Nano’s relationship with BitGrail, their main trading platform, was incestuous and dirty from the very beginning. However, after “Bomber”, CEO of BitGrail found out that his exchange had been hacked for 80% of their Nano assets in October 2017, close to 10% of total supply of Nano, the relationship between Nano devs and BitGrail became criminal.
BITGRAIL PROBLEMS KNOWN BY NANO DEV TEAM PRIOR TO BITGRAIL CRASH >Insolvency of BitGrail and missing 10 million nano, discovered and made public by the Nano community [1][2] >Missing transactions on BitGrail, discovered and made public by the Nano community [2][3] >Single transactions replicated multiple times on BitGrail, discovered and made public by the Nano community [4][3][5][6]. >Millions of Nanos moving out from BitGrail, when the exchange was closed for withdrawals, discovered and made public by the Nano community [7]. >Withdrawals on BitGrail blocked for weeks due to alleged “maintenance”. >Withdrawals on BitGrail blocked for weeks due to “KYC” excuse [8] [9]. Hundreds of thousands remained unverified [10]. >Withdrawals on BitGrail blocked for weeks, due to alleged “pending withdrawals”, which were never processed [11]. >Nano withdrawals on BitGrail blocked for weeks due to node problems. >Customer support ignores tickets - not just for days but for weeks [12] >Bomber increasingly unhinged and psychotic. Insults his customers on social media for asking legitimate questions [12]. Nano community expressed concern to the Nano devs.
NANO DEVS ILLEGAL & UNETHICAL ACTIVITIES PRE-BITGRAIL CRASH (1 of 2) >Accounts connected to Nano devs moving around millions of Nano, do arbitrage between exchanges. [13][7][14]. >Accounts connected to Nano devs moving around millions of Nano move assets to safety. Just one of these accounts handled 50million USD [13][7][14][15]. >Insider trading on BitGrail done via accounts connected to Nano Devs. Traded tens of millions of dollars [15]. >Nano dev team used incestuous relationship with Bomber to get instant KYC verification [16], impossible for standard Nano investors. >Ordinary Nano investors accounts blocked from doing arbitrage, moving assets to safety or doing insider trading, unlike Nano dev team. Stuck with coming 80% loss [17]. >Zack Shapiro (Nano dev): Everything under control. Just too much work with KYC. Not insolvent. (statement made 4 days before BitGrail insolvent) [18]. >Zack Shapiro: No reason to worry, BitGrail doing normal KYC, “scams don’t do that” [19] >Zack Shapiro: “Yes, you can [trust BitGrail]. I talk to Bomber every day and he’s a good guy. We’ll get it all sorted next week. Just hang in there” [20] [21] >Zack Shapiro: Confirms BitGrail is a serious business. “Opposite of an exit scam actually” [22] >Zack Shapiro: BitGrail is “Legitimate. Complying with the laws of their contry” [23] >Zack Shapiro: “Funds are safe on Bitgrail…Again, funds are safe” [24][25] >Mica Busch (Nano dev): “funds are safe, [BitGrails] representative account does not show any suspicious activity” [26] >Nano: “Be assured that your funds are safe” [27][28]
>Person who discovered and exposed 50million USD account being connected to Nano Dev team, got later banned from Nano subreddit [13]. >Nano community member who discovered/reported that nearly all nano on BitGrail was missing, was forced to delete initial post titled; “10 Million XRB Possibly Missing XRB From BitGrail” [2] and repost under a unrelated, obscure and misleading headline; “I need some help with tracing funds” [1].. >Nano team systematically deleted threads of investors’ concerns and the sharing of new information regarding BitGrail [4]. >Nano dev team confirmed knowing about all BitGrail problems, told investors to relax, and promised a thorough investigation [29][30][28]. “Developers are taking care of that” [31].
