Why would anyone even buy stocks?

Literally what grounds bind the stock to the welfare of the company?

Why should a stock's value increase just because the company is doing well? There are the same number of shares as before, what even changes the demand for a share of a company doing well? Stamp collecting bullshit

>still doesn’t understand crypto is a scam
>ohhh still doesn’t understand stocks are a scam
>still doesn’t understand it’s all a scam

>retard doesnt understand basic economics
this is what crypto does to people, huh?

Literally what? Literally kill yourself

Unless you’re buying real estate, land, farms......tangible assets then it’s all a scam. Jewish scams, usury, you know the things they’ve been persecuted for centuries. (((They))) just passed laws and made these “legal”

Its legal gambling.
If we could bet on horses, im sure many would do that instead.

Okay so now investment banks and companies profit from dumping worthless shares onto retards.

I never said a company profited from stock speculation.

As I stated before, the company is doing well. So what? It's just a pool of morons trying to dump their shares on each other while the actual owners of the company make millions. They already have your money, if they fail they're still rich and you end up even poorer.

>unless the stock pays a dividend
people generally dont buy without a dividend, or if they do it's in an extremely stable company or it's in a company that offers a high return/high risk profile.

but dont underestimate dividends. if you have a substantial amount of money to invest, a portfolio of dividend returning stocks can make you very rich.

>Its legal gambling.
>If we could bet on horses, im sure many would do that instead.
it's nothing like this. in the UK we can bet on horses, and no-one seriously thinks it's akin to stock market investment.

Clearly I understand the stock market enough to see it's bullshit. You had a clear chance to post an argument, but decided to parrot some half-ass insults instead. Feel free to prove me wrong.

Once a company grows to a certain point it tends to pay out dividends so the value of a company that doesn’t pay dividends is based partly on the belief that it will get to the point where it becomes a behemoth like Coca-Cola and starts paying them.

You also have a small slice of power over how the company is run by holding the stock. An individual investor will likely never exercise this power but if a large player wants to come in and gain more control, they’re going to have to buy shares from these small stakeholders.

You literally just buy stocks hoping to sell them to someone else at a higher price. Total scam.

Checked

A company is something that produces value. If the profit and assets keep going up then its value goes up. Maybe you can’t actually do anything with 1 share, or 100 shares. You have to think of a share like a vote in an election. 1 vote is worthless, having millions of votes is very valuable. If buying people’s votes was legal you would be able to assign a monetary value to each vote. There are people out there with enough money and reasons to buy millions of votes. Whatever that amount is gets averaged into the price of each one.

Kek the company can be making record profits and paying fat bonuses to all the executives and not pay shareholders a fucking penny. You guys are like cockroaches rummaging for crumbs.

> "EPS is 5% higher than expected, please sir buy my shares at a 2% markup"

Not to mention every company manipulates the fuck out of all of their data/news to constantly fuck the shareholders over even more. How's Enron doing with those record profits it was making?

A stock is a piece of a company. Most companies are either trash or over valued, but hey, guess what? You don't have to buy those companies. Buy a piece of a company with good leadership, good fundamentals, and good vision that also is under valued. They're out there. How else do you think Warren Buffet became one of the richest men to have ever lived? Buying gold? lmfao

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By law, owning a share is equivalent to owning the companies assets and liabilities. So if you own .01% of Apple shares, you lsomehow own .01% of their facilities , cash, inventories

There's all kinda cones out here.

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Nope preferred shareholders get first dibs on money from forced liquidations.

Go try to claim some property or cash from the company you own stock from retard. They'll tell you to go sell your imaginary shares to another retard like you.

Lmao all the power in a company is derived from shareholders. The CEO, execs are all the bitches of the actual OWNERS of the company. Most CEOs and high up execs don’t even get comped that much in cash, they themselves get a big part of their pay from the stock of their company.

Want to call the shots at a big fortune 100? You have to own stock. You buy the stock? Value goes up. The shareholders are the ones who decide in the first place whether to have dividends. Goddamn you have to be trolling

If the top shareholders wanted to disperse Apple’s 100+ billion cash pile in the form of dividends they could. It would be a stupid move since it would hinder growth of the company though.

You don't buy stocks. You buy calls or puts.

> T-the CEO works for me guys!

Be sure to tell him that through the drive through window when he pulls through in his latest supercar.

The board chooses wether or not to pay dividends dummy. Not you with your fucking 30 shares of ford.

I'm not talking about options trading. Derivatives are an entirely diffetent layer of cuckery.

investopedia.com/articles/markets/120115/top-5-apple-shareholders.asp

Gee there's definitely no insider manipulation going on here at all. After all the billionaire CEO works for you right?

> delusional brainlets believe this shit

Shareholders choose the board members and how do you think one even becomes a majority shareholder? Do the shares appear out of thin air, or do they have to buy them from the thousands of smaller shareholders thereby increasing the value of the stock?

NOBODY is claiming you have any power because you own 50 shares of aapl. We’re talking about the value of a share. You can’t own 500k shares without buying them from all the smaller players.

>do they come out of thin air

investopedia.com/articles/stocks/11/dangers-of-stock-dilution.asp

It's like you don't even understand what you're arguing for. Stockholm syndrome at its finest.

Come back when you understand some basics. You can literally get the answers to these brainlet questions by using google for 5 mins.

Come back when you have an argument you fucking idiot

You need to be at least 18 to post here, kiddo.

Share dilution should increase the total value of the company so it shouldn’t harm anything as far as value of the individual shares is concerned (if it does then the company fucked up bad and you shouldn’t be investing in them).

but they were only able to do this by creating a business that enough people agreed was worth a certain amount of money. sure that company may be an enron level scam but if you think the MSFTs of the world are scam ipos then you're sorely mistaken. read the intelligent investor.

see above ^

>The stock market is bullshit
Yeah so is all the money in it. Better call up the CEO of Wall Street and tell him to shut it down, because it's all bullshit and the money is FAKE!

definitely trolling.

looking for someone to buy your link bags? what is wrong with you that you're so aggressive?