>What language(s) are you learning? >Share language learning experiences! >Ask questions about your target language! >Help people who want to learn a new language! >Participate in translation challenges or make your own! >Make frens!
Read this shit, realize it doesn't help, ask the thread and get told to read the wiki!: 4chanint.fandom.com/wiki/The_Official_Jow Forums_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_Wiki
Check this pastebin for plenty of language resources as well as some nice image guides: pastebin.com/ACEmVqua (embed)
Torrents with more resources than you'll ever need for 30 plus languages: FAQ U: >How do I learn a language? What is the best way to learn one? How should I improve on certain aspects? Pirate a textbook and practice. For specifics, maybe ask in the thread and say what language you're learning. >Should I learn lang Y so I can learn lang X or acquire a QT GF? No >What is the most useful language? Scots >What language should I learn? Picard
Old thread No old challenge, someone please make one!
Started to learn French not so long ago. Failed to learn German tho :( it’s a cunt of a language
John Price
your language is miles more complex than german, how can you fail
Asher Gutierrez
Le français (heureusement) n'est pas une langue très difficile à apprendre.
Michael Thompson
Well I understood what you just wrote. But in part it’s thanks to my knowledge of English. Idk how this works desu Ukrainian?
Sebastian Cruz
Why? Swedish citizens speak English and Arabic.
Logan Long
Ebin
Nolan Bailey
yes ukrainian. pretty much all slavic languages have more intricate grammar than german, id assume youre already familiar with most tricky grammatical features what was difficult to you?
Idk mate, but German grammar is notorious for its difficulty. All those fucking tenses and forms of verbs. I was pretty good at reading tho. Teachers used to praise my pronunciation cuz honestly I am kinda good at mimicking the natives
Charles Miller
Hans is telling the truth, Slavic languages are harder than Germanic. Word stressing, declension, conjugation, paronyms...
Challenge! (The first I've made; tried to pick some good /lit/ for y'all. Let me know if you think the difficulty levels are inappropriate.)
Easy >You sleep rather soundly for a murderer. >Is the moon shining through your bowels, old fellow? >It is not down in any map; true places never are. >The Esperantists worked to create a community and a culture.
Medium >Is freedom inversely related to the efficiency of the available means of surveillance? >I say what it occurs to me to say when I think I hear people say things. >Even to this day the crude fact of persecution is enough to give an honorable name to the most empty sort of sectarianism. >It was not by making yourself heard but by staying sane that you carried on the human heritage.
Hard >Counterintelligence is the process---or constellation of activities, analysis, and decision-making---that a group engages in to prevent adversaries from acquiring accurate information about its actions, personnel, and plans. >What torturers do is turn to what is available, what is habitual, what they can get away with, what they have heard from others, what they remember, and what they can learn by imitating others. >Do you wish me a good morning, or mean that it is a good morning whether I want it or not; or that you feel good this morning; or that it is a morning to be good on? >The most intemperate allegations thrown about by malignant contemporaries are repeated by credulous posterity and consecrated among the uncontested memorials of history.
Lucas Parker
Most people know how to use grammar contextually in langs which they've been raised in but wouldn't know what it actually is. I assume you learnt English through playing games and the internet as a child so it's comes more naturally.
Henry Garcia
Tempted to do this is my initial learning language (German) but I need to relearn it through memelingo practice and memrise.
Jace Davis
sorta kinda , being familiar with a grammatical concept in your native language makes you able to reliably think the pattern through. if you know what a dative case is good for and how its normally used because you have that in your mother tongue, then you will realise when exactly you might need it in your target language. its all a matter of analysis.
Isaiah Allen
>I assume you learnt English through playing games and the internet as a child so it's comes more naturally What makes you think so?
Nolan Reed
It's how a lot of people learn English, so I've heard. However it was an assumption so I don't know.
James Russell
The easy ones are way too hard desu
Cooper Butler
Reading the Bible in French to test my reading skills
Connor Hill
It seems people think that "hard" equals "long" sentence. Also >Is the moon shining through your bowels What the fug does this mean?
