Jow Forums I need some advice, encouragement, or something

What kind of job are you trying to get post graduation? Web dev, software engineer, do you even know? A lot of web development is glueing libraries/frameworks together and not a whole lot of actual hard programming. Maybe you should consider that route.

If you think you can power through the upper level courses and graduate with a decent gpa I say keep going. Once you've mastered the basics things aren't so bad imo. A comp sci degree is one of the few that's still worth it

Instead of shooting for C or C+ I recommend C++

OP, I am a thirld world guy actually doing two graduations- one is electrical engineering and the other is computer engineering.

You dont have to know everything, you have to "appear" like you do, to be able to get the enough grades to pass.

Dont be fooled, knowledge is power, but power in a cuck hand means shit, so if you aint so good into have a npc brain that record everything focus on another areas.

Life is a mix of things, if you have time you can make it with enough resources and efforts, just dont listen to the ones that will discourage you.

Its better to have a graduation than to have none, you can always try to build your own business, but you have to stand your ground if you dont.

Be a man, have balls, invest on your talents and you will make it.

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switch to business information systems or management information systems if its too hard

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but I heard there is no jew in my asian country sir

can't, I'm still too poor

I'm not in debt yet, and don't plan too. It's easy to get a scholarship in my country if you get some achievement from high school, but if I failed this one --there is no second chance for me and working in some fast food store may be a probability for my future.

I'm trying and struggling to continue. Guess that's the only way to make it, barely

So you basically saying OP should just learn Solidity or something like this and get really good at it

the degree is like a high school diploma 20 years ago. you need it to get into any decent job now.

its value outside of that is nothing. just do it. honestly if you are half way through jsut complete it, you invested enough time. slump through it. how old are you? i promise you will fucking regret not puting 1 single year of your life more into it. will make life easier later.

why didnt you switch majors?

you should prob switch to a different major if you feel unhappy with being a CS major. I doubt you would want to be a code monkey for a good portion of your career.
either switch to something you can tolerate more or enjoy. or just withdraw and go to a cc and learn a trade.

i would just switch into informatics if your school offers such a degree or business.

OP, dont listen to him.

There is no such thing as "change to a easier" so you can make it, you have to make it anyway, anyhow and you will if you believe in yourself.

Dont make concesions when its about your future or dream.

I am a thirld world guy, poor, fucked up, hungry as hell and I'm still balling, if you mess you WILL BE MY WAGESLAVE BOY, because I have balls of STEEL.

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Maybe you have ADHD or a mood disorder, any combination of those issues can really fuck with your success at university

OP, a thirld world boy like me would rampage you in many ways, the world is a fight, you have to stand your ground to the people that care and love you because if you dont someone who have more balls than you will do.

There is no shortcut, no easy way, dont come with 0,0001% exceptions unless you have real facts to endorse you.

You have resources, have time and health, you aint like me that have to job beg everyday to make money to survive and bypass a lot of shit just to try to make it.

I have to do a lot of shit to do $15, dont come with yada yada, you can make, you have resources and you can focus on your life.

Or pretend you dont read and get fucked by life mega dildo, pussie.

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I haven't figured my niche, I'm still learning the basics. It's gonna be a long way for me. Guess what I can do now is try some networking.

Thanks for the Udemy recommendation, had some friends recommend it too but haven;t looked into it.

probably front end web development, shit that ain't too hard on programming logic and such? It's even hard to keep up because every few month there is a new library, js this js that, I don't even know which one will still be around when/if I graduate.

lol nice joke, I guess C++ translates to B-

thanks user, I'm a third world guy too.

that's a possibility too.

Hold on

Most professional programmers are ridiculously incompetent and are sometimes even too inept to Google/Stackexchange everything (there is no shame in this).

If you can draw conclusions and know how to find how to code shit, you’re in the top 50% of employed programmers. Dress nice for interviews, practice.

My first week on the job as a programmer I was mortified how lacking in fundamentals/apathetic half of programmers/engineers are. Now it is no surprise. You’ll do fine. Keep it up OP.

I recently graduated with CS degree in a similar situation. I made no effort to program outside of class assignments. I put no effort into getting an internship. I made no effort to work on my own projects. and here i am with a degree, but I am basically a jobless NEET.

You wont get any better at programming just going through the motions of getting a CS degree like i did. You will be so far behind. There are people that already started programming before they even got into uni. There are autists that spend every hour of their free time working on their own projects. Programming has to be a hobby if you want to succeed (if you want a career as a software engineer/web dev etc..).

