Mfw I remember atheism exists

>mfw I remember atheism exists
There's still time to be saved, bros

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Imagine being a christian in nz lol

God's love transcends cultural barriers

Maybe blame the pedo priests that have tarnished the church's reputation beyond repair.

yeah nah i may only speak english but im still a chang at heart bro. fuck off with your jewish sky daddy stories.

Christ doesn't require scholars or savants to be heard. The best Christian I know defines himself as a christian, no church, no bullshits, just him, the christ and the book. He lost his beloved wife and that hasn't changed a single thing in his faith.

Convince me that god exists, then.

God turned his back on me... my allegiance lies with Sathanas

>God's love transcends cultural barriers

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>worshiping a god that put niggers on this earth
Why?

Thats why slavery is okay in the bible.
Have you ever thought that maybe there's some thing that you don't understand?

What a f*king complex.
I recommend you should throw out them all.
God does not real.

Look around you. This is god, and god mad it himself. Really that easy to understand to be honest.

Why do you think that a god made the things around me? Why should I believe that?

You were doing fine until you mentioned “the book”
Which is another man made bullshit that has nothing to do with Christ.

Slavery is bad for economies and only benefits the elite few.

Based

What about evolution? Natural forces? Complex bio-organic chemistry? Cell behaviour? Particle physics, etc. and besides if god made everything, where is god? How does god commute? How do we communicate with god? Is there more than one god? Am I a god?

Do you believe in anything at all ? If you have a scientific mindset then translate 'god' in 'universe' and 'axioms' with 'christs teachings' and extrapolate. Tadammm.
Scientific method doesn't provide the purest form of truth, it's just a way to say that we most likely think it's how x works with a specific certitude rate. Is Christ the son and the Lord ? Is the spin of one exotic particle that value ? Isn't the LHC a new worshipping temple ? Atheism is the lowest form of cosmologic understanding.

It will never be abolished, it just changes faces and names.
Modern slavery is a fact, educated and consistent people struggle to make ends meet and raise a family and/or take care of their family.
I think you know what im talking about.

I can not understand it.
Where is God?
I want to eat God meat.

I believe in the scientific method because it is a system that has proven itself for centuries to lead us closer to the truth. It doesn't tell us the truth, it leads us closer to it, with a high probability of it being true due to extensive research, review and verification.
Religion doesn't do any of that, it doesn't give you any kind of verifiable data, there's no reproducible research, there's no review. You can't give me a research that claims that god exists where the research is falsifiable end verifiable, so it doesn't lead us anywhere closer to the truth.
No one claims science tells us the truth, but it leads us closer and closer to it with formal methods, something that religion never did.

So when a thing is man made it cancels everything ? It doesn't work like that. John, Paul, Matthew transmitted their knowledge and that's what we do since the very beginning.
>What about evolution?
The rules have been set by the almighty.
>Natural forces? Complex bio-organic chemistry? Cell behaviour? Particle physics, etc.
Universal laws are made by an entity, some will call it our universe, our realm, othe will call it God.
>and besides if god made everything, where is god?
He's everywhere you look at.
>How does god commute?
Everyone of your movements are monitored by him and even beyond, some will call it sensitivity to initial conditions.
>How do we communicate with god?
Some will say with love, devotion and faith.
> Is there more than one god? Am I a god?
There is only one creator and you're his creation.

which one of the million cult should I follow ? considering every single one claims you'll go to eternal hell if you believe in any other this is quite the conundrum ahaaha

Please explain why should anyone believe anything you have written here.

Sure but the only proof you have is your own faith, without that you have nothing to back your claim

Fuk*ng Western culture finally collapse!
I feel so good!
Why stupid erupion had been believing God for long time?
So tracky. ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

Yup, all god.
Checkmate.

PAGAN GANG

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OH NO NO NO NO NO

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I want to return back 100year ago more.

Holy war soon.

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>I believe in the scientific method because it is a system that has proven itself for centuries to lead us closer to the truth. It doesn't tell us the truth, it leads us closer to it, with a high probability of it being true due to extensive research, review and verification.
I agree with all this. Newton and Pascal too, two devout christians.
>Religion doesn't do any of that, it doesn't give you any kind of verifiable data,
Wrong, and two times at one. First of all, scientific method is another system of beliefs and its structure looks like highly sophisticated religions. There are churches/temples : labs, big scientifical tools, ted talks ; there are priests and scholars validated by an authority : nobel prizes, fields medals, planteous scientists like Maxwell, Mandelbrot or Chandrasekhar, and there are believers, you and me. Try to make scientifical research in your basement, you'll see that they will laugh at you albeit rigorously following reproductive procedures and epistemology.
Furthermore, any truthworthy historian will count religious writings as genuine scientifical material. Not with the meaning, itself, but meta datas :what has been written, why, during which period, by who, from who, where. These are ancient witnessing and rejecting them is not reasonable, scientifically speaking.
>there's no reproducible research, there's no review.
Yes, according to our scientifical church it's a big nonsense. You have to distance yourself to understand it. Have a Nietzschean force here. Get rid of your own church.
>You can't give me a research that so it doesn't lead us anywhere closer to the truth.
Nobody denies or proves the existence of universe.
>No one claims science tells us the truth, but it leads us closer and closer to it with formal methods, something that religion never did
Religions made cathedrals and I have to remind you that Neil Armstrong went on the moon thanks to an empire where the president pray on the bible.