Josiah Reed
Eith
Ye dover lown like for a murtherer. Is the muin skyres throu your thairm, auld billie? It isnae doun on onie cairt; suith locus nocht ar. The Esperantae-fowk werkit to shcape a bourach an a culture.
Middlins
Is freedome foreanent linkit tae the eydentlie o the near weys o scansin? I sey what it skaes tae me tae sey whan I think I harkin fowk sey things. Een tae this day the rauchle facts o herrien is eneuch tae gie an rouchand name tae the maist emptyff kynnd of (don't know what to use). It wisnae by making yourself harkint bot bi steying solit-myndit that ye beirt man-heirskip.
Haird Not doing these weird sentences.
Kevin Ross
Oh, sorry. I guess I was trying to avoid making them boring. In addition to length, I was considering the amount and types of embedded and subordinate clauses, and rarity of vocabulary. >What the fug does this mean? I think the speaker, walking at night, has just encountered an old man who's been stabbed or something (his guts are exposed, presumably).
Anthony Brown
Easy >za mordercy śpisz raczej lekko >Czy księżyc świeci przez twoich jelitach, starzcu? >Nie rozumiem, co dokładnie zna ta sentencja po angielsku,więc nie wytłumaczę jej po polsku >głupci pracowali żeby utworzili społeczności i kulturę
Medium >Czy ma wolność relację odwrotowy z efektywnoścem dostępnośca rzeczy surwejansu >nie z dostania wysłuchany, niż z stać rozsądny żeby przynosiłeś dziedictwa ludźmi
>Du sover jo ganske dypt for en drapsmann. >Faen i helvete din jævla anglo hva faen skulle det bety hvis jeg får spǿrre? >Dette stedet finnes ikke på noen karte; gode steder gjǿr det vanligvis ikke. >Homsene jobbet hardt for å skape et samfunn.
>Er friheten motsatt tilknyttet til de tilgjengelige overvåkningsmåtenes effektivitet? (?)
actually fuck you retard this challenge is ass
Joseph Wright
absolute state
Luke Reyes
Mocno śpisz dla mordercy Czy to twoje wnętrzności, na które świeci księżyc? Tego nie ma na żadnych mapach; (jakieś bzdury) Esperantyści pracowali na prózno, żeby stworzyć społeczność i kulturę
Can't really make sense of the rest, so I'll tap out.
Jason Johnson
Help me learn English brehs
Jordan Long
Anyone wanna post Spanish resources? Here's two I like as a beginner.
1. ok 2. czy księżyc świeci przez twoje wnętrzności, stary druhu? 3. tego nie ma na żadntch mapach, prawdziwych miejsc nigdy tam nie ma 4. why did you add na próżno? also more natural would be społeczeństwo I think
Connor Evans
I lost access to my Discord account. You may kick it out of the /lang/ server if you wish.
>na próżno It was a little joke and I just learned that term so wanted to use it don't h8
Luke Morales
Я yчy pyccкий чтoбы мoгy eбaл шкoльницы (и читaeт дocтoeacкий..)
Nathaniel Ortiz
Is german more complex than latin? Im learning Latin since im a history major and all. Noun declensions are pretty easy to memories, but now that im getting into verbs, tense, and stuff I have to learn an entire excel spreadsheet worth of endings. And the worst part is than I cant just turn on Roman news and listen to the stuff, I need to get actual study material. Eh, at least it follows a modestly regular structure.
>Is german more complex than latin? not in the slightest, german grammar is ooga booga in comparison
Colton Rogers
Cкopee oни тeбя oтcтpaпoнят лoл
Matthew Watson
Your quotes seem a little circuitous or wordy. Some of them you might find in a translation of Kant, or someone from the English gentry in the 1800's trying to keep the rabble from understanding what he is saying. That or a really dry academic journal article.
Isaac Evans
я люблю шлюхи yбить мeня?
Dylan Edwards
AprendemosJuntos and Documentalia are among the few non-retarded channels, although the latter is not for beginners.
