European union

>we recovered
meh
And technologically you're still lagging far behind USA and China

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Even our irrelevant president has been twice to China in few years And Xi visited binland last year
What's the big deal?

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Reply to this post if you think the EU should sell Gr**ce to China

Imagine supporting this cabal of neo bolshevik kikes

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this. but we negotiote the price. cant have greeks sell themselves for some baubles and trinkets.

I thought we already sold ourselves to China? Another cheap eu propaganda piece i guess
Seethe more neet eubots

love EU, love euro and love germany

yuropoor union

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EU is doomed

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anglo news are nothing more than propaganda and can be safely dismissed.

it's afraid

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did you know that euro corporations need to employ bribery to stay relevant and afloat?

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China is smart and won't buy them. Maybe some Arab sheik who already owns every supercar in gold would be interested in Greece.

don't forget regulations targeted specifically at non-EU companies

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porsches selling point has always been its brand. that it doesnt offer the best specs for its price is no suprise. but atleast it wont catch fire unlike a tesla.

Does Greece even have a company operating outside it's borders lmao

Yes

>japanese flag
>spams anglo propaganda abotu the eu
hmm...

Greek shipping wipes the floor with any other yuropoor shipping sector but why make it a dick measuring contest?
Schauble had proposed to further tax shipping. Effectively that meant we should dissolve shipping in Greece in favour of German and Dutch shipping. The eu is corrupt and needs to be destroyed

Majority of boats registered in Greece are just some yachts and ferries to Turkey. Nobody wants to ship anything to you people since you have nothing to pay them with

China would never buy it

Literally third world tier.

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Really makes you think, uh?

Vessels can carry foreign flags you know. in any case the eu seethed about Chinese acquisition of Piraeus port because they want to protect the Rotterdam monopoly. China isnt selling only to the Netherlands yet you are the main gateway of Chinese products into Europe. That should change, the European market should become more diverse.

>w-what do you mean selling China part of your infrastructure is not the same as a business trip to sell them products??? We must destroy the eu!!!

>Don't sell to China subhuman
>Sell to us for a lower price subhuman
It's ok to suppose that privatisation is evil now? Because that's what the eu pushes but the forget to mention that you should sell only to them.
Which means that the eu is staunchly protectionist

>selling them products is the same as selling them infrastructure
>Which means that the eu is staunchly protectionist
Lmao

does it makes norway third world tier?

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the eu pushes privatisation and firesales provided it is to the right people. If you deny this you are dishonest
Note that Greece has also sold infrastructure to both you and Germany. Why aren't you complaining about that?

China's Cuck and Fuck (formerly Europe's)

Audi is gonna btfo Tesla

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>the eu pushes privatisation and firesales provided it is to the right people. If you deny this you are dishonest
Not denying that. Doesn't relate to China at all though
>Note that Greece has also sold infrastructure to both you and Germany. Why aren't you complaining about that?
Because we are the ones that bailed you out

>Because we are the ones that bailed you out
xaxaxaxaxa
You bailed German, Dutch and French banks idiot. And some of yours

Nobody cares where we sell our stuff to as long as we can pay back the bailout. Stop it with this persecution complex, you fag.

Yes

Yeah, if the entire thing collapsed Greece would have been just fine lol
Who do you think those banks were lending to?

Just pointing out the hypocrisy shill

i think we already have a deal

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Yes, would have been far better

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feels good to be firstoid then

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fuck germany
fuck france
fuck UE

You collect a lot of graphs but don't even bother to read them lol

Explain it then with your superior intellect

based

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Delusional. It's not about selling stuff here. It's about controlling sea trade by having the largest most advanced fleet. Now that we're upgrading our ports and being close to a solution to build our own ships once again it's gonna be even better.

Unironically the EU and Israel are our biggest allies right now and yet all the mongrels here suck chink/american dick who probably can't even locate us on the map.

I assume that it shows industrial output? You can see how it starts declining in Greece after 2007, so way before the bailout

In 2007 we had a great prime minister. He was planning to do all the reforms needed but then the commies won.

Just like how your souls belong to the Jews?

2007 was the beginning of the 2008 crisis and recession. From then on eu imposed austerity destroyed whatever was left in Greece. Are you denying that the eu demanded and imposed punitive austerity?

