Bullish

Attached: found-you.png (823x1080, 151K)

based and redpilled

This, unironically. Ether was hugely overvalued. This gives some nice breathing room for devs to get shit done without it so horribly expensive to send a transaction.

still in 2nd place after BTC !!!!!!
patience is the name of this game!!!!!

>the Flippening

Yeah, when BTC = 5000 sats and ETH = 5001 in EOY 2020

>BTC 5000 sats
You know what, just forget about it...

i want to go short too but dont know of a good vpn to use for bitmex

Kek

Down the hall and to the left fucking shitcoiners.

why would you short at $170?

btc too was $170 from $1400 back in 2014...

weird how it repeats

well i still think btc i going to 4k. If btc is still droping then eth is def dropping more

>flippening EOY 2020
Timeline of expected "flippenings"

May 2017: the Ripple flippening
June 2017: the Ethereum flippening
August 2017: the Bitcoin Cash flippening
November 2017: the Bitcoin Cash flippening
January 2018: the Ripple flippening
February 2018: the Ethereum flippening

Total actual flippenings: 0
I don’t disagree this is a great time to buy but the End result: Bitcoin is still and always will be the king. Best be buying link.

Vitalitk does not think it will hit 1k again guaranteed

Bottom will be 100 homie

even better

im thinking 70.00

This. Dont expect anything till at least 2020

the only one of those that even came close was Ethereum. What do you even mean by something like
>November 2017: the Bitcoin Cash flippening
it was 52% vs 11% ffs. Ethereum is the only one worthy of the mantle and will finish the job in 2020.

>>he doesn't understand that Vitalik is dumping it so as many people as possible could buy the 32 ETH required to stake to ensure that Ethereum stays decentralized after going PoS
Then why not lower 32 ETH to 16 or 8?

because then there would be too many nodes

supply is ~100mil
he's deemed 32 a good ratio of that

he cant just double the number of nodes
but he CAN lowkey make the 32 eth more decentralized/distributed by making it cheaper

Anyone who isn't cost averaging in on 32 eth is literally retarded

>thinks im wasting more than 3000 dollars to buy 32 shitcoins when supply has gone from 71 mil to 101 mil in only 3 years (40% increase in 3 years LMAO)

Nah thanks mate. I dont like to waste 3k on something that the miners (which is a monopoly scam) take days to get. You can buy them all

The staking requirement is 32 so that there can only be 3m nodes at max capacity. Why cap the number of nodes? Latency. If Ethereum took over the globe and everyone could validate you would have a massive problem spreading info over the network.

If you want an example go look at avalanche gossip protocols issue with slowing down as too many nodes join.

Chances are they won't let there be more then 2k-5k different shards or they won't be able to communicate with each other efficiently.

Look at bitcoins early emissions you fucking ingrate. inflation is lower then bitcoin now with the PoW change.

he doesn't know about the Bitcoin Cash pump to 0.5 BTC
it was very close that night

the real flippening will be when 0xBTC flips ether :^)

What? The highest BCH went in November was 0.24 BTC according to CMC.

errrrr i think you misread the article

he said "no more 1000x crypto gains"

not "eth will never be $1000"

how much will people make from staking? there will be so many nodes..

think the estimation is 5-10% ROI a year

idea is secure network + locked up eth will bolster price too obviously

>He thinks people are going to store their wealth in an inflationary shitcoin.
>He thinks a token with monetary policy so unclear we still don't know what inflation rates will look like in 2 years will have any chance at competing with scarce, hard capped currencies.

Just buy 0xBitcoin already and avoid this bullshit. It WILL be the currency asset on Ethereum.

who cares what he thinks he's a programmer, not an investor

>he invests his money in a man who would purposely crash the market and destroy the lives of innumerable of his own supporters in order to further his personal agenda

Attached: amistupid2.jpg (413x427, 43K)

Went up 4500x
It won't go up another 1000x
Fucking genius this money skeleton

>Ethereum developers are so stupid
>Buy this ERC20
You realize that if 0xbtc becomes more profitable to mine than eth then you will reduce the security of your own network?
Why the hell would you FUD eth

Jow Forums was live then
Bcash shills gave us a real good head start
Though some retards still held through the entire PnD.
2 months salary overnight
Good ol times, yep
*sip*

I do have some as a hedge just in case it becomes prominent on the network, but I won't risk more than 15% of my portfolio on something so uncertain.

The only other option would've been to keep the price high, inevitably leading to centralization when PoS hits. I wouldn't call foresight a "personal agenda". It's a short-term loss, all true believers shall be rewarded in the coming years.

lets be honest they wouldn't stick around, they're gonna sell moment their bags reach roi

it's a p&d with no purpose (unlike eth)

Who the hell do you think is buying all this Ethereum? It will be whales one way or another. There's no possible way to avoid this in a free market system.

The situation is actually reverse - who do you think has been selling all this Ethereum? Do you really think some random normies had so much Ethereum that they could crash the price like this? Of course there'll still be whales, but the barrier of entry is a lot smaller for average people now.