Fellow conquistadors are warmly welcomed to redpill on good Spanish content
Aiden Martin
Easy >Andiamo vedere un film >Mi potresti dire dove è la biblioteca? >Non posso scalare la montagna >Lui dormirà presto stasera
Intermediate >Preferieri essere troppo freddo invece di troppo caldo perche sempre posso indossare più dei vestiti >Devo passare questo test non importa cosa così che graduo >Dovremmo iniziare a pianificare le nostre vacanze per l'inverno primo i prezzi dei voli aumentano >Non recita come sappia tutti; a altri fa infastidito
Ethan Butler
Thank God. I wanted to learn Latin and German since my focus is on western european history. I can kinda get the gist of most basic romance sentences, but very little german, dutch, etc. Also since I'm a native english speaker and english is a germanic language with large amount of romance influence, I thought it would be nice to get familiars with both language groups!
Thomas Butler
Let me try Easy >我們去看電影吧 >你可以告訴我圖書館在那裏? >我不能爬山 >他今晚早一點睡覺 I'm done, ching chong is too hard
Christian Thomas
Where to best practice reading these: Люблю мoю мaиy? A starter-level reading list, anyone?
Aaron Cooper
Daily reminder to learn Spain's Spanish unless you want to look like Beto
Eli Jenkins
maybe start with an app like duolingo, memrise clozemaster etc and as you do it you can try to read stuff, maybe some articles or even the general on int. I was reading very slowly at first but now after practice it's a bit easier. Knowing the words helps too
Ryan Peterson
Can someone familiar with Tinycards help me?
If I'm making a flashcard set, can I force all of the words to go in an order every time? They don't randomize the order in which words are learned within one lesson, right?
Jayden Fisher
I'm currently learning French, Spanish, German, Dutch and Arabic. All but Arabic are relatively easy for me to grasp. la pratique rend parfait!
Brandon Evans
5 simultaneosly? lmao I'm learning 3 and wanted to add arabic but put it aside for later because that would be too much. How do you even learn 5 languages
Grayson Moore
Not at the same time. I try to learn each language to a certain level before I brush up on the next one and so on. I guess its just my passion for languages that urges me to learn more.
Kayden Hernandez
I think 4 is the maximum of how many you can learn at once, and generally all 4 of them should be at different levels more or less, e.g. you are learning French at an intermediate level and Spanish at a beginner level.
Ryan Wilson
Which language has the least amount of phonology / different sounds? Toki Pona doesn't count.
Gavin Murphy
use anki and most importantly, have sex
John Scott
if you talk like "thoy de barthelona" people will laugh at you in america
Nicholas Myers
are you learning MSA or a dialect?
Carson Watson
Tutaj roi się od pająków. Jeszcze jeden taki został wessany do odkurzacza.
Carter Thompson
I'd guess Polynesian languages. Hawaiian has a whole eight consonants and five/ten vowels (depending on whether you count short and long versions of the same sound separately).
Nicholas Rivera
Courage user, tu va y arriver
Colton Miller
Based danebro, your posts are amusing, but why do you post these? >jeszcze jeden taki Not sure what this is supposed to mean — I'd correct it if I knew the source.
Wyatt Young
I had in mind "Yet another such one" (technically "Endnu en af dem" or "Endnu sådan en" which perhaps more literally would be "Jeszcze jeden z nich" but I of course can't tell what seems right). It's not schizophrenic shitposting: I'm usually trying to use some construction or term that I haven't seen before. I stumble upon random things like the Shrek cringe compilation meme and think to myself: How to express that? Then I'll think up 20 or so different variants of "Yep I'm adding this to the collection" or "I'm not gonna miss out on this one".
This time, I was debating either a more verbose description of what happens, or something like when Marcus Fenix in Gears of War says "Scratch one grub".
Luis Howard
rebond
Luke Gray
I once looked a bit at Russian and realize now that Jeszcze shouldn't be used like Eщe in the sense of "more" (amount)
They were saying they’re releasing it on my birthday:(
Ryan Russell
How long would it take to go from a2 italian to b1 or b2 for someone that knows albanian (native) and also english?