I’m a Christian and this sounds pretty fucked up

War crime.

Based Muslim bvll

If god exists, then how come am*Ricans are still alive?

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This, just embrace Allah :)

I admire Christianity in many ways but I just can't bring myself to believe in a personal god, what do?

because americans are doing god's work

What you are talking about the method is absolute nonsense. You don't need validation by authority, you never needed that, and the method is not even close to a religion because we don't blindly follow the words of authorities unless you are a dumb fuck who doesn't understand science at all.
You still haven't said any good reason at all to believe in your religion or that a God created everything, you just attacked science, and the method still has a better chance of explaining stuff rather than religion.

Good one. I like your sense of doubt. You're asking me to write an entire book, with hundreds of references. I'm not able to do it now we're just dicussing on a chinese ping pong forum right now. I hope you've done it with every single scientifical claim, even though I doubt you read millions of documents from the FDA, max Planck institute or the CNRS.

Science is mostly faith if you think about it.

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I'm not asking you to write an entire book, I'm asking you to just tell me how the fuck should anyone believe that.
I can tell you how someone could believe in scientific research: find a paper, read it, check if it's reproducible, find references, do your own research or wait for other derivative researches that add trust to the initial conclusion or add stuff to it. After you have enough researches with similar or interconnected conclusions, you can believe that it is the truth with a good probability of being right.

>What you are talking about the method is absolute nonsense.
I barely said anything on scientific method itself. you're falling in a dialectician hole, I understand.
>You don't need validation by authority, you never needed that,
Officialy ? Of course you do. Have you ever been in a laboratory, or talked to a researcher ? Society works with authority and if you have found results, making a synthesis out of it you have to validate it by higher institutions or you will remain a shady scientist with weird, but accurate claims. Look up for Pasteur and Koch rivalry, it's the best exemple on this matter. You think that science is the queen, but man, give me enough money and I will prove you that Coca cola and tobacco are good for your health.
>and the method is not even close to a religion because we don't blindly follow the words of authorities unless you are a dumb fuck who doesn't understand science at all.
Of course you do. We have axioms and if you reject them, you're categorized a fool at best. In some countries, in Europe by instance, you can be jailed because you deny scientifical truthes (I'm not lying).
>You still haven't said any good reason at all to believe in your religion or that a God created everything, you just attacked science, and the method still has a better chance of explaining stuff rather than religion
I've said a lot of things but you don't read. You just want to write. I understand. Re read Nietzsche.

God meat? More like Dog meat

Yeah, If God does real, I want to eat it.

BASED

The biggest difference is that the scientific method is open to change, where religion is not. People mock it for changing according to it's discoveries, but that's one of the better thing about it. Imagine the hubris involved in thinking that you got literally everything right the first time.

>the scientific method is open to change
then, why is earth not flat?

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because none of the theories hold up to falsification. Whenever someone challenges flat earthers they start to screech that it is a conspiracy. They FA society actually did a really good experiment, but it kinda proved them wrong. So there's that.

>saved
From what? Who is doing the saving?

Save yourself brainwashed coward.

the scientific method is self-correcting, more than ''open to change''

Yeah, but I just assumed that no one here would understand what that meant.

>mfw i remember christcuckery still exists

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>where religion is not
Interesting belief, and very important one in the debate, the brazilian poster implied the same thing.
Are you sure that religions don't change ? Even Islam, an orthopraxy based on an allegedly god sent teachings, counts dozens of standards. Sufism, shias, alaouits, sunnism - wahabbism etc.
Council of Nicee is a great exemple of the organic nature of religions.

Could you provide me of an example of change in religion? I will whole-heartedly agree that religion have been culled in many aspects. But change feels so distant to the concept.

There's no time left. Those who love their sins won't turn away from wickedness. The opposite, they spite God.
The truth will be revealed soon. When that day comes I pity anyone who refused to take it seriously.

still the best worldwide religion and the most compatible with human progress and excellence.

I do kind of struggle to honestly believe. But I follow most of the church's teachings as best I can. It gives my life a certain structure, and I have an immense respect for religion anyway.

*european progress and excellence, impeded by christcucks

>worshipping god because he wants god to be in his favor

shove your retarded childlike runes up your arse

Well, the reform seems like a big change in christendom.

wItHoUt ChRisT weD bE exPLoRinG thE gAlaXy

t. atheist who's not a cultureless sperg

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but wasn't that a 16th century thing? Sure it is change, but you can't say that religion is prone to change if it has undergone a single reform.

Soyboys are exclusive atheists and IFVCKINGLOVESCIENCE weirdos

What's wrong with loving science, the most noble human endeavor ? Soyboys are ruining it too.