ICO's are selling retard.

> If you don't Trust in Him and watch 95% of your wealth evaporate in front of your eyes, you're not a true believer
You faggots are like a cult, and your cult leader openly hates and mocks you.

It's not like I'm holding ETH through this purge like a retard, it was predicted quite a while ago that its price would temporarily sink. My intended buy back is at around $90, but if it shows too heavy support at $120, then I'll just settle for that.

>so as many people as possible could buy the 32 ETH required to stake to ensure that Ethereum stays decentralized after going PoS

Well if decentralization is your goal why have the 32 limit at all? That's still quite a lot of money even at these levels.

Fuck this sounds like Elon....

guys I'm starting to feel fucking greedy! ETH is such a bargain right now. I haven't bought yet, but I can barely contain myself from pulling the trigger

because there needs to be a limit on total nodes

(3million-ish)

latency problems

BTC going to 5000 sats? Wew, at least 1 DOGE will ever stay 1 DOGE.

Icos arent selling, most hold 75% of their raised eth

Give me a high five, amazing profits from this short. I still belive in ETH, it's amazing tech and I can't wait to take the profits from my short and put them into a long again at ~130 - 140 somewhere not sure

Already bought in bro, maybe I'm too early but fuck it, never know when you hit rock bottom.

What is leverage? I am up 13% since yesterday wtf are you talking about this going to 0 would inironically make me a billionaire (won't happen)

I sold 32 ETH yesterday morning and ended up finding back in the evening, couldn't handle not having at least a node's worth.

Also, this money I have is really a lot for a wagecuck, but it's not life changing. The moon or bust, baby.

Why wouldn't you just sell and buy back once it finds a bottom? it makes no sense to hold your money in Ethereum out of all the coins that are currently out performing it long-term, including tether.

Attached: eosethchart.png (1513x675, 81K)

> Why wouldn't you generate a tax event to be a pussy?
Nah I'm good.

When did I say Ethereum devs are stupid? Ethereum is an amazing platform. I just said Ether (the token) is not valuable. Ethereum devs have literally said this.

And Ethereum is going PoS just fyi, so your second point is moot.

Only a retard would put a significant portion of their savings into a single crypto, obviously.

Attached: Vlad Zamfir ERC20 tweet.png (597x173, 18K)

>avoid taxes
>lose 95% of your portfolio in the process
smart

if you think eth is never going to recover you're a special type of retard

>2020 btc is 50k, eth has PoS
hur dur marketcap will be less than 1bil

If PoS turns out to be a success, what use does a PoW token have?

95% from this price after being oversold like fuck?
Sounds reasonable.

Meh I have 100$ in crypto cause im not serious about it, decided to put it all in on this to see if i can make a quick few bucks.

ETH is never going to recover. Its price decline is based on fundamentals this time. It is deprecated technology that will not be able to scale. It is already being outperformed in every respect, and even if it does catch up in the next few years it will be too late. Smart money has already realized this and exited.

With that said, even if you do think it will recover, it's still retarded to "avoid taxes" at the expense of 5Xing your stack.

He's barely a programmer to be honest. He thought he could pitch a project to virtualize a quantum computer inside classical computers and it would solve P=NP

Sharing, plasma, pos, futures
Being retard must be tough

still have to be a fucking retard not to buy 32 ETH+ though even if it does go to zero. have you not studied nash equilibrium game theory

If Ethereum goes PoS and it is a success, then a PoW token will be all the more valuable because Ether will have a guaranteed and infinite inflation rate of 5-10% a year. 0xBitcoin would become the primary store of value token on Ethereum since it is deflationary, yet is usable in smart contracts just as ETH.

Furthermore, 2nd layer relayer systems like the ones Vitalik alluded to (pic related) allow for the relatively easy payment of gas in an ERC20 token through a relayer. This is already being developed as Lava Network, by the same dev who deployed the 0xBitcoin contract.

The reality is that Ether is not necessary to use most of the functionality of Ethereum, and 0xBitcoin is a significantly better currency since it is deflationary like Bitcoin and has a hard cap.

Attached: Vitalik wrapper solutions.png (858x82, 11K)

I've only studied falling knives theory, sorry.

what futures?

and link will connect between them all, of course, I get it!

what if he increases the required amount as the value of ETH has dropped and now more people will be able to stake

I don't know if ETH will recover, but I do know that the time to make money is times like this. When risk increases significantly and things feel hopless, that's when you make your money. You don't make money buying into giant green dildos. Most people here know this intellectually, but they don't truly understand it or internalize it.

This is only true if the fundamentals are solid. The fundamentals are not solid my Ethereum. How many people got rich off Nano after the Bitgrail hack? How many got rich after BitConnect collapsed?

