I once read that France and America are unique among nations in believing that their values are universal. Both nations assert a belief in inalienable human rights to be protected through democratic forms of governance. Both nations were built on similar principles, drawing from the same sources among 17th and 18th century philosophers. But scratch the surface and you find that American and French interpretations differ radically.
For example, both countries espouse the separation of Church and State. In the US, this separation is mainly intended to safeguard freedom of belief which makes sense given the role of immigrants fleeing religious persecution in American history. In France, this separation is mainly intended to prevent the intrusion of religion into the affairs of the state which makes sense given the historical role of the Catholic Church in the French monarchy (think Cardinal Richelieu under Louis XIII). In effect, one seeks to protect religious freedom from government interference while the other seeks to protect government from religious influence.
The French generally accept that the role of government is to ensure the health and welfare of the citizenry where Americans generally support limitations on government in favor of individual liberty. As a result, the French pay taxes for national health care, retirement, and education where Americans pay insurance premiums, pension contributions, and school tuitions.
I could go on, but for the sake of brevity, France and America represent different expressions of the same ideals. Beyond political or economic power, I would argue that France is important in the world because it offers an alternative vision.
>America are unique among nations in believing that their values are universal And that is why you get all the hate you earned. Stupid delusional egocentric shits.
Chase Wood
>Bankrupt your country to give us our freedumbs
Truly greatest ally. Thank you based France.
Nathan Bailey
Seething deportee
Robert Lewis
Tu sigue tragando verga wey y callate el hocico
Xavier Fisher
Why are Mexicans (and Brazilians) always the most consistently nasty, mean spiritrf, shitty posters on Jow Forums without fail? Genuinely curious.
Nathaniel Harris
S E E T H I N G
P R I E T O
Eli Thompson
whiter than you tizoc
Landon White
Agreed. For as much shit as we throw at your country, I think most Americans can recognize how important our alliance is, how parallel our history runs, and how similar our political values are.
Kinda unrelated, but I visited your country last year. It was very homey and everyone was extremely friendly. Even in Paris people seemed genuinely happy to talk to me and gave me words of encouragement when I fucked up my French. I hope Americans do the same to French when they work on their English here.
Mason Allen
based, france is our sister nation
Adrian Peterson
Post hand
Matthew Smith
I feel like no one gives France shit in the US these days. That was last a thing like during the Iraq invasion.
Lucas Williams
btw, we were right about Iraq
Dominic Brown
I dunno. Lots of older folk tell surrender jokes and plenty of all-age people strongly and vocally opinion on France’s gov’t all the time.
Robert Moore
Well european countries themselves have sorta lost uniqueness about them as the EU becomes a bigger deal. Now i see people referring to Europe as a continent, not individual countries unless le nazi meme and Britain
Landon Howard
only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. as nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters
Where do you live, I feel like where I am from is pretty typical of the US as a whole in that generally Americans just dont really think about Europe at all or care.
I couldn't tell you I have ever encountered an American with vocal opinions about European politics outside a uni campus. Most with any kind of opinions are leftist Americans who think Europe is a paragon whose social welfare systems are pinnacle of human achievement. That kind of thing.
Pretty sure the only American who would disagree with you at this poimt would be John Bolton kek.
Benjamin Hernandez
Chicago, but also I’m a college student so that may be part of it
Ethan Clark
we learned liberty from your writers and your ideas, and our revolution inspired yours
history lesson - the real source of anti french sentiment is from the 1960s when NATO forces (re: the US) tried to put nuclear missles in France, pointed at the USSR. The US had previously done with on Turkish land until Bobby Kennedy brokered a non-published agreement with the USSR, thus ending the Cuban missle crisis.
General Charles DeGaulle was okay with NATO nukes on French soil, until the US revealed that French forces would NOT have joint control over them. The US was planning WWIII. General DeGaulle saw the writing on the wall, and said "Fuck Non", then kicked NATO out of France in 1967. If you hear a boomer or some random idiot say "They kicked us out after we saved them", correct their retardation. The US wanted a nuclear war with the USSR, and General Charles DeGaulle stopped it from happening... mostly because it violated French soveriegnty.
What kind of cognitive dissonance do you have to go through to oppose human rights? You are literally (not figuratively, literally) asking to be abused by people, businesses and governments, it's genuinely irrational.
Nathan Moore
seems like an unfair trade
Samuel Rodriguez
If you think that french women are better than american women, let me tell you that you're deeply mistaken. There are millions more of wife material in the us than in france.
Asher Bailey
i'd trade 1 french women for a 1000 pink-faced angloid pigs
Kayden Hill
The delusion would be so huge that you'd probably kill yourself the moment she tells you she's going to the club with her friends and you have no business on that.
you speaking from experience? my condolences Pierre
William Jackson
can you give us a rundown of the average american woman v the average french woman?
Carson Gonzalez
utterly meaningless, all of this applies to every western country. the enlightenment affected and even molded all of modern western civ. it's maybe worth noting that while france was fucking around having like 4 different radically different governmental changes in 19th century, the UK was a perfectly stable TEXTBOOK constitutional monarchy, like everything enlightenment writers said about having the monarch as a figurehead and maybe occasional guide, separation of powers, free trade, laissez faire, the UK applied it all perfectly.
and look where it got them. a rapidly declining shithole country with no empire, a meaningless monarchy, and london full of pakis and niggers. you got the same thing except replace meaningless monarchy with meaningless "muh republicanism" larping and paris fill of algerians and niggers. the enlightenment was all for nothing.
