Honestly, if you could leave the U.S. for Canada/Australia Would you do it?

I don't see why you would want to leave here unless you have a chronic medical condition or something. It's just too comfy living here

immersion does help you learn a language faster

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It's very comfy, but there are certain autistic things I want that the states can't offer.

>Canada
fuck no
>Australia
maybe but only for the climate

U S A

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I really do want someone to love though. I don't want to go through a divorce.

Yeah.
I would move to Australia or New Zealand, desu.

The social situation in the first years must be miserable tho.

I'm not going to move somewhere that has a government that fundamentally disagrees with an individual's right to defend themselves with a firearm

like what?

is divorce bad in NZ? it's like half off all marriages here, and if you're a man with kids you get completely fucked

Yeah I've had similar views
You're asking for a miracle in this day and age. Only way to go through that avenue is to unironically take a girl's virginity.

Weird electronic music festivals. A very degenerate thing and autistic form of entertainment, but they're very common outside of North America.

its more like the first couple months, just take some language classes there and try to make friends in bars or at work when you find one.

Madagascar sounds better retard.

more power to you user

I would move to new zealand if I could

It's a pretty bleak picture, but I think we generally have fewer people screwed over custody than you do.

However in New Zealand if you are in a relationship exceeding 3 years, then it's considered a "de facto relationship" which gives the equivalent rights as a marriage or civil union. It's one of the reasons why so few people are bothering getting married now.

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It keeps me wage slaving.
If I went that route, then I'd spend at least a couple years in the states to learn the language as well as I can.

Can confirm they're very popular here but they're full of insufferable hippy cunts

Come think about it, I think I would like to move to Bulgaria.

That's expected, but the music is worth it.
Heard a couple good festivals in Aus:
Pitch Music, Subaonic, Babylon

The U.S. is so far behind

PROS TO NEW ZEALAND
> Nature. You're never far from a good beach or hiking area
> Rule of Law/Ease of Doing Business
> Mostly friendly people (at least superficially)
> First world infrastructure + decent internet
> Good quality food, alcohol and agricultural products

CONS TO NEW ZEALAND
> Far away from Everything
> Most expensive prices for EVERYTHING in the developed world
> Ridiculous house prices
> Nanny State Laws
> Decline in social values
> Boring cities that are no different to second rate Australian or American ones.
> Obsessed with how foreigners perceive us
> No real identity since the fall of the British Empire
> Government placating to Maoris on every single issue

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Yeah Aus just seems way better in terms of entertainment

the only thing most americans know about new zealand is flight of the conchords and that the lord of the rings movies were filmed there.

It is desu. The only pros we have really are:
> Better internet
> Scenery
> Better educated on average
> Fewer Muslims
> Non intolerable summers
> Interior being habitable instead of a giant desert

I don't blame you. We have a similar sized population to Louisiana, and Kiwis don't know anything other than Jazz and Hurricanes there.

>Canada
No
>Australia
No, but only because is hot as fuck
I want to move somewhere like italy or austria t.b.h, but my salary would be much less and moving to a foreign country with a different language would be tedious so maybe i wont try it until im old and rich

>old and rich
I'd go to a Balkan city and set up my own hedonist retirement compound personally