>Nano Dev team claimed to do all they could to investigate and find missing Nano. No update since. Nothing done. [32] >Nano community did all the work, themselves researching/investigating. [33][34][35] [32][41]. >BitGrail victim group representative, Espen Enger met with Nano lawyer Josh Kleiman in Italy [36]. Details of the deal made with the Nano team is not made known to the BitGrail victims. >After meeting between Enger and Kleiman all criticism of Nano Dev team became banned on BitGrail victim discord [37]. >Change in BitGrail victim group management. Protection of Nano Dev team and suddenly non BitGrail victims used as hostile mods on BitGrail victim group discord [38]. >Don’t be surprised if Enger gets millions, and/or cushy job at Nano when all this is over. As a big thank you from the shady Nano team. >Multiple pending and coming lawsuits against Nano foundation and Nano team members from various sources [39][40].
Matthew Adams
Footnotes to the above Nano -BitGrail Crash (and Nano dev team involvement) –1 of 2
Nano bag holders and potential investors might want to have a look at this thread:
John Hall
And this one:
Hunter Williams
Are the devs actually being subpoenaed and dragged to court? I’d love for this to be proven a literal fraud. Sorry if it’s covered but this info dump is a bit dense.
Noah Hill
As it says in post, there are multiple pending lawsuits against Nano foundation and Nano team members. An example of the development of one of them, can be found here; pacermonitor.com/public/case/24157263/Brola_v_Nano_et_al
Lucas Jenkins
Bullish I remember the oldfags that got burned by gox, they posted the same shit for Bitcoin. Bitgrail is over user, the 4 million Nano will come back into play in a couple years when they are worth much more.
You are comparing Nano to Bitcoin, are you on drugs? Was Bitcoin discovered and pushed hard by Italian scammers. Is Bitcoin an utterly flawed coin with garbage tech? Was the Bitcoin devs heavily involved with gox etc, etc. You are either delusional or lying through your teeth. Typical nano death cult psycho.
Michael Cooper
All the FUD against Nano lately is easy to understand, like they all want cheap Nanos lul
I have given up on Jow Forums fully to shill/FUD me some coins. I only visit this place for the crypto memes now. It's impossible to say what this OPs intention is. He might very well be FUDing Nano while being 100% balls deep in it. This is just how Jow Forums works, chaotically.
Nicholas Cox
What do you mean?? Are you a fucking FUDDER againts nano??
Fuck this FUD! No need to read anything of it!! I just saw it and understood right away that Nano is ready to moon, so I bought 100K nannis RIGHT AWAY!! COMFY AS FUCK!!
FAGGOT thats what u get for leaving money in shady exchanges tf wrong with u!! I really hope that some of you bitgrail FUDDERS really DID commit suicide to weed out all you weak stupid people!! NANO DOESNT NEED U!! all u do is harming the price of nano and attacking the MAGNIFICENT NANO DEV TEAM!! FUCK U BITGRAIL BITCHES!!! STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM NANO!!
TO ANYONE HATING NANO AND SPREADING FUD: Sorry I don't jerk off to screen caps of rando crypto threads. Believe whatever the fuck you want , when nano turns bullish again I am buying. This shit is the best in crypto right now and the concept of crypto only being a currency is something NORMIES can wrap their head around it. SAY NO TO FUD!! FUCK FUD!!
I'm usually skeptical of posts like this, but no one is giving any rebuttal to the serious accusations, only shitposting shitty pro-NANO memes. Holy fuck, these accusations are true.
Ryan Robinson
I could answer ALL UR FUD if I wanted to, but I DONT have any time to FUCKING WASTE ON U FUDDERS!!! I HAVE BETTER THINGS 2 DO!! Peace out to all fellow Naniites.
I kind of understand all your FUD against Nano... you still missing out on gains huh? It's too bad keep buying your eth and xmr, you will surely make it someday. If you lost money on bitgrail your a loser having crypto on exchange and should kill yourself like the rest so we can have an upbeat and positive community. do us all a favour FUCKING FUDDERS!!
Oh look this stupid fud again just bought 133 more Nano(133 is equal to 21 BTC vs supply)
Jacob Cox
Why would anyone listen to a brainlet who pretends to be an authority on things he's completely ignorant about in order to push an agenda? Go back to your hole fucking bitgrail bitches. Nano doesn't need u.
