Where would you live?

I would do UK.

20% before or after tax? either way i would do something like unless you really want to live in a city or dont want to drive. Personally I would pick southern germany, italy, or austria

20% before tax not net it could be closer to 30% with tax rates

but NL does do the 30% rule which offsets a ton and puts the net closer to parity

I loved the UK when I visited!

My only concern with the UK is the office is in London and getting paid in GBP when Brexit is hitting might be hard

are you looking to live in europe for a short while for the fun of it or are you seeking a permanent move?

GER, better quality of life and won’t be badly affected by the UK leaving the EU

2-3 years if I did it then see if I wanted to make it perm

>leaving the EU
Do you really

I could do Japan if I wanted! I'm not that wealthy but my family is so I could get the money at least temp for the wealthy visitor visa that lasts a year

I've thought about it since I enjoyed my visits there but I couldn't see enjoying it past a few months desu. Japan seems really isolating esp for a foreigner

Countryside town are extremely boring more often then not
But yeah you could work remotely in idk Prague or something and live like a king

Are you fluent in Dutch or German?
English fluency is high in both of those countries, but I'd reckon speaking English all the time will only open you up to the expat crowd.
It would be a lonely time.

Isn't Prague over run with tourists? To the point it isn't fun? or is that just the historical center?

>US citizen
enjoy paying tax

If you want some place fun you will have tourists there.

i'd go NL

Every major city in Europe is like that desu
Do you speak other languages?

>be american
>go abroad
>get taxed twice

OH NO NO NO NONO

Just English.. I'm open to learning some new languages but I doubt it would better than survival any time soon

I do have a cousin that lives in AMS in the Netherlands he likes it and says Dutch isn't THAT hard to learn

This. OP don't underestimate the importance of fluency in the native tongue. It'll be tough getting to know people outside work if you can't follow the conversation.

If you enjoy your occasional weed joint, the Netherlands is your country of choice.

have you considered that you will be taxed twice?

>better than survival
Yeah I'd recommend the U.K. The language barrier, at least in my case, takes a few years to completely hurdle. That's with classes/devoted time outside of work.

If you're not completely sure on moving to a country that speaks another language, choose the U.K. and make frequent visits around Europe to check if you prefer a different country.

I'd go either Ireland or the Netherlands
My advice is to choose a place, settle there for a month or so and then get an interrail and travel around the EU for a bit to find a place you like

how tall are you? over 6 foot?

He will not. He will only have to pay the difference between his US taxes and his local taxes. Since local taxes in Europe will probably be higher he will have nothing to pay.

Could be a problem to go there as a EU citizen before Brexit. If the UK is really about to crash out without a deal he may end up in all kinds of bothersome situations

if he's irish he will have 0 problems.
brits and ireland have freedom of movement predating the EU.

Just go to Ireland. It's an English speaking country but you don't have to worry about Brexit.

it comes and bites you on annoying things like capital gains where countries have allowances the US might not.

Oh right that's true
Still, I would avoid possible problems

Depends on whether U.K. has a labor shortage of OP's occupation.

Germany would be the smart choice in that regard considering decent pay/work-life/access to eastern/western europe.

I heard Germans especially don't like it when an American comes in and can barely speak German.

It is only after the first $100k you make though (may have to do some loop hole to activate that idk) which would be a pretty high wage in europe

>Depends on whether U.K. has a labor shortage of OP's occupation.
I was more worried about his status not getting recognized or something. But Irish people should've fewer problems with that unless the NI border issue really turns into a shitshow

hes right I've talked to a couple of Americans in the other offices and they might have to FILE in the US but they don't have to pay double taxes

Any chance a No Deal would affect Irish movement? I know they've passed some protections for the Common Travel Area but would a hard leave hurt that?

>Any chance a No Deal would affect Irish movement? I know they've passed some protections for the Common Travel Area but would a hard leave hurt that?
Nobody really knows. But in theory a No Deal would end the CTA otherwise I don't see a point in Brexiting at all if you're going to keep an open border with the EU

torino

>Any chance a No Deal would affect Irish movement?
no
>Nobody really knows. But in theory a No Deal would end the CTA
no it wouldn't.

there will still be freedom of movement but you will need to pay customs on goods and show your passport to a border official at some stage (as opposed to now where there is no border).

Also, are you 6 ft. tall?

Dating in GER/NL might be tough if you're like shorter than 5'10.

>there will still be freedom of movement but you will need to pay customs on goods and show your passport to a border official at some stage
That would probably end the freedom of movement then desu. Imagine the lines at the border

6ft 3 I'd be okay there I've also found NL/German girls really friendly and fun at least visiting

>That would probably end the freedom of movement then desu
no they wouldn't. both UK and ROI have special arrangements from decades ago. under UK law irish citizens are pretty much 100% british citizens.
under irish law, british citizens are like pseudo-irish and can do most things.

helps with the peace-process but is also a hangover from the fact that ireland was a dominion of the UK when it became independent.

Yeah but practically you would have to basically close the border if you want to check people and cargo
Closed as in compared to a completely open border like in Schengen

foreign earned income exclusion

enjoy single citizenship

yes it will be a bit slower but don't forget the landborder is not the only way into ireland.

in fact im thinking of moving to ireland psot brexit to regain EU citizenship. so that my descendants dont have to live with the stupid choice of the boomers.

I feel like you'd have a big disadvantage in general, under average height is just the icing on the cake. It would be like how the dating scene is for some asian immigrants here

i have another passport. the US is just an outstandingly bad passport to hold.

Are salaries similar in Ireland to the U.K?
I know corporations used Ireland as a sort of tax haven.

