What happened to skycoin?

This picture would have basically convinced me that this is a scam if I didnt knew that already.

Well, that's just because you're a bit small minded for someone that considers themselves open minded.

The keen observer notes:
>cost-effective materials
>widely available parts
>~7-15km directional range
>search and connect functionality
>high thoroughput
>modular
>able to be built in a DIY capacity

semi correct answer
pearl clutchers didn't like that the skycoin guys didn't capitulate and shrugged off shit outside of their control
they got back to work on the project, which is all that matters

So you can read all these specs by just looking at a ugly piece of plastic?

this
we know you are a pajeet

also. its just a shitty directed antena that is able to make only 1 connection to 1 device since any other device is almost surely in another place. it also does not provide that range unless you are high up since the earth is not flat. and if it was not directed it would provide no more range than pic related. You are basically scaming people int pic related with a dish for a lot of money.

FUCK ASIA

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Sure, that size of dish is standard for that range.

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Nah, it pulls more power than a usb port can supply. Do you even understand radio?

ubnt.com/airfiber/airfiberx-antenna/

Loosely based on Unifi's tech.

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>can be changed or rolled back at any time because there is no consensus
fucking moron
>literally not true among any top protocol
fucking moron
>"updates" are open source VPN copy and paste and PDF updates, no real work on the project
fucking moron
>supposed hit to the ribs from a supposed kidnapping
fucking moron
>dumped at ATH and no real work has been done since then
fucking moron
>where do I get my free hardware? oh I can't that's right
fucking moron
>running it through the closed loop single party system is decentralized
fucking moron

This shit is for low IQ people and has nothing to do with crypto, there is no consensus or way to stop the single node from doing whatever it wants and there is no plan to change that.
>there is
No, it gets moved to an anonymous board, which again you can't verify and probably still synth acting alone but with 3 keys now

You seem upset.

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Uh oh got another gaboolie gook over here watch out boys

>shit outside of their control
This wasn't a third party theft or hack. These were people employed by Skycoin that were given coins by Skycoin. Considering that distribution will always remain a central point of failure, the way that they handled the fraud is extremely concerning.

>they should have figured out that they were conducting fake/modified sales

Yeah, I'm sure tech would have fixed that.

Skycoin is hated on so religiously by so much of the crypto community. There must be something to this shit.

SKY received a lot of FUD here because it literally blows everything out of the water. It's the ONLY project producing actual tech and delivering actual services. It's developing the broadest blockchain platform in the world and has attracted huge amounts of investors, governments even. When Skyfibre gets released and the community mesh networks start spreading, you just watch... SKY will be top-5 somewhere around 2022.

Because it literally blows 99% of all the shitcoins held here out of the water.

I kind of understand why they fear it so much, it threatens several of the top twenty projects.

Cause its a blatant scam. Unlike link where there is a chance it is not a scam, this one reeks of scam. The simple fact you cannot send traffic across the ocean with those shitty antenna is enough to realize.

>If you can't do everything at once it can't possibly succeed

Reading through some of the fud, i can see it consists of crazy claims, claims based on ignorance about the underlying technology, and claims that could be made about any project in crypto including Bitcoin or Ethereum.

Yes they should have. The lack of oversight was shame and hopefully they have learned from it.

whats the incentive to use the network if you cant even send an email from the US to Europe? its never gonna gain adoption

This is what i'm talking about, of course you can send an email, thats what an exit gateway is for.

hahaha, oracles don't even exist, link does not actually solve that problem

You just use regular internet bridges, like it currently works.
The point is to bypass the malicious ISPs a step at a time.
To be honest I'm very skeptical that skycoin will actually achieve a considerable size meshnet, BUT technologically I don't see any other way to resist future censorship and it's the only project at least trying to do something about it.

Jesus christ... i seriously hope you're just trolling at this point. Fucking retard.

you need $$$ to use those massive transatlantic ocean cables. Loads of $$$. Who's gonna pay for it?

why dont you explain the fault in my reasoning skyfag? Got no arguments?

There's better stuff on the horizon. The equivalent of bittorrent with thousands of low power antennas bouncing off the atmosphere.

whiteboard.ping.se/SDR/WSPR

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They cost about $5k usd per month minimum. That's not much for a collective of node operators.

yeah you're just gonna replace the MASSIVE traffic running through also MASSIVE cables with your shitty antenna. Not to mention latency. Stay deluded

5k usd per month, to run how much traffic through them? enough for 100 users at most?

