How does your country's urban landscape look like?
How does your country's urban landscape look like?
Mason Gonzalez
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Elijah Perry
Mason Green
Nathan Rivera
bulgaria is very comfy place.
Luis Brown
The OP image is Korea though, not Bulgaria. Not that we don't have the same concrete jungle in a few cities.
Here's some Bulgaria.
Dominic Rogers
Thomas Robinson
Matthew Myers
Kayden Morris
Kevin Clark
Nathan Lee
Adrian Bailey
i know what bulgaria looks like. i have been there 3 times.
Aaron Foster
Josiah Thompson
Can you tell where the Berlin wall used to be just looking at panel buildings?
Jace Jenkins
comfy
Charles Smith
John Cook
photos from above always makes it look better
droneshots should be banned
Brandon Smith
That's South Korea
Jaxson Murphy
Nathan Jenkins
Zagrebyinsk reporting in
Joseph Fisher
>how to post pictures of whole neighborhoods?
>i know, lets do it from regular human height!
y tho
Jordan Moore
here it's the opposite, photos from above look repulsive in Poland, because we don't have the culture of unified roof color like everywhere in the world so it looks messy when you see a cluster of randomly colored roofs.
Camden Taylor
There are a lot of commiblocks but they're spread out a lot more. Usually you might have 3-4 together.
Dylan Lewis
We have that, but with balconies, in the sort of lower middle class neighborhoods. Someone gets spare money, and decides he wants an X style balcony, doesn't ask anyone else in the building, just adds it.
Robert Sanchez
>doesn't ask anyone else in the building, just adds it
As befits your Mongol roots.
Jonathan Johnson
There are no laws against something like bottom left? Doesnt even look safe.
David Brooks
at least all your roofs are red, that's beautiful
Noah Bell
Das rite.
>laws
LMAO what r u, a liberast?
Dominic Torres
istinskiqt haidutin lmaooo
Gabriel Foster
Landon Peterson
Honestly, nice.
But it seems to lack parks, playgrounds and public transport considering the sheer number of buildings here.
Noah Perez
Mexican cities are usually flat. Mexicans don't like living in appartment buildings, two story houses are the most common.
Josiah Adams
>Mexicans don't like living in appartment buildings
>implying people in eastern Europe like it and it wasn't just a retarded idea of communist governments
Jace Green
Communist governments had policies to prevent capitals growing out of control into city-state status and soaking all commerce. Then when it didn't work, they just went full retard with pre-fabricated panel blocks. But that wasn't the original idea. Originally commies fetishized the rural life, and hated the commercial centers. Honestly commie blocks are more of a fashist ideological idea.
Cameron Torres
Nicholas Foster
Yesusse Kriste, how horrifying.
Anthony Morgan
>Originally commies fetishized the rural life, and hated the commercial centers.
This is utterly and completely false, if you are speaking about marxists. For some other socialist movements of the 19th century that is correct. For marxism it couldn't be further from the truth.
Also, prefab blocks were the correct housing idea.
Angel Lopez
why aren't there underground garages?
cars are spread over so much space there cannot be a reason not to build them
Gavin Anderson
Daniel Ortiz
Seriously, I don't get why commies couldn't go for pre-fab terraced houses like in working class neighborhoods in the UK. Quality of life is so much higher if you have your own backyard, even a small one.
Jose Campbell
Angel Thomas
I guess it depends where your commies came from. In Russia they came from the city intelligentsia basically. Here, they came from the big agricultural owners.
I know for a fact they tried to keep our capital small, there used to be something like a separate citizenship for it, to get a permanent address there, and fake marriages to get access to it. The model they wanted was small private producers in rural settlements, plus big agricultural projects between them on common land, and our capital doesn't make sense for that. Its in a hole between mountains. We are running out of hole, too.
Slightly harder to make, significantly less beds per square meter of ground. Can't stack peasants as well in these compared to the ones we got. Which is also why american human cages are also the same shape as ours, more efficient.
Jose Thomas
Pic related is east London btw
Austin Moore
It's very vibrant.
Oliver Phillips
Surprised to see short buildings, considering the rent prices.
Thomas Brown
Logan Morris
>prefab blocks were the correct housing idea.
the idea wouldn't be that bad if the blocks had higher quality and looked more like in Sweden or France, but commies in eastern Europe tried to cut costs to a high degree and didn't even bother to paint the blocks, not to mention adding any additional amenities
>I know for a fact they tried to keep our capital small, there used to be something like a separate citizenship for it, to get a permanent address there, and fake marriages to get access to it.
It was like that everywhere, in Poland (Warsaw) or the USSR (Moscow). Getting a "moskovskaya propiska" (registration in Moscow) was the plot of many Soviet films, especially comedies, also songs, because people had to do ridiculous stuff to achieve the goal.