With that said here are the things I wish I did:

1. For class assignments, do them on your own. ask your professor for help rather than your friends who will just let you see their code.
2. Start working on some personal projects and put them on github. They can be useless dogshit programs. Doesnt have to be something unique.
3. Learn a new language outside of what is being taught in class. Just get somewhat decent at it, dont have to be an expert.
4. Go on leetcode/hackerrank etc. and solve some problems. Just work on the easy/medium difficulty problems. You will get stuck, DONT look at the solutions right away and try your best. This will help for the next step.
5. Look for internships NOW. I know you feel incompetent but you can definitely get an internship. Dont be intimidated by the requirements they list. You will get interviewed and most likely you will fail the technical portion, but its ok you will succeed eventually. Employers wont expect much from you anyways and will hold your hand on the job.

If you are not willing to put the effort into any one of these things you will struggle as a developer and finding a job will be a nightmare. Programming is not for everybody, unfortunately for me I learned this way too late into my studies. Just dont make the same mistake I did.

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I could barely remember what I was learning in trade school until I found an apprenticeship. Now the two strengthen each other.

>tfw second year finance major
>can't even into calculus
I feel like a brainlet and this will actually be used extensively in jobs so I'm pretty much just going to start reading textbooks front & back.

Waste of time. Just do practice problems from Schaum’s.

kek, can you give me any war stories or examples of incompetence?

Thanks for this user

You have no idea what you’re talking about.

>and i wont need most things ever again in my job later on (like maths)
holy fuck

thanks for the advice user

1) I asked for source code. A guy sent me an executable in a zip file. He kept arguing with me it was source code. I had to go get it from the company instead of the co-worker. Co-worker has a master’s in CS and like a decade of “work experience”.
2) Another employee said “how many bits in a byte is an opinion” He was serious.
3) Refusal to use version control. “Just burn it to a CD”.
4) Basic IT retardation. Don’t know how to change proxy settings or how to check if their hard drive is full.
5) Bragging about how C/C++/Linux is difficult and only 1337 h4x0rz know it. Or bragging about getting some mundane thing working as if anyone would be impressed.
6) Had a meeting with a CEO of some small tech company. He kept talking about how his turn-key machines are “unhackable” because they use “antivirus”. It was an embedded Linux system with no network connectivity/no Ethernet ports, no WiFi. Guy was a millionaire and like 60 and had an engineering degree.
...few of these people are actually smart or logical (ironically)

Love it, if you come up with any more I'd love to hear them

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>6) Had a meeting with a CEO of some small tech company. He kept talking about how his turn-key machines are “unhackable” because they use “antivirus”. It was an embedded Linux system with no network connectivity/no Ethernet ports, no WiFi. Guy was a millionaire and like 60 and had an engineering degree.
what did you say to this guy? I'd love to hear the entire conversation

I said nothing. My company has some long history with theirs so their mind was made up to buy whatever they’re selling. I interviewed the actual engineer who did all the work on the device. He was a smarter engineer than I. Was a 1 man operation on that part. But the guy running the place didn’t engineer dick for decades and probably wasn’t that good at it in the first place.

what was your company's application for a bunch of embedded linux boxes with no networking?

Portable X-ray machines.

oh, so there was a legitimate application for them and he was just selling them in an idiotic manner?

Yeah it wasn’t a scam. He was just so far removed from actual engineering or day-to-day stuff he just threw around some buzzwords.

Got it. That sounds stupid, but forgivable. The thing with the guy sending you a binary and claiming that it was source code—can't really give him a pass on that

Yes. Homer Simpsons are everywhere. People who coast through shit and are totally unaware/dont care about their incompetence. The longer I work as an engineer/programmer the more believable/realistic Homer becomes.

So anyway. If you’ll feel better (or terrified) once you actually see Homer Simpson is real. Also lower GPA people are working on life-or-death shit (medical, defense, insurance, etc) and high GPA people are working on making Siri find pizza quicker or graphics cards for vidya. Lol

>Also lower GPA people are working on life-or-death shit (medical, defense, insurance, etc) and high GPA people are working on making Siri find pizza quicker or graphics cards for vidya

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Companies like NVIDIA or Qualcomm or Apple will say 3.8+GPA or gtfo. Insurance, medical, or defense will just ask that you have a degree or be vague-r. The last 3 are generally undesirable/dinosaur companies. But they’re also more secure.

is the gpa thing hardline ? In the UK instead of gpa we have different divisions (first, upper second, second and so on) and then for postgrad we have distinction, merit and pass. I was looking at the gpa equivilant for a first class with honours (highest catagory for undergrad) and its only like 3.4 ? I got a merit for my postgrad, which is generally considered to be equivilant to a upper second or B grade and its like 2.8 gpa in the conversion tables ?! I dont wanna be a wagecuck or anything but it would be nice to be able to piss amerifags off like i can piss britfags off, just for reference the top corporates here also ask for a first class for undergrad and at least a merit from the equivilant of an ivy league at postgrad (or doctorate).

good lord you guys are weird

Anyway to make it without a compsci degree? What if you are programmer chad with demonstrable skill?

the degree types get even weirder user, especially for the ancients of ivy league uni’s.