You're too far ahead with the problem solving.
By the time that actually becomes relevant it means that it has already become successful in small scale. Then you can either gather the money collectively or use some other technology.

Combination of the two.

Skywire will be able to cache files. That means a dumb cat video only needs to be transferred over the ocean once, either by radio or cable. As opposed to sending requests to a server in CA over and over for each person that wants to view, the meshnet simply requests the file from the closest available Skyminers.

thats the point it will never become succesful in small scale if you cant even connect to a website on the other part of the globe

>This question has been answered before as i recall. "The exit nodes will be in colo centers, and since so much traffic will go through them the operators will be well compensated, and then they will be able to rent access to the cables once its economically feasible." or something.
But anyway, this kind of fud is really farfetched. reaching into future developments to attack the fundamentals of the project, I thought you were trying to say it was a blatant/obvious scam? I see alot of those in this market. Where are you in those threads?

>Skywire will be able to cache files
>only needs to be transferred over the ocean once
and where are you gonna store the peta and petas of data? in your massive data centers? what problem are you solving again?

>colo centers
>we're gonna be so different from current ISPs

100gbps London to New York.

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You're missing the point, you can still use regular internet, you just bypass a bunch of ISPs

and how does that avoid censorship? they can still see all traffic and censor what they dislike. You depend on the corps infrastructure and you must comply to current telecommunications laws.

Skyminers will be able to attach storage.

Drives are cheap as hell, and much cheaper to operate on private property rather than in a zoned, regulated, and staffed corporate datacenter. Skywire already has the cost advantage to providing storage and cache services.

you bypass a bunch of ISPs, by using the new distributed ISP that somehow will compete? while being much slower and expensive? dont think so

If there's no ISP, how do you censor it?

They can see what protocols are used, but they can't see the actual content of encrypted traffic.

Anyone truly paranoid should opt to route their traffic over LPLR antennas or through strict wifi meshnet connection.

a bunch of raspberries will store the massive amount of data that needs to be 'cached'? right
>regulated, and staffed corporate datacenter
those exist for a reason, they have specialized hardware. Raspberries are not specialized hardware.
>Skywire already has the cost advantage to providing storage and cache services.
raspberries? lmfao. Deluded

Without IT staff, support staff, property, building expenses, red tape, and infrastructure laws, privately owned networking equipment will provide better service for the price.

People will fucking jump at the opportunity to buy $20/mo internet, or metered service.

the corps that own current internet infrastructure can do as they wish with the data that passes through it
>encrypted traffic
and somehow this will be faster ? no it will be slow as fuck and no one will use it

>much slower and expensive?
You don't know that yet
And even if it's true, people would still prefer it if it's uncensored and your personal data won't be used to make money.

>privately owned networking equipment
again, a bunch of raspberries stand no chance against specialized hardware. Its not cost effective stop deluding yourselves

>Something different from current ISPs is going to be "so different"
You just changed the subject. Cheap scammy tactics claiming to care about investors of this "known scam". And you are just one of many who have been at this for months. All the while actual scams all over the place get a free pass. Whatever project is paying you is dying in this bear market and instead of development, they pay pajeets like you to on Skycoin. The absolute state of this market.

Single board computers like Raspberry Pi's are simply cheap options.

5,000 people with eight SBCs in each home will provide more compute, storage and bandwidth than a midsized ISP.

people dont give a fuck about muh censorship they want fast reliable connections which current ISPs already deliver. If they truly care about freedom and censorship they use Freenet. Case closed

Buy "specialized" hardware then. The platform is hardware agnostic.

Whatever devices provide the best service to the network will be compensated the best. At some point ISPs will just convert their equipment to be Skywire hardware.

Technology advances and gets cheaper. Maybe it won't run on raspberries, but claiming that affordable hardware won't be able to run considerable bandwidth is overly pessimistic.

no one is paying me i fud this crap out of boredom. I never bought a single skycrap and never will. This is the classic deluded bagholder tactic, someone fuds his project, must mean he wants to buy low or is a paid shill. KYS

Tell me how happy USA customers are with Comcast monopoly and how happy Chinese people are that they can't access Google or Facebook.