James Myers
brainlet here how do I setup Rosetta Stone for French learning? I'm talking about pirating it of course
Ian Reed
Vuestro dialecto me gusta, pero no quiero limitarme con solo uno.
Owen Turner
What does "I know you are but what am I" mean?
Jaxon Fisher
I see. The source sounds crude, but you translated it grammatically, for what it's worth. If the idea is only about describing that another spider was vacuumed, the you could simply say 'I kolejny weesany do odkurzacza' (lit. And another sucked into the vacuum'). It has a ring of descriptive satisfaction in Polish. Btw, spiders are beneficial bros: they catch and eat annoying stuff and keep away from trouble, so don't vacuum them.
Not sure about thr profile of 'Eщe', but I think there are cases where 'jeszcze' does in fact fits that role of 'more'. 'Jeszcze' is commonly used as a particle and in conjunction with 'więcej', and in that second sense it may be similar to the Russia word. >Muszę jeszcze popracować. (I have to work still/further/'more yet') >Pyszne lody! Chcę jeszcze. (Delicious ice-cream! I want more)
Refren brzmi tak: To moja ulubiona woda sodowa Wiesz, że nigdy nie będziesz w stanie zrozumieć tego Piję codzinnie i ciągle chcę więcej Ale liczba pustych butelek rośnie z każdym dniem
Ponad trzy miliony wyświetleń
Justin Sanchez
Borrow some time machine, fly to Ancient Egypt, ask the greeks to add a third language to the pebble. Steal it later if you’re real into pirating.
Wyatt Taylor
Zazwyczaj nie dbam o pająki, ale jednej nocy pająk spadł mi prosto na twarz! Dlatego pozbywam się ogromnych
Adam Walker
Remind me what your sources are again? Some of this shit doesn't seem like modern Scots at all.
Isaiah Ramirez
I'm learning both (former for not that long) and German for the last few years, if you're on Steam I can help you with German/learn French with you. German is difficult but consistent which is why I love it
Yes I still use steam and yes I'm the one who offers this to people a lot
Josiah Anderson
>Yes I still use steam Is that so unusual?
Liam Reed
Tiers are all too difficult for their label
Camden Young
All the zoomers went to discord and I have two long term steam friends trying to get me to join their discord servers which are all just unfunny normie memes and circlejerking every time I gave them a chance. Modern steam is good anyway as an IMing climate, the app however is broken and stuck in 2005
Adrian Brown
Client* Also blogging now, prolly gonna audit French classes at my old uni since they're cheap and I'll offer German tutoring services (pays minimum wage but I'm just doing it for fun/resume padding) there if I do so but the classes are too fucking early and I'm dealing a master's I don't want to be sleep deprived for
Benjamin Moore
How buggy is it lol? Latin word order is all kinds of fucked up
Ryder Peterson
Yah, the thing with latin is that you can often change word order for dramatic effect, but there is also a standard kosher word order to. Its kinda vague and context sensitive. I'd love to see how they do it.
Jacob Flores
Yeah most Discord servers are fucking ass. I just got lucky and have 2-3 good ones but they are small cliques. How people can be in 20 different servers with hundreds people in each of them is absolutely beyond me.
Never used Steam to socialize though, I met all my steam friends on other platforms.
Nolan Fisher
Based. I feel like Discord is too intrusive on me. It scatters my attention.
Carter Phillips
Private discords are the only ones worth it, and even then there are probably better solutions.
Cooper Russell
How long would it take to get fluent in Polish?
How long would it take to get to a conversational level?
1. depends on you, but let's say activly learning for 4 years 2. same as above but let's say half of the time you would need for that 3. idk
Grayson Sanchez
>How long would it take to get fluent in Polish? For a monolingual English speaker probably 3-4 years for C1 >How long would it take to get to a conversational level? For a monolingual english speaker no less than a year. >Which are the best resources for learning Polish? Pimsleur, Memrise, grammar books
Juan Wright
Probably the same thing they do for other languages with flexible word order: use and suggest the most common word order for that kind of sentence without any context, but accept all other word orders unless they're impossible for one reason or another.
