Nano’s relationship with BitGrail, their main trading platform, was incestuous and dirty from the very beginning. However, after “Bomber”, CEO of BitGrail found out that his exchange had been hacked for 80% of their Nano assets in October 2017, close to 10% of total supply of Nano, the relationship between Nano devs and BitGrail became criminal.
BITGRAIL PROBLEMS KNOWN BY NANO DEV TEAM PRIOR TO BITGRAIL CRASH >Insolvency of BitGrail and missing 10 million nano, discovered and made public by the Nano community [1][2] >Missing transactions on BitGrail, discovered and made public by the Nano community [2][3] >Single transactions replicated multiple times on BitGrail, discovered and made public by the Nano community [4][3][5][6]. >Millions of Nanos moving out from BitGrail, when the exchange was closed for withdrawals, discovered and made public by the Nano community [7]. >Withdrawals on BitGrail blocked for weeks due to alleged ‘maintenance’. >Withdrawals on BitGrail blocked for weeks due to ‘KYC’ excuse [8] [9]. Hundreds of thousands remained unverified [10]. >Withdrawals on BitGrail blocked for weeks, due to alleged ‘pending withdrawals’, which were never processed [11]. >Nano withdrawals on BitGrail blocked for weeks due to node problems. >Customer support ignores tickets - not just for days but for weeks [12] >Bomber increasingly unhinged and psychotic. Insults his customers on social media for asking legitimate questions [12]. Nano community expressed concern to the Nano devs.
>Accounts connected to Nano devs moving around millions of Nano, do arbitrage between exchanges. [13][7][14]. >Accounts connected to Nano devs moving around millions of Nano move assets to safety. Just one of these accounts handled 50million USD [13][7][14][15]. >Insider trading on BitGrail done via accounts connected to Nano Devs. Traded tens of millions of dollars [15]. >Nano dev team used incestuous relationship with Bomber to get instant KYC verification [16], impossible for standard Nano investors. >Ordinary Nano investors accounts blocked from doing arbitrage, moving assets to safety or doing insider trading, unlike Nano dev team. Stuck with coming 80% loss [17]. >Zack Shapiro (Nano dev): Everything under control. Just too much work with KYC. Not insolvent. (statement made 4 days before BitGrail insolvent) [18]. >Zack Shapiro: No reason to worry, BitGrail doing normal KYC, “scams don’t do that” [19] >Zack Shapiro: “Yes, you can [trust BitGrail]. I talk to Bomber every day and he’s a good guy. We’ll get it all sorted next week. Just hang in there” [20] [21] >Zack Shapiro: Confirms BitGrail is a serious business. “Opposite of an exit scam actually” [22] >Zack Shapiro: BitGrail is “Legitimate. Complying with the laws of their contry” [23] >Zack Shapiro: “Funds are safe on Bitgrail…Again, funds are safe” [24][25] >Mica Busch (Nano dev): ‘‘funds are safe, [BitGrails] representative account does not show any suspicious activity’’ [26] >Nano: “Be assured that your funds are safe” [27][28]
>Person who discovered and exposed 50million USD account being connected to Nano Dev team, got later banned from Nano subreddit [13]. >Nano community member who discovered/reported that nearly all nano on BitGrail was missing, was forced to delete initial post titled; ‘10 Million XRB Possibly Missing XRB From BitGrail’ [2] and repost under different headline ‘I need some help with tracing funds’ [1]. >Nano team systematically deleted threads of investors’ concerns and the sharing of new information regarding BitGrail [4]. >Nano dev team confirmed knowing about all BitGrail problems, told investors to relax, and promised a thorough investigation [29][30][28]. ‘Developers are taking care of that’ [31].
Gabriel Kelly
For any newb: OP is a schizo who doesn't know how to draw logical conclusions at all. It's basically his brain having short circuits.
>Nano Dev team claimed to do all they could to investigate and find missing Nano. No update since. Nothing done. [32] >Nano community did all the work, themselves researching/investigating. [33][34][35] [32][41]. >BitGrail victim group representative, Espen Enger met with Nano lawyer Josh Kleiman in Italy [36]. Details of the deal made with the Nano team is not made known to the BitGrail victims. >After meeting between Enger and Kleiman all criticism of Nano Dev team became banned on BitGrail victim discord [37]. >Change in BitGrail victim group management. Protection of Nano Dev team and suddenly non BitGrail victims used as hostile mods on BitGrail victim group discord [38]. >Don’t be surprised if Enger gets millions, and/or cushy job at Nano when all this is over. As a big thank you from the shady Nano team. >Multiple pending and coming lawsuits against Nano foundation and Nano team members. Outside the original BitGrail victim group, now Discord BitGrail/WebCoin Lawsuit [39][40].