SOCKS5 connections aren't slow.

sure, and they will charge 10x more for their services. But hey at least its censorship resistant lmao
the end result will be what we already have, ISPs. Only you claim you wont censor, even though you gotta comply to every telecommunication law out there or go to jail

Because it has been adressed a thousand times before and you're just here to FUD.

>still

they are unhappy, but what can you do about it. The law is the law. The moment you try to break it, you gonna have trouble. No amount of skyminers and antenna can bypass these laws

Which is why getting paid for having internet hardware on top of your house is the real draw. People will either make money or be able to have ultra-cheap internet access.

This FUD is so stupid. When people start losing money because of censorship, they are either loser scum who don't matter to begin with or will fucking care.

>No amount of skyminers and antenna can bypass these laws
That's what they're literally trying to do

its never been settled, you refuse to think this rationally cause you are invested and most likely bagholding from the massive drop. I am not therefore i see clearly

We can tell, you're not putting much effort in to it.

>no staff to pay, no facilities to operate, all done on owned property

I've already gone over this a few times in this thread. ESL?

Independent operators communicating with others aren't ISPs. They can't be regulated as such.

You and your teammates all fud this out of boredom because you are fucking losers and you think I should kms.

your hardware cant compete brainlet! Get it through your skull! Your hardware is general purpose and it fucking sucks! Its made for toying around not backing serious networks.

By the sounds of your project, it will be 10x more expensive to use it than current ISPs.

Then you go to jail cause you either comply to laws or get busted. They werent put in place just for show, they fucking mean it.

they can when you are using those ocean cables. Its called the telecommunications Act

Build me a box with better i/o for $500. You can't.
>eight 64bit processors
>16gb ram
>128gb storage + attachable raid storage
>800mbps up/down

Keep in mind that the goal here is to get these in and on as many households as possible.

yeah you should kys

>Then you go to jail cause you either comply to laws or get busted. They werent put in place just for show, they fucking mean it.
So now you're pushing the scenario that the government will raid attics to take down antennas?
>your hardware cant compete
The raspberries are only used for the testnet to be stable and predictable, you can use whatever hardware you want. Bitcoin miners are specialized hardware, anyone can afford them.

you forgot the thot posting skyfag, we already went through this. $500 for that lmao, wasnt it $600? Now its $500, funny. You are out of touch with current hardware capabilities

>only using cables in the US
Easy to reroute to other countries to use their cables.

Also, cables aren't the only answer. LRLP antennas, like I said.

telecommunications laws brainlet, read about them.
>The raspberries are only used for the testnet to be stable and predictable, you can use whatever hardware you want.
oh so you'll start buying from cisco that specialized hardware, while somehow remaining competitive against current ISPs. Right

That's if you don't buy a fancy aluminum frame to keep it in. Also, the price on Orange Pi Primes went down :)

we use cables for a reason, antenna suck for long distances. You used to say 'we will build our own cables' now its all about the antenna? deluded

>Brings up censorship
>FUDs out of boredom
I was commenting on the general economic consequences of censorship, not the service rates, which you have no idea about either. Maybe you aren't paid by shitcoins, you're paid by ISPs..

I knew someone appreciated those. Here you go buddy.

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enjoy bagholding both the coin and the shit berries

Both, honestly, whatever the free market demands.

That's the beauty of Skywire, there's so many options and possibilities.
>buy submarine cables
>rent submarine cables
>build submarine cables
>build low power long range antennas (thousands)
>use high power long range antennas to bridge bodies of water less than ~250km wide

There's so much that can be done with lower operational costs than the current socialized internet.

It's any computer that can run golang, really. I'm going to convert the ~30 computers that I manage at work to be skyminers on the side.

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yeah thousands will surely rush to invest in that before you can even send a data packet across the sea. You are poorfags and cant fathom to compete against tech giants. You are out of touch with reality

Dude even sky itself is building custom network hardware, it's not Sci fi

>Skycoin paid shill coin obvious scam
>Not paid FUD sir, out of boredom.
>Antennas suck, opis suck, ISPs good, ISPs suck, ISPs good, ISPs suck.

its pointless to discuss this further. Time will show. In 2020-22 the project will be dead and you will remember me faggots

You think people would ignore the project if it only achieved a meshnet on a continental level?

That's mid-stage adoption anyway, we have like five years until that point.

>just give up! submit to Google!
lol, okay silicon valley wageslave, did you bring your dog to work today?

>questioning the fundamentals of your shit project
>its paid FUD!!
>(You)

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