Sometimes it's interesting how all commie countries were similar to each other despite not having strong ties. Like, it's not that eastern Europeans travelled around the eastern bloc like people do it now in Europe, it wasn't that easy to cross the border even to a "friendly" socialist brother country yet the ideas diffused across the borders somehow.
>Slightly harder to make, significantly less beds per square meter of ground
Actually in commieblock neighborhoods you have vast, empty space between the blocks where only dogs roam around and poop and children play there (lmao). So a lot of unused space that could be occupied by terraced housing and backyards if there were no commieblocks. Overall, I'm pretty sure a typical British neighborhood provides as much living space as a typical commieblock one does, while having many advantages over the commieblocks.
Gavin Long
David Stewart
>didn't even bother to paint the blocks
But thats decoration. It has no function. Decoration without function is decadent. You aren't... you aren't a bourgeoisie, are you, comrade? Should I call the Stasi?
As per the 20th century "affordable housing" and the idea of bringing the poor to the city, the ideology of lifting them from the ground in big village sized building complexes, up to the sky, etc, is explored in a podcast I just remembered. If you have the time for it, its a two parter:
>99percentinvisible.org
>99percentinvisible.org
Spoiler: the dutch destroyed their commie blocks and replaced them with houses.
Asher Perry
perhaps a more flattering pic
Brody Adams
Very close to my perfect city, tbqh. I love the self contained little neighborhoods, I love the irregular houses, I love the tasteful business area on the far end, I love the old church in the middle, I love the loose grid.
Joseph Ramirez
>Spoiler: the dutch destroyed their commie blocks and replaced them with houses.
yes, the Brits also do it with the few blocks they have. Americans did it a long time ago. Unfortunately, it's impossible here as all apartments were privatized in the 90s and if you wanted to demolish a commieblock, you'd need to buy out all apartments (often more than 100) from individuals which is pratically impossible because one old grandpa is enough to stop the process. So now we have commieblocks surrounded by flashy skyscrapers in the very centre of Warsaw and that's not going to change like ever
Luis Richardson
i like this part of town
Grayson Lopez
>the idea wouldn't be that bad if the blocks had higher quality and looked more like in Sweden or France, but commies in eastern Europe tried to cut costs to a high degree and didn't even bother to paint the blocks, not to mention adding any additional amenities
Well, that's the equivalent of "why don't you have a bigger budget". You make the most of what you have. That being said, the blocks have a facade and are painted, and there is a more than sufficient amount of services nearby, from shops and parks to schools and playgrounds. unless it is different in bulgaria.
That's interesting. I would not have expected that.
Gabriel Ortiz
>Well, that's the equivalent of "why don't you have a bigger budget
Well, the Swedes could also choose that commie tactics, they would've built 2 million apartments instead of 1 million. But for some reason they didn't. Maybe because they realized humans needed something more than bare apartments in grey blocks of flats to live well?
Evan Jackson
>That being said, the blocks have a facade and are painted
Here almost everything was grey (and lacked proper insulation) up to the 1990s, when they started to improve the quality.
Apartments in my parents' block (built in the late 80s) didn't even have plaster on internal walls, it was just bare concrete panels inside and the dwellers had to 'finish' the block on their own just to make it livable (in primitive conditions but still). I guess it was different in Yugoslavia that was the richest Eastern European country, but in Warsaw Pact countries their quality was awful
Hunter Williams
When I was in Berlin I stayed at a block like that, with the tiny inner courtyard. There was nothing there. Not even 2 benches and a table. So weird. But it did have tow huge wooden medieval looking doors that closed the whole thing before midnight, and I had to struggle to open when coming home drunk in the AM.
Joshua Adams
comfy
Noah Wood
You do understand that housing is built to house a certain population, do you not? That means there are two undesirable situations - the one where the necessary number of flat units is exceeded and the one where there is not enough of them. The first case means waste, with empty and dilapidated buildings, and the second case means homelessness. Both are undesirable.
Now, considering that you are aiming for a certain number of flats to be built, you cannot "aim for a million flats instead of two million" if two million flats are necessary, unless you want a massive homeless population. In the same way, you cannot build two million flats if one million is sufficient, because that would mean a million empty, dilapidated, rotting flats you've wasted your industry on building and cannot be maintained.
So, the number of necessary flats is fixed. As is the industry you have at disposal to bulld them. You can speak of mistakes or inefficiencies in building, but, as both the demand for flats and industry are fixed, you cannot demand that more be spent on flats than there can be.
Besides, I do not really understand your problem with socialist-era blocks. What is your difficulty with living in them?
Lincoln Stewart
>the blocks have a facade and are painted
>unless it is different in bulgaria
It was, the blocks were raw and had no painting of any finish whatsoever.