>access to the two parts of the western world is bad
top kek

You're probably mixed ethnically so you can only cut it in the new world realistically. You can't cut it in Europe unless you're of one ethnicity in its respective country. If you're 100% Irish you could try here but it's unlikely that you are. You're better off staying in the US. As well as that, you wouldn't take on the hassle of adjusting to a new culture, establishing a new social circle, moving, etc.

probably higher. but obviously far fewer opportunities. dublin is more expensive than london, but far less interesting than london.

Yeah I feel like being 5'8 in Western Europe
must feel like being 5'5 in Anglo countries..

Gonna need some serious game to overcome that handicap.

>yes it will be a bit slower but don't forget the landborder is not the only way into ireland.
user checking ships is going to be even worse, you have to dedicate entire harbors just to check them
>in fact im thinking of moving to ireland psot brexit to regain EU citizenship. so that my descendants dont have to live with the stupid choice of the boomers.
Just claim a >my ancestry :) and get the passport

>You can't cut it in Europe unless you're of one ethnicity in its respective country.
top kek imagine believing this

Europe, definitely.

Not just that but it seems really hard to intermingle with the natives and find someone who would be interested. There's no allure to the accent or foreign background like there is vice versa.

>having to pay taxes to two governments is good

cringe. US shitizenship is the worse to have if you want to live abroad. it will come back to bite you when you try to sell your house and suddenly the IRS start demadning money.

Euros get so defensive because of how much attention you get as a rich immigrant :)

>can't even google the FEIE
brainlet inselaffe

enjoy being the 51st state and having your NHS dismantled for US profit :)

>>my ancestry
don't have any irish ancestry so i have to waste 5 years of my life living there. luckily i can still do that or at least have my kids born in belfast so they can be born unbeholdened to the idiocy of this island.

Yeah a suave South American manlet might garner more interest for those Euros with a shorty festish.

> If you're 100% Irish

My Mom and Dad left Ireland for the States 3 years before I was born for my Dad's job I really don't know much about the country besides the family from Sligo / Galway I've met at family reunions

I guess ethnically but I don't know much about the country desu I did enjoy visiting though esp in the summer

>Retires outside the US
>btw you have to pay tax on your pension back to america

Of course you can function here but most people will never fully accept you and some may even hate you, consciously or subconsciously. Different ethnicities were never meant to mix

when you retire you renounce brainlet

>cousin in AMS
Having a family connection would make the transition much easier if you're choosing between GER/NL.

European women are taller but way less height conscious than american women. I've seen far more couples the same height or even where the man is shorter than in the USA.

>both his parents are irish
>still get hated
What a backwards shithole, they were right to leave

micks arent people

>renounicng citizenship
great citizenship you're holding there mate.

also
>. For tax year 2018 (filing in 2019) the exclusion amount is $103,900

>sells a house for 300k and suddenly has to pay additional tax on it for 0 reason.
haha dog bless america

What about with regards to race/ethnicity?

>will never stop seething about the fact he was destroyed by his former colony
oh no no no no

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No, if he's fully Irish then he will be fine here. I posted that with the assumption that he wasn't. That itself was a reasonable assumption just looking at demographics - Americans are simply more likely to be mixed than not to be. Anyway, I'm posting in general about immigrants more than I am about OP's particular case. Europeans shouldn't be mixing but they still are because of the EU. I was just bringing attention to how it's wrong

my hesitation there is I've hear the NL is an esp hard country for expats to integrate into

Not sure desu, I'm white and everyone assumes I am either Nordic or German. I don't see many white/brown or white/black couples though

i would be fully supportive of holding american citizenship if it didnt have this stupid tax requirement.

you have to admit its pretty cringe.

tax requirement doesn't impact 99% of people thanks to the FEIE or FTC

>but what if you're a literal boomer selling a house or on pension
wew nice reaching

meanwhile tons of people around the world, including euros who want to make $$$$, are desperate to get green cards

cope on mate

>esp hard country for expats

Yeah it's gonna be much harder integrating in a non-anglo country man. If you don't want to go through a ton of effort to do it, choose the U.K. without a question and party in NL/GER during time off.

>99% of people
its ok if you're earning a salary under the threshold which applies to most people

it absolutely bites you in the arse when you're settling down at the age of 30 and you're flipping your first house to get something more family oriented.
it also bites you in the arse when you've decided to earn your entire life away in another a country and saved a nice pension pot and then suddenly uncle sam starts swiping from it.

i agree its great to be able to go to america and to work there. but it does suck adding additional bureaucracy and tax into your life no matter what you say. that's unfortuantely what your government imposes.

you're better off with like EU + australians or canadian these days. that way you can get both new world and EU without the one bearing on the other.

who the fuck has a house at 30

also there are no good jobs in commonwealth cunts

>what is the property ladder

anyway you acknowledge it sucks you're basically just not allowing me to take the argument, so i'll let you keep your cope.

lmao that's right people on your dismal island are obsessed with property

you really do just take after Americans

Brexit isn't happening

Yes it is

Berlin has lot of expats because of big software industry and I heard you can get around with English

>fucks over pensions
>fucks over property
>potentially fucks over capital gains
these are major pillars of ones life, why would you want to make them more difficult?

Probably Berlin is a shithole lmao

Heard it's a fun shithole tho

They won't impact me for 30 years and Europe could fall apart during this time or I may want to retire in the states

I have more backup options than you and financially I am not impacted

>more back up options
you don't know what my citizenship situation is.
all i'm saying is that US dual citizenship has some pretty unique and big drawbacks - to the extent that even if you suggested renunciation.

There is no combination of citizenship better than US + EU, or US+EU permenant residency

Your combination is therefore inferior and is probably just irish+UK or maybe UK+India or something

*pays double taxes on selling a house or on pension*
^ this alone makes it shit tier. the american government litearlly cucks you out of retiring and settling down into the right house.