Colton Allen
Footnotes to the above Nano -BitGrail Crash (and Nano dev team involvement) –1 of 2
Let's just go through one of your idiotic postings. >Nano Dev team claimed to do all they could to investigate and find missing Nano. No update since. Nothing done. [32] It's known what happened to the Nano. It was sent to Mercatox last october and sold off. >Nano community did all the work, themselves researching/investigating. [33][34][35] [32][41]. Good job Nano community! >BitGrail victim group representative, Espen Enger met with Nano lawyer Josh Kleiman in Italy [36]. Details of the deal made with the Nano team is not made known to the BitGrail victims. OP makes up that there was a "deal". Schizo. >After meeting between Enger and Kleiman all criticism of Nano Dev team became banned on BitGrail victim discord [37]. Made up lie. Schizo. After several months of OP spamming the chat with schizo shit, it was finally closed. >Change in BitGrail victim group management. Protection of Nano Dev team and suddenly non BitGrail victims used as hostile mods on BitGrail victim group discord [38]. After several months, everyone got tired of telling people that there won't be a fork. It's not hostile, it's "moving on", something OP doesn't understand. Schizo. >Don’t be surprised if Enger gets millions, and/or cushy job at Nano when all this is over. As a big thank you from the shady Nano team. OP makes this up. Schizo. >Multiple pending and coming lawsuits against Nano foundation and Nano team members. Outside the original BitGrail victim group, now Discord BitGrail/WebCoin Lawsuit [39][40]. That's their right. Anyone can sue whoever they want.
Nano is Bitconnect 2.0 Thank you for proving my point.
Christian Nelson
>Thank you for proving my point. Translation: The voices in his head tell OP that his point was proven.
Xavier Price
Op kept his nano on an exchange and thinks crypto devs are some sort of corporation. Yikes.
Lincoln Ramirez
You again. How many Nano did you lose on BItgrail?
Caleb Evans
On Discord he would claim that he lost millions but has millions more. Because, you know, it's totally sane to send millions to an italian garage exchange, that's what millionaires do.
Cooper Williams
Strawman fallacies, ad hominem, and rejecting of documented facts.
Luis Cruz
Schizo blurting. I bet you slur your speech irl.
Robert Evans
I am masturbating to all this anti-nano FUCKING FUD!! This is BETTER THAN PORN, while I look at ALL MY NANNIES!!!!
Jacob Gray
So how much did you really lose? Is mommy angry with you? Why didn't you use a wallet?
Aaron Turner
Like do you see a single strawman in the post where OP claims I put a strawman? He just blurts out words whose meaning he doesn't know. He used to spam discord like this 12 hours a day (like a true millionaire) and threatened to kill people. At that time the Lawsuit Discord had been in existence for months, so that's why they finally closed that chat. Now the Lawsuit Discord didn't need OP either, since he is a minor and can't engage in a lawsuit, so instead he spams shit here every day now. Protip OP: If you want to be taken more serious, don't post about genociding jews on Discord.
And maybe get out of your basement some time.
Dylan Walker
More lies; I am not on discord I never trusted Bomber or Zack Shapiro I didn't loose anything on BitGrail It is the principle, I saw the way the devs behaved and how the Nano community attacked the victims and I was/am disgusted by it.
Oliver Flores
>I am not on discord How do you know about the discord channel then? :)))))))))))))) You little shit :)))))) I know who you are :))))))))
Hudson Reyes
Hahaha, yeah, you sure sound like someone who doesn't think of himself as a victim at all.
It's your own fault for not using a wallet you dumb fuck.
Nah not going to but he should really eat his pills before becoming the next school shooter.
Brayden Bell
Let's FIND the fucking asshole and MAKE HIM PAY! I am so tired of looking at his shit EVERY FUCKING DAY!!!!! NANO DEVS ARE MAGNIFICENT AND DID NOTHING WRONG!!!
(((Zack Shapiro))) (((Josh Kleiman))) holders can only blame themselves. Unless you're a Jew, never trust a Jew, how hard it is to understand? Sure, there are non-Jewish scammers too - but they are an exception, not the rule. Average Italian is honest. Average Jew is going to scam a goy if given the chance.
thank you for your help calling out the Nano SCAM, op
Dont worry about the scamfags ITT, hopefully they'll still be holding the bag when Nano collapses
Connor Robinson
Are you FUCKING INSANE?? YOU sound like fucking OP!! SPREADING CONFUSION!!!