Today we have the ideology of heating efficiency, so we put some crap styrofoam insulation, and paint over that, so they don't look as bad. But the ones where the private owners didn't want to pay a bit for insulation and paint still are just brutalist slabs of raw concrete, obelisks to the socialist period's misunderstanding of what humans need to function.
Daniel Taylor
Not even trees?
Nathaniel Phillips
There was one tree, and bushes, and some badly kept grass. And a muddy shortcut in the middle where people went through to save 12 seconds of walking. It was just empty unused space. Meanwhile here people put chairs and tables even between buildings, in noman's land, and put some toys for children to play with, like sand traps or car tires or some stupid thing like that. I specifically remembered it, because it was wasted space in a city thats pretty densely built.
Lucas Gonzalez
Really? That sounds rough.
Funnily enough, what you've gained is what we've lost. People don't buy newly built or currently building flats because they are usually of very suspicious quality.
Justin Gomez
Nice addicts and criminals you got there bud.
Mason Gutierrez
Yep
Gavin Gutierrez
Anthony King
i dont live there
Joseph Scott
First is post-USSR, second from USSR?
Wyatt Morales
But 1 million apartments in Sweden didnt fulfill the goal to provide housing to every Swedish citizen and the country suffered from the housing crisis anyway, so it can be said a bigger number of blocks should've been built, yet they didn't try to save money on housing quality.
>Besides, I do not really understand your problem with socialist-era blocks. What is your difficulty with living in them?
Here is a video from a good (!) commieblock neighborhood in Warsaw in the 1980s:
youtube.com
do you see anything but greyness there? the blocks didn't have any amenities, nothing around and inside
it's bullshit that commies built blocks together with schools, markets and everything around, it was just a bunch of blocks on an empty field 5 km from the city and the dwellers were lucky if the first market (that was empty for most of the time) was built 5 years after
Nathaniel Peterson
Muh balcony
Sebastian Wilson
id say this is quite good utilization of space, don't you think?
Tyler Hernandez
I do :(
Eli Harris
Yes
Gabriel Young
and now this neighborhood in 2018:
do you see a difference? but it was done only after the 1990s.
Ethan Moore
t. Drago Achmedinovic
Asher Foster
we have commie blocks with fake bosphorus view
Elijah Lee
Prestigious.
Typical commie blocks only have other commie blocks as view.
Levi Bennett
another angle. just lol.
Hunter Thompson
It's comfy
Jordan Evans
Is this stationary water? Doesn't it bloom or start to smell or something? Venice stinks in the heat.
Jace Richardson
land is cheap enough to build wide
Owen Powell
it's basically a giant pool. probably they add some chemicals to water.
Henry Hernandez
It sounds pretty bad. That being said, I don't know what it is - whether it is how strongly they are coloured, or how the colour doesn't compliment the pattern of windows and balconies, but, by God, the newly painted buildings such as the one in your picture do not agree with me at all.
I will have to seriously doubt that sweden intentionally underbuilt. the fact is that sweden was a much wealthier, fully industrialised state which could afford (and knew how to, considering that its industry wasn't undergoing a process of rapid expansion - the lack of skilled workers and transmitted knowledge undercut the east block significantly) to build housing of better quality.
as for your video, the beginning panorama is pretty blurry, and i would be lying if i said it gave me any feel of the city.
is this show good?
Henry Walker
Nicholas Wright
This is my town, pretty boring but chill.
Daniel Gomez
I came here to say it looks like my country and it really is. lol
Carter Foster
>is this show good?
It's a comedy show about life in a commieblock, it used to be very popular in the 1980s because it depicted all the problems people living in the blocks had to deal with.
Matthew Hill
these are the oldest commie blocks in turkey i guess. from 50's.
but their conditions are not bad. there are private security guards, doormans etc.
Adrian Kelly
it would be elite housing here even in the 1980s
that feel when Turkey was seen as a developed country here back then
Thomas Ramirez
well yeah, but what i'm asking you is whether it's good
Wyatt Cruz
Commieblock life for me
Samuel Bell
It's called perimeter block development
Christopher Martin
Cooper Garcia
for a Pole it is good, because it has a lot of subtle references to Polish communist reality, traditions etc.
for a foreigner it won't be as understandable and good I think
Ryan Morris
I might still watch it.
Alan Ford was very popular here for a similar reason.
I stopped by a newspaper stand today, and it turns out comics are almost completely gone from them. It honestly depressed me a bit.
Jacob Hill
we still build commie blocks. these are new commie blocks for poor people. $20k for 1+1 apartment.
John Ortiz
and these are the commie blocks for rich people. i don't know prices.
Adam Smith
why are Turks so good at building?
half of constructions in eastern Europe are being built by Turkish companies
Asher Sanders
they know how to find cheap labor
Julian Wood
nah, it's Ukrainians in every company.
but Turks seem to be good engineers