>EU
The eu didn't even back Italy when they tried to drill of the shore of Cyprus and Turkey sent warships against them.

that guy is a piddino, he loves to kraut dicks, don't waste your time with him

The first bailout was in 2010 iirc, so you were already declining for years
>From then on eu imposed austerity destroyed whatever was left in Greece. Are you denying that the eu demanded and imposed punitive austerity?
Nope, that's just what happens when you get in debt and waste money on dumb shit
Happens to countries and to people too
>Corruption is a problem in Greece.[1][2] Transparency International stated in 2012 that corruption had played a major role in causing the Greek financial crisis[3] (although the crisis itself was triggered by the global financial crisis of 2007-2008, and Greece's economy had fared well for most of the period up to the aforementioned crisis [4]). Tax evasion was described by Greek politicians as "a national sport"—with up to €30 billion per year going uncollected, according to a 2012 estimate.[5]

Obsessed

So when Germoney goes into a recession and Brits get out of the EU and France experiences another few more terrorist attacks, what happens to the EU?

>doesn't know private ramirez

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do you prefer macron's or merkel's dick?

>pre "bail out" debt at 120%
>post "bail out" debt at 180%
your argument is flimsy

Why are you obsessed with dicks?

it's the best way to calm down you faggots

nothing. and worst case scenario for us is a technical recession due to trade uncertainties. after brexit and after trump leaves office shit is gonna normalize.

total dictatorship and full propaganda mode that blame everything on the brit so we can invade them

The main thing that changed in recent years is that we controlled tax evasion. The austerity only reached such huge levels cause of the tax evasion. There was nothing inherently wrong with most of the reforms (but yes some were completely unecessery).

So? Would you if it was Russia sending warships to Finland or some other country?

>debt goes up during a crisis
Wait really?
Total debt means nothing if it is sustainable, see Japan. Yours wasn't

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I honestly can't tell if this is what you believe or if you're doing a bit

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That's convenient

Can the EU collapse already so we can move on

Yes

of course im just kidding except the "total dictatorship and full propaganda mode that blame everything on the brit so we can invade them." part

Bullshit. Austerity was used to terrorise all member' peoples at a time violent protests were rising all across Europe.
The reforms were mostly pension and wage cuts and better wealth cross references.
>So?
The eu didn't back two of its own members. After that incident the eu looks even more politically weak. A meme organisation like the UN

>German manufacturing decreases for like a trimester, amid Brexit, a slower China and trade tensions
It must be the end times

Greece looks very comfortable to live in

>The eu didn't back two of its own members
With what? Are you in favor of an EU army?

>wasn't
How do you know? Greek debt was owned by euro banks that caused the 2008 global financial meltdown not by other states as it is now after the so called bailout and the temporary salvation of said banks.

this.
we are an export economy and exports are currently stuggling because people are holding off investments and we mainly build machines that build shit. what a fucking surprise surely the german economy is going to collapse.

Everything gonna be alright! Just need to wait for it all to blow over. Whew.

>How do you know?
Because your bond rates shot up, meaning that traders didn't trust your ability to repay them
Same happened to us btw, it's not like Greece was the sacrificial lamb of the EU

Germany didn't. Its enemies did. Germany was one of the last nations to fall to Judaism.

Well NATO and the UN are truly meme organizations. At least the EU has free trade and movement. And I dunno what you expected to happen in Cyprus. You sound really naive. Hopefully people will start to understand that we're alone in this.

They didn't even bother to impose sanctions. The same eu institutions who call upon a vague european brotherhood
and responsibilities willl backstab you when their interests are harmed.

Kek

what a useless chart
it would be much better this way
>Germany
>Eurozone ___excluding Germany___

Temporarily, then the eu and local governments took over and only exacerbated market volatility.
Defaulting on the debt would have been far better. Then it would be up to Germany, Holland and France to bail their own banks out.

They did impose some sanctions. Why are you flat out lying? Does acting like a victim all the time make you feel better?

They have no legal basis to do so, the entire area is contested

>Hopefully people will start to understand that we're alone in this.
That's what i'm arguing about all along?

>Temporarily, then the eu and local governments took over and only exacerbated market volatility.
No, as you can see it sharply went down after the bailout >Defaulting on the debt would have been far better. Then it would be up to Germany, Holland and France to bail their own banks out.
It was your own government that didn't default
Also you have no idea how damaging a default is to a country, especially one that had a bloated public sector like Greece

In case you missed it USA are at a trade war with China. There is no legal basis in international relations

Recessions tend to bring entropy into everything, as a general thing.

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>victim
> arguing for the dissolution of the eu
ok