a Francophone enclave in the middle of Flanders

Attached: B55E31F1-3076-449A-8E62-A767D215326E.png (600x580, 532K)

Akshually noble flemings moved there and adopted the french language because it was thought to be more noble and refined

we should offload these freeloaders into a bad bank style country

Attached: 1539004133777.png (1473x961, 3.07M)

>asks for citation
>gets citation
>doesn't like the truth
>moves the goal post

It is.

Nah, we take Luxemburg, the whole Eifel, french flanders and Ardennes, the dutch brabant
Imagine so much beauty in one country

The french language, not french people, nuance there nasty amphibian

I'd love to form a country with those people, while Germany resorts back to its natural borders (picture)

Attached: NWWIIM_Map_Program_Inline_1920x1400_r1.jpg (960x700, 62K)

This is the most taboo subject for the rabid flemings. They hate being reminded that their own elites made Brussels french speaking.

that's, like, not what happened.

The people who moved en masse in Brussels during the 19th and 20th century were overwhelmingly from West Flanders. They gladly switched to the French language because no one understood them.

It's well-known here and even dutch people agreed that flemish has a noticeable amount of french loan-words and influence in it, vice versa is also true btw
Personally I think the whole shtick about the regional tensions could be narrowed down to money, cultural/linguistic differences don't matter

>See I'm sure right now you can't wait to post your Juul Hannes copypasta that was debunked many times
lib.ugent.be/nl/catalog/rug01:001226995
>De mythe van de omgekeerde transfers : fiscale prestaties van Vlaanderen, Wallonië en Brabant 1832-1912
Yes, an unsourced graph with no context that supposedly show transfers from Brussels to both Flanders and Wallonia in the 50's-60's doesn't debunk this at all.

In 1880 57% of Brussels was Dutch speaking so you’re quite wrong

can confirm
t. wallonian diaspora

Basés cousins.

Wallonia is based

For the record, Burger, the west Flemish didn't speak Dutch but "West vlaams" which was unintelligible for a standard Dutch speaker (which was a rarity back then in Belgium, no one spoke "standard"), so the West Flemish had to speak French to be understood by the Brabanters from Brussels.

Since the beginning, Belgium's official language was french in opposition to the protestant dutch speaking Netherlanders and that the flemish bourgeoisie was for the most part francophone, flemish was only recognized as an official second language in 1898

But few people in Brussels spoke French throughout most of the 19th and especially the 18th century, which is what you originally claimed. Consider reading a book before speaking about matters which you haven’t really been educated in

west flemish is a real cutie of a language tho

Not that user, user.
>unamur.be/eco/economie/cerpe/cahiers/cahiers/cahier11
>p83: D’autre part, au xixe siècle, les contributions relatives à l’impôt ont été très semblables pour la Flandre et pour la Wallonie, excluant, semble-t-il, un mouvement financier net entre les régions. Ces résultats nuancent considérablement les conclusions des travaux de J. Hannes, conclusions pourtant largement admises au Nord du pays.
>Roughly in english: by the 19th century, tax contributions were similar in Flanders and Wallonia, excluding a net financial transfer between the two regions. These results moderate considerably the conclusions of J. Hannes, which are widely accepted in Flanders.

BTW, 19th century is not 80 years ago.

>
But few people in Brussels spoke French throughout most of the 19th and especially the 18th century, which is what you originally claimed. Consider reading a book before speaking about matters which you haven’t really been educated in
lol
strawman argument then passive agressive statement

I misquoted above lol, anyway

>But few people in Brussels spoke French throughout most of the 19th and especially the 18th century, which is what you originally claimed. Consider reading a book before speaking about matters which you haven’t really been educated in

Nothing I said is remotely arguable, bud. West flemish were the ones that migrated en masse in Brussels, and they couldn't be understood so they turned to French. Deal with it.

My French is shit and google translate isn't that great but the conclusion is that contrary to Hannes claims that there was a net transfer from Flanders to Wallonia, in reality the contributions were roughly equal and therefore there cound't have been a net transfer either way?

found a flemish pearl to make you more cultured
youtu.be/7uJZgg_tAdE

It's true though. Here in Northern France event though the natives were opposed to it, we were forced by big companies for purposes of bringing in cheap labor to accept a quite signifiant number of poor Flemish immigrants

there were "anti Belgian" riots back in the days in northern France. Anti-flemish of course, since Walloon immigration to France was almost inexistent.