Jackson Lewis
I was in bitconnect and lost a ton of money, BUT NANO IS NOT BITCONNECT! After that I learned technical analysis and the how technical nano is and much more than rest of cryptos and how magnificent the community is! YOU UNDERSTAND NOTHING OF THAT AND YOUR FUD IS JUST A FUCKING BIG BUY SIGNAL!!!
I was in bitconnect and lost a ton of money, BUT NANO IS NOT BITCONNECT! After that I learned technical analysis and the how technical nano is and much more than rest of cryptos and how magnificent the community is! YOU UNDERSTAND NOTHING OF THAT AND YOUR FUD IS JUST A FUCKING BIG BUY SIGNAL!!!
posting the same thread everyday kek let me guess you bought at 25+ and lost it all on spaghettigrail
Elijah Williams
All his 50 Nanos probably, yeah.
Jordan Walker
I'm 100% all in Nano since im not a pajeet/chink and have an IQ over 100 but gotta say OP when you posted pics of jews involved in the project i lmao'd
Owen Johnson
i really don't care about this bad history.
look at BTC and how many hacks and shit happened in the past. Mtgoxing, discusing shit, blockstream jewening. the tech was good and people kept buying and now we are here.
the same will happen to nano.
it had some bad actors but that does'nt mean it is bad tech. I've used over 15 cryptocurrencies and nano was by far the easiest and fastest.
I even send my most retarded friends a nano and manage to introduce them to crypto with it.
even my super most retarded tech illeterate friend has one nano now, and I didnt' even send him that nano, it was my other slightly less stupid friend who managed to get him to download a wallet and he sent him a nano.
that's all proof I need ( together with my own exp ) that nano will be huge.
FAGGOT thats what u get for leaving money in shady exchanges tf wrong with u!! I really hope that some of you bitgrail FUDDERS really DID commit suicide to weed out all you weak stupid people!! NANO DOESNT NEED U!! all u do is harming the price of nano and attacking the MAGNIFICENT NANO DEV TEAM!! FUCK U BITGRAIL BITCHES!!! STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM NANO!!
Please keep crying this pasta fud is getting funnier every day as nano leaves you and your shit coins in the dust. Actually being too retarded to spot a 95% dip , not buy it and then get autistically mad to the point of writing my angry projections onto the internet. LMFAO KEEP MISSING OUT BIZ LOL
FUCKING BULLSHIT, ITS ALL FUCKING BULLSHIT!! Reason why we dont refute you is that we dont care! THATS THE ONLY REASON!!!
Grayson Richardson
Do you have a name, city, street or something? Post everything you have, so we know who is behind all this fucking FUD against nano!! FUCK THIS MOTHER FUCKER!!
Is this the frog guy, claiming to be whale from Venezuela? Are you sure it is him? Many other supported the idea to sue devs, before we intervened and got the control over the situation. Are you sure he is a minor, he sounded very mature, - language etc, the rest he was a whiny bitch and wanted to attack our magnificent devs and didnt fucking understand that they are on our side against bomber. He should be fucking careful.
Lucas Lee
I believe he is one of those losers from bitgrail that now suddenly hate nano and are super jealous of our new magnificent community without the bitter losers and they missed out on all our gains. sucks to be them. glad we kicked them out, they just dragged nano down.
Pls sell. I bought Rai initially at $.60 and I’m still kicking myself that I missed the boat on sub $1 NANO.
Jacob Hill
Why would anyone listen to a brainlet who pretends to be an authority on things he's completely ignorant about in order to push an agenda? Go back to your hole fucking bitgrail bitches. Nano doesn't need u.
Thanks OP, strong buy signal. Just bought another 100K. Sucks to be a bitgrail loser as yoiu, while I am stacking up my heavy bags ready for the gains and I am comfy af!! The rest of the community can't fucking stand you bitgrail whiners. Hope all of you commit suicide so we can finally have some peace in the community and focus on our future massive gains.
imagine being this autisticly butt flustered about an imaginary internet coin.
William Morgan
I kind of understand all your FUD against Nano... you still missing out on gains huh? It's too bad keep buying your eth and xmr, you will surely make it someday. If you lost money on bitgrail your a loser having crypto on exchange and should kill yourself like the rest so we can have an upbeat and positive community. do us all a favour FUCKING FUDDERS!!
Sooooon, we know who you are.......enjoy looking over the shoulder the rest of your life......Okay, mods, JUST KIDDING!! Have a beer and a laugh, okay, we in the Nano community love to have this kind of banter, especially with the bitgrail people :)))))))))