>This is only true if the fundamentals are solid. The fundamentals are not solid my Ethereum
it's widely used, responsible for many millions in dapp economy alone, which is saying something

What I mean is that even though the price of the "coin" itself has cratered, dapps have done and continue to do a lot of volume, which is meaningful

Not saying you're wrong, i agree with you, just suggesting that it's far more than Nano and BitConnect which were always shit.

>it's widely used
No it's not. It's been out for 3 years and has like 5,000 daily users for all of its dapps combined. Even EOS has more than that.

> Even EOS has more than that
oh I see what I'm dealing with now, kek
fucking retard

It's true though. Prove me wrong.

Attached: eosethereumdappcomparison.png (1358x1000, 214K)

sigh
it's just so easy to shoot these fire and forget meme posts and takes real effort to refute them, you don't care about engaging in good-faith discourse and would rather shitpost, i've seen yyou repost this many times and you've gotten a number of valid responses and yet you ignore them and continue on as though nothing as changed, because you are either a retard or a kike

makes no difference to me

You can't deny that what I said is true. Ethereum has pathetic adoption and it doesn't scale. Its fundamentals are in the toilet. Its token economics are retarded, GAS is retarded, mining is retarded. When they fix all these problems then you can say the fundamentals don't warrant the price crash.

Here, bystanders, look:
warosu.org/biz/thread/11044195#p11045277
warosu.org/biz/thread/11034929#p11036741
warosu.org/biz/thread/11025244#p11027717
warosu.org/biz/thread/11025244#p11025736
warosu.org/biz/thread/11025244#p11026213

All valid responses to the same autistic, disingenuous faggot bag holder which he simply ignores

Those are just substanceless COPE responses.

k

Btw, to anyone who doesn't know, EOS is just a cluster. It is permissioned and token owners can revert their token transfers at any time among other things. The entire premise assumes that all dApps have a central authority, which is a joke. It's just one big "me too" gimmick. It does work and it's faster than Ethereum but so is literally just running a server using Python which is the logical conclusion of what EOS is. But this bagholding retard doesn't understand that
>inb4 ETH/EOS pair graphic that he always posts in response

You know what the funny thing is? Back when I was first getting into crypto last year and doing a ton of research, I seriously considered Ethereum, but the one thing that was holding me back was its scaling problems. I read about how they were "planning PoS", and how it kept getting delayed, and I said fuck that, it's never going to happen. I bought EOS instead. Now instead of being down 30% I'm up 3x. But sure, I'm the idiot.

maybe now isnt the time, who knows how lower we have to go, but ethereum has taken a dive even bitcoin hasn't yet.

this is the kind of period people were buying in during the end of 2014 to the end of 2015 for bitcoin. when it slumped back down to the lowest it's been, a period of inactivity when interest from speculators tapered off, when the tech didn't look like it was making any real breakthroughs.

eth is still in a unique position shared by no other alts. only bitcoin has more recognition, developer interest, and users. and if smart contracts are the real deal, ethereum is going to capitalize more than any other platform, by a large majority, just due to it's preexistence and inertia with developers and existing infrastructure.

its not necessarily going to make you rich like it did early adopters, but then again, nothing else really is this late into crypto's speculative phase.

But ether being inflationary or deflationary is a conscious choice, not a bug. If it would make sense for gas to be deflatory, why wouldn't ether do it itself?

>Now instead of being down 30% I'm up 3x
All you have is talk. price talk, exactly like I said. Well, guess what? People who purchased HOT in the time that you've been holding EOS are up probably 900% compared to you kek

But anyway back to reality, is true, listening to you sperg on about performance when the reality is that these products aren't at all similar at which point you finally resort to muh price when called on it is just tired, the music has stopped playing and you are a retard, full stop

Attached: Screen Shot 2018-09-12 at 4.01.04 PM.png (926x1142, 100K)

this

when btc dropped from $1400 to $150 in 2014, sure it looked bleak... but look where those buyers of the dip are now

i got eth at $200 afew days ago, cant wait to 10x

HOT wasn't around last year retard. Yeah, all I have is price. And adoption. And daily usage. And speed. And momentum. And bigger investments. You'v got cult-like delusion, I definitely can't compete with that.

it may not 10x, but you will see gains.

BTFO
how will this EOS fag ever recover?

Attached: 324234.jpg (258x245, 12K)

why are you even supporting EOS? fundamentally you want one thing: money
that's fine but in the long run BTC will crush it because it's a "me too" platform with nothing going for it
>speed
ok so run a server on a raspberry pi, it will literally scale better than EOS with its half-second block time

you have fundamental misconceptions about crypto and your platform of choice, which you are emotionally tied to

>i'm in it for the tech
>i don't even care about the price
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ETH BAG HOLDERS I LOVE YOU

Attached: trumplaughing.jpg (696x413, 27K)

yeah, he's too stupid to notice that he leaves a fingerprint with his autistic shitposting and this is easy to follow, he'll probably be here in the future posting the same shit and anons can easily call him on it. whoops, better go back to reddįt and